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Hoover Turbopower U2332
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Post# 320588   4/6/2015 at 13:40 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

Well i got this lovely las off facebook for £20 (inc P+P) and two weeks later here she is! So, the seller did warn me it was filthy and jesus he wasn't lying! Motor bearings were so dry and horrid. Before video so you can have a listen.
So anyway she runs amazingly now, and as always starting with the before pics and then the after. Enjoy!


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Post# 320589 , Reply# 1   4/6/2015 at 13:41 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

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Post# 320590 , Reply# 2   4/6/2015 at 13:42 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

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Post# 320591 , Reply# 3   4/6/2015 at 13:43 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

Oscar wanting to pose lol

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Post# 320592 , Reply# 4   4/6/2015 at 13:45 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

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Post# 320593 , Reply# 5   4/6/2015 at 13:46 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

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Post# 320594 , Reply# 6   4/6/2015 at 13:48 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

wheel cap/cover broke off. Lower cord hook intact :D

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Post# 320595 , Reply# 7   4/6/2015 at 13:49 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

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Post# 320596 , Reply# 8   4/6/2015 at 13:51 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

don't worry i did remove all the wires before putting in the bath lol

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Post# 320597 , Reply# 9   4/6/2015 at 13:52 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

some damage and showing how dusty it was.

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Post# 320598 , Reply# 10   4/6/2015 at 13:56 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

the heart of this sexy beast!

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Post# 320599 , Reply# 11   4/6/2015 at 13:58 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

before starting on the motor ill wash these fisrt

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Post# 320601 , Reply# 12   4/6/2015 at 13:59 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

motor out now i can wash the chassis

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Post# 320604 , Reply# 13   4/6/2015 at 14:00 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

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Post# 320605 , Reply# 14   4/6/2015 at 14:01 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

Yuck!

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Post# 320606 , Reply# 15   4/6/2015 at 14:02 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

field all dusty and rusty :(

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Post# 320607 , Reply# 16   4/6/2015 at 14:03 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

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Post# 320608 , Reply# 17   4/6/2015 at 14:04 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
nice N clean

Bet that feels a lot better!

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Post# 320610 , Reply# 18   4/6/2015 at 14:06 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

I had to replace my bearings. They were almost stuck solid! So no wonder she sounded so ill

Post# 320611 , Reply# 19   4/6/2015 at 14:08 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
Moving onto the after pictures now

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Post# 320612 , Reply# 20   4/6/2015 at 14:10 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

rating sticker 604 - April 1986

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Post# 320613 , Reply# 21   4/6/2015 at 14:11 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

leans a bit but if you push it forwards it doesn't

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Post# 320615 , Reply# 22   4/6/2015 at 14:12 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
Different angles

cause' why not?

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Post# 320616 , Reply# 23   4/6/2015 at 14:13 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

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Post# 320619 , Reply# 24   4/6/2015 at 14:15 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        

Thats all. I do plan on getting a set of tools for this so fingers crossed i do!
I also have more pictures but i cba to post them all on here so use the link to see them all.


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Post# 320620 , Reply# 25   4/6/2015 at 14:16 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
Also

heres a video of her after her bearing change :P

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Post# 320628 , Reply# 26   4/6/2015 at 15:34 (3,278 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Once again you done a great job :D Looks like a nice machine too, never seen one of these in ages :/ Even a turbopower Junior in about a year

Post# 320634 , Reply# 27   4/6/2015 at 16:11 (3,278 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

I have said this at least once before - I have seen chassis wear on this model more so than any other which came after the original five Turbopower models from 1983. Originally there was no washer behind the wheel, only in front. At some point around the time that the original models were discontinued, Hoover made a number of cost-cutting changes, including using 3 clips on the fan cowling instead of 4, and a new way of securing the front wheels to the cleaner.

