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Thread Number: 28768
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
Why are Oreck's so rubbish? |
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| Post# 321215 , Reply# 1 4/9/2015 at 21:57 (3,294 days old) by vacuumlover (UK) | ||
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Well a hoover turbopower says it all lol | ||
| Post# 321219 , Reply# 3 4/9/2015 at 23:31 (3,293 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.) | ||
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| Post# 321226 , Reply# 4 4/10/2015 at 04:10 (3,293 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
 The suction on the Oreck is pretty poor. The fan is MUCH smaller than on a lot of other dirty fan cleaners and not very well made either, so it didn't generate much airflow to begin with. Couple that with the narrow air path from the cleanerhead to the bag AND the cheap, screaming motor used in a lot of Orecks, it doesn't make for a fantastic vacuum.
However, they have a pretty impressive brushroll in them which does a lot of the work, so they are really good for commercial, low pile carpets. | ||
| Post# 321227 , Reply# 5 4/10/2015 at 04:14 (3,293 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Its design has been copied many times as well. It's so funny that you should say that, because Oreck wasn't an original design to begin with. David Oreck just bought an unwanted patent from Whirlpool and started manufacturing it. We had Oreck uprights in the early 70's branded "McDonald Electric", which was the original version of that design. It wasn't a big seller and was discontinued after a short run, which is when David O picked up the patent.
Always amuses me when he claims to be the "inventer of the Oreck vacuum". Such a big fat lie. | ||
| Post# 321234 , Reply# 6 4/10/2015 at 06:00 (3,293 days old) by HVRVACLVR (Altoona PA) | ||
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| Post# 321237 , Reply# 7 4/10/2015 at 07:06 (3,293 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
The main difference between Hoover, Kirby and Oreck is that Oreck uprights are lightweight and use a soft bag much like the Hoover Junior "proper" design, even including the last U1104.
The wattage is also fairly low. Around 350 watts or 400 watts AND no beater bars or agitators on the brush roll unlike Hoover. Everything on the Oreck design is made to be lightweight, which is why very little sound insulation is built in, making the motors very noisy. The only helpful additions to the design in my experience is the helping hand handle, a good brush roll and the long cord. A lot of owners over the years have had replacement fans, to the point that most buy the metal fans from the red commercial model, or eventually seek out the red commercial upright version because of the metal fan. Not as fragile then when picking up harder dust. I know of plenty elderly people that refuse to give up their Orecks. Clearly there is still a market to have an "upright only" design that the Hoover Junior design left behind. The Vax VCU02 I have is very much like an Oreck but the motor inside has so much better protection. I don't mind the noise from the Vax when it picks up dirt reasonably well. | ||
| Post# 321239 , Reply# 8 4/10/2015 at 07:31 (3,293 days old) by Loganvac (Kennett Square, Pennsylvania) | ||
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| Post# 321244 , Reply# 10 4/10/2015 at 08:25 (3,293 days old) by HVRVACLVR (Altoona PA) | ||
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My girlfriend uses an Oreck to clean the carpet on her front porch. I always have to unclog the fan, then again she's picking up leaves and stuff like that. I tell her all the time that if she won't use a shop vac to use her Dyson DC24 out there. But she refuses to.
I did use it at my house after I fixed it the one time and it does groom the carpet very well, and it picks up the dog and cat hair in one pass, but to me it doesn't seem like it deep cleans very well. | ||
| Post# 321249 , Reply# 11 4/10/2015 at 10:23 (3,293 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Like Kirby though, the American Orecks are too over priced. For the same cost of an Oreck in the UK brand new and direct from Oreck, you may as well buy a Miele S7 or SEBO upright. For the tech that's being offered, the Oreck products should be far cheaper to buy.
In the U.S the Magnesium model is $399 or $599 for the SP edition which is just about £272 or £408 currency wise. Yet the UK market Magnesium model is £299. For a rather updated but simple non-hose lightweight upright only, that's a steep price. No wonder buyers flock to auction sites. Cost prices for little used Orecks are mega cheap, most than 50% less.
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| Post# 321250 , Reply# 12 4/10/2015 at 10:48 (3,293 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 321262 , Reply# 13 4/10/2015 at 12:13 (3,293 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Kl Thanks guys | ||
| Post# 321266 , Reply# 14 4/10/2015 at 13:17 (3,293 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 321276 , Reply# 15 4/10/2015 at 15:44 (3,293 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Jason, just curious but were you Jasongreen98 on YouTube? You also got a DC25 Animal new for youer birthday or somethng and a DC14 All floors for your birthday? | ||
| Post# 321281 , Reply# 16 4/10/2015 at 15:57 (3,293 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 321284 , Reply# 17 4/10/2015 at 16:07 (3,293 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
My girlfriend used to have an Oreck until she borrowed my Kirby Heritage Turbo HD1. The next thing I knew, the Oreck was nowhere to be found. She said she pitched it in the dumpster. Considering how it performed—or rather didn't perform—compared to the Kirby, I can't much blame her. Of course, it'll now be that much harder for me to ever get that Kirby back.