In addition, a second washer was placed behind each of the rear wheels, to prevent them wearing into the chassis. This is a great example of managing "planned-obsolescence", because everything one buys has been designed to wear out or else the manufacturers would never sell anything new, yet if they get it wrong and parts wear out too quickly, it becomes problematic for all involved. In this instance, the Turbopower chassis were wearing out very quickly, so Hoover overcame this by simply adding the extra washers. It is more than fair to say the cleaner already contained enough weak-spots to allow it to eventually break-down, without the need for the chassis to fall apart too.

But for some reason, the green U2332 model will often be found without the extra washers, leading me to think that either someone who worked on that production line for a very long time was making a mistake by not fitting 2 washers to each wheel, or that a good deal of stock of the U2332 was manufactured long before any of the other colours. This was undoubtably Hoover's flagship model of the era - the one which probably cost the least to build (taking account of the fact that the Junior model had a lot more metal and similar assembly costs, and the autoflex had more parts and more assembly - the costs of all of this possibly never being reflected in the final selling price), and I know Hoover liked to keep plenty of stock, so I'd not be at all surprised if a good deal of them were built prior to the actual launch date.


Post# 320637 , Reply# 28   4/6/2015 at 16:31 (3,278 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
excellent job

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there!  You should be proud!


Post# 320640 , Reply# 29   4/6/2015 at 16:43 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@parwaz786 @vintage repairer @gottahaveahoove

@parwaz ty :)

@vintagerepairer mine had the extra washer.

@gottahaveahoove Thanks i am as well :P


Post# 320642 , Reply# 30   4/6/2015 at 16:56 (3,278 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

Vacuumlover, if it had the washer behind the wheel (as well as one under the "C" clip) the chassis would never have worn away at the back like yours has. So with either it didn't have 2 washers per wheel, or else some retro fitted a washer after the damage was done - usually after the rear wheel became unclipped and fell off.


Post# 320644 , Reply# 31   4/6/2015 at 17:06 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@Vintagerepairer

Well it had been serviced at some point judging by the stickers. Heres a picture of what was in mine.

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Post# 320646 , Reply# 32   4/6/2015 at 17:25 (3,278 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

As I thought - a shiney new wheel. It looks almost black, I take it? These were sold as "spare parts" in a set that included two washers and a new clip. Usually what happened was the wheel bore into the chassis, which also widened the hole in the wheel, to the point that the "C" clip got pushed off, and thus the wheel went AWOL. If the chassis was still usuable, one could attempt to try just fitting a new wheel and two washers. But many times the damage to the chassis was too extreme for just that.

Post# 320651 , Reply# 33   4/6/2015 at 18:35 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@Vintagerepairer

The wheel doesn't seem very scratched either so i think it hasn't been on long.

Post# 320653 , Reply# 34   4/6/2015 at 18:54 (3,278 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

The fan looks new too. Incidently, the wiring arrangment on the motor of these models was often of the earlier style too. You pictures support this, as your motor has long external leads which connect the field coil to the brush holders. Later motors had this connection built into the inside of the motor. The bag-full lamp was also very different too, again as can be seen in your photos. Many aspects of the U2332 were different from the other cleaners of the same range. It's very odd.

Post# 320655 , Reply# 35   4/6/2015 at 19:09 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@Vintagerepairer

agreed. The fan had very few marks/scratches on. Same as the chamber not many marks in there. I reckon this was fully serviced at one point then hardly used and just stowed away

Post# 320658 , Reply# 36   4/6/2015 at 19:19 (3,278 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

What is interesting is the 13 amp plug. A very old MK plug, though far from the oldst. Has to be at least 40 years old. The point of me saying this is because it does not have part-insulated pins on the N & L pins. A new mains lead has clearly been fitted, but not to a new plug. At best there may have been a new plug which got damaged and was replaced by this old one. At worst someone put the old plug back on.