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| Post# 321299 , Reply# 18 4/10/2015 at 17:11 (3,293 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 321306 , Reply# 19 4/10/2015 at 18:25 (3,293 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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In terms of quality the Turbopowers were Awful but in terms of cleaning the Turbopowers cleaned far better and the hose suction was far stronger than that of an 80s junior that said the 80s Juniors were budget.
Don't let me confuse you between the 70's Juniors and the 80s Juniors, The 70s's Juniors have superior agitation, better suction, purred across the carpet and had a better tool set up with stronger hose suction than that of an 80's Junior. Everything about the 80's Juniors are just shocking, they are very average performers and were very cheap and tacky. | ||
| Post# 321341 , Reply# 21 4/11/2015 at 04:23 (3,292 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Lol, I agree Tolivac, I would rather get a Dyson DC59 which cleans better and can do a lot more things with a 2 year guarantee! :D | ||
| Post# 321343 , Reply# 22 4/11/2015 at 04:34 (3,292 days old) by Vintagevaclover (Athens, GA) | ||
They're good for what they are 
Which is basically a powerhead with a bag on it . They have no height adjustment and they basically just wipe the surface of the carpet, they get the job done and they're good for what they are. They dont have attachments and they wont give you a true deep clean. Very light and good for quick pickups tho. The vintage ones are pretty cool too!
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| Post# 321346 , Reply# 23 4/11/2015 at 05:49 (3,292 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
My simple mind looks at an Oreck as an incredibly over priced "vacuum" cleaner. Is it a carpet sweeper with a large bag? It generates little suction to do any deep cleaning and obviously no above floor cleaning. This is fine but it really doesn't justify its price. They should be at least a 3rd of what they actually are
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| Post# 321348 , Reply# 24 4/11/2015 at 06:09 (3,292 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The U1104 and U1036 carries the same format as the Powerplus vacuums, Alex. Very thinly disguised similar metal based models with a plastic hood on top. Exterior touch parts were replaced with plastic as it was cheaper and also showed current owners updated looks. Purely cosmetic in some cases.
Our family had more metal 1970's Juniors when I was much younger. However, we always kept a separate cylinder vac nearby. Hose set ups on the Junior in general were only supplied to make money for Hoover, rather than taking the place of a much more powerful canister unit - made all the more obvious with the later plastic bodied U1104 series. Despite what you say, the U1036 & U1104s are forever popping up on EBay. They do appear to last a long time and that's original ones, NOT refurbs. I have not mentioned anything about uprights having hoses or tools. The Oreck uprights are testament to that. They have never been made with tools or hoses, and as Chris rightly notes, the new models don't come with the "free" canister any more. Other members have already noted how basic the Oreck is. There's still a market for upright only vacs without hoses or tools, but rather a small and diminishing market. Frankly I'm surprised Dirt Devil don't sell the Broomy upright any more. I know many would buy them in the UK if they were made available. | ||
| Post# 321354 , Reply# 25 4/11/2015 at 07:37 (3,292 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
ya know...
I actually kinda like orecks, they are very light and easy to use, and i think they often perform better than what people give them credit for. Especially the "newer" style such as the 21, gold, etc. While they cannot compare to a direct air or tandem air machine with larger fans, i do feel they can at times match or out perform bypass machines.
To compare the performance of the vacuums i have i bought hot pink sand, distributed an amount on a rug, worked the sand in, and then counted the number of strokes it took to remove all visible sand. *note 1 stroke = 1 pass forward + backward* The Xl-21 took 3, the XL ultra i no longer have had mixed results so i averaged it's score and gave it a 4, the xl-21 scored better than the Miele S7, Miele Silver moon, and Rainbow E-2 (black) all of which scored a 4. the 21 matched the score of the lindhaus Healthcare Pro, Filter Magic w/Vibragroomer III, Patriot w/ lindhaus PB-14, and Royal power team. | ||
| Post# 321365 , Reply# 26 4/11/2015 at 10:51 (3,292 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
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I never did any scientific comparisons with my girlfriend's Oreck, which is now rotting in a landfill somewhere, and my Kirby Heritage, but I did notice an immediate and dramatic difference between the two when vacuuming up after she gave me a haircut. The Oreck would simply never pick up all of the hair off the carpet—80-90 percent maybe, but never all of it. No matter how many times I went over an area, it could never get it all. The Kirby, on the other hand, got it all in a couple of passes. That's why the Oreck an all-expense-paid trip to the dumpster.
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| Post# 321423 , Reply# 27 4/11/2015 at 15:15 (3,292 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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mmm the same could be said for those Swivel Sweepers. I had two of them. Never again. Great at movement but battery packs kept failing and even under the so called warranty I got with it, even the batteries the shopping company sent me never seemed to keep their charge.
If I had to choose between an Oreck and a Swivel Sweeper, I think I would go with an Oreck. My parents owned one and passed it down to me in later years. I know what to expect with Oreck - better pick up for starters that stays in the bag and doesn't get rolled around. | ||
| Post# 321452 , Reply# 29 4/11/2015 at 16:52 (3,292 days old) by HVRVACLVR (Altoona PA) | ||
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