There is a lot of uncertainity about plugs without the part-sleeving, because since the later part of the 1980's such plugs were not allowed to be sold. Since 1995 no portable appliance was allowed to be sold without a plug attached, but fitted plugs can and do get damaged and require replacing. But there is nothing to stop these plugs being used as they are not illegal. It will be a good deal of years to come before they disappear for good, and for a fact not in my lifetime!

Since sleeved pins became standardised in the late 1980's, when servicing an appliance as a professional engineer and as a business, I was given to understand that one should always fit a new plug when making alterations to the mains lead of an appliance where the exisitng plug had no sleeving. I am not sure if this was a legal requirement, but many of us saw it as 1st class practice and did just that. Indeed when servicing ANY vacuum cleaner for any fault, I always fitted a new sleeved pin plug where none was supplied. That was my own rule.

I am intruiged as to why your cleaner has a new lead and a very old plug.


Post# 320662 , Reply# 37   4/6/2015 at 19:43 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@Vintagerepairer

I have no idea. I didn't replace the mains cable or anything. Maybe i should put a new plug on as well.

Post# 320663 , Reply# 38   4/6/2015 at 19:52 (3,278 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

Yes, a plug with sleeved pins would be a lot safer. Do you know what the pins are now sleeved?

Post# 320664 , Reply# 39   4/6/2015 at 19:56 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@Vintagerepairer

Ill go pop a new lug on then. Also no i dont know, why?

Post# 320666 , Reply# 40   4/6/2015 at 20:09 (3,278 days old) by ollivacuumboy12 ()        
vac

nice vac Emma :D


Post# 320667 , Reply# 41   4/6/2015 at 20:12 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@ollivacuumboy12

Ty

Post# 320693 , Reply# 42   4/7/2015 at 02:44 (3,278 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

Vacuumlover, I thought maybe not - it was such a long time ago when it all became a requirement for sleeved pins. With the style of plug you have on your cleaner, it is possible for anyone who unplugs it to touch the pins as it is unplugged. This isn't quite the probelm when it is plugged into a standard UK wall socket, but smaller surface mounted sockets do exist, as do of course adaptors and extention leads. One has to take great care when plugging and unplugging into these as the pins of the plug sit much closer to the edges of the socket area, thus can be touched much more easily.

With sleeved pins, only the insulated section would even be exposed if the remainder was sufficiently deep enough into the socket for the pins to still be live.

Another problem it solved - when UK appliances were not supplied with plugs, it was not uncommon (though highly dangerous) to find people were using the appliance by wrapping the bear wires around the pins of a plug attached to something else, and plugging in. The reasons for this were two-fold; either through laziness / an inibility to fit a plug, or because in days gone by when homes had more than one style of plug & socket an portable appliance was needed to be used in several different locations, thus one plug would not fit in all sockets. We really don't know how lucky we are with our wiring standards compared to how it was only a matter of years ago!


Post# 320703 , Reply# 43   4/7/2015 at 08:16 (3,278 days old) by vacuumlover (UK)        
@Vintagerepairer

I see now. Thank you for telling me :)

I've changed the plug to a brand new one


Post# 321429 , Reply# 44   4/11/2015 at 15:54 (3,273 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
i have

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seen some atrocious plug arrangements over the years indeed my own parents would regularly poke the bare ends of cables into sockets and secure them with a couple of match sticks and my dad would constantly be taking a plug off one thing to put on another and yet sometimes i wonder have we really progressed that much with our trailing bar sockets .I was in a house last week that had one of these in the kitchen with a washing machine .a toaster and an electric kettle and a microwave all plugged into it .I had been called out to the brand new washer the customer said it was blowing fuses all the time [i wonder why]trying to explain to this person that there was nothing wrong with the washer [and everything wrong with the plug arrangement ]was like trying to knit treacle .the odd thing was the house had recently been rewired and there were sockets everywhere so after some rearranging i managed to convince the customer that everything would be OK so back to what i said earlier have we really progressed from the old three way adapter at least you could only put three plugs into one of them and you didn't have that yard or so of flex to contend with


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