Thread Number: 28175
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Sauber trying to come to the US |
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Post# 314970 , Reply# 1   2/9/2015 at 01:26 (3,363 days old) by martin187 (Illinois)   |   | |
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it looks like a toaster |
Post# 314976 , Reply# 3   2/9/2015 at 06:34 (3,363 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )   |   | |
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Post# 314977 , Reply# 4   2/9/2015 at 06:40 (3,363 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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That's weird. How could Aerus allow Sauber to directly compete with the same canister vac? I know the tools are different, but the Aerus and Sauber are based on the exact same canister design as that of the parent company Lux International of Switzerland.
It would be similar to having Hoover USA show up in the UK with a vacuum identical to the Vax version. |
Post# 314980 , Reply# 5   2/9/2015 at 08:15 (3,363 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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"It would be similar to having Hoover USA show up in the UK with a vacuum identical to the Vax version."
It has been done before, not exactly by Hoover the brand, but by others. It depends on the marketing. After all, Electrolux in the UK may no longer apply their own name to vacuums, but there are a few AEG and Zanussi vacuums in the last year or so that have popped up, same machine, different badge - both are marketed completely differently though to attract buyers - and buyers these days don't often question that much about the brand other than reliability. If Sauber market this vacuum away from Aerus, it could well become an obvious rival but if it is more expensive than Aerus, it may not sell well if it is pitched directly as an Aerus rival. |
Post# 314981 , Reply# 6   2/9/2015 at 09:04 (3,363 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)   |   | |
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So what exactly are their plans for the US market? Are they definitely coming, or just toying with the idea? |
Post# 314984 , Reply# 7   2/9/2015 at 09:33 (3,363 days old) by lionkcommander ()   |   | |
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The dealer cost is $1400 and they are looking for someone to help them bring them in, I passed the information to my friend that owns DNP motors & parts and that is bringing Johnny vac to the US. |
Post# 314985 , Reply# 8   2/9/2015 at 10:04 (3,363 days old) by Cc (louisiana)   |   | |
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Seems strange since you can buy the Aerus platinum for 1400! I wonder if they would sell in retail stores - and that would be their defining marketing move. Competition is always good so we will see. |
Post# 315019 , Reply# 11   2/9/2015 at 15:02 (3,362 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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From what my friends who are at VDTA show right now are telling me, the dealer cost is not $1400. That's the suggested retail cost. The wholesale cost is half that.
Like the Sirena (excellent vacuum by the way), the wholesale is normally half the retail cost. A $750 wholesale cost would make the Sauber exactly the same wholesale cost as the Miele S8 Uniq with 236 power nozzle. At $1400 retail cost, that's quite high to expect anyone to pay in a vacuum shop. |
Post# 315029 , Reply# 12   2/9/2015 at 16:53 (3,362 days old) by lionkcommander ()   |   | |
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Here in El Paso the lux guardian platinum is selling for $3500. I guess I wrote it down wrong but for some reason I thought he told me it was 1400. |
Post# 315035 , Reply# 13   2/9/2015 at 17:30 (3,362 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)   |   | |
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Wow that does not seem like a very honest dealer considering it costs the dealer $750. |
Post# 315048 , Reply# 14   2/9/2015 at 19:52 (3,362 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 315055 , Reply# 15   2/9/2015 at 20:50 (3,362 days old) by Luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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That dealer in El Paso is blowing smoke. List price is probably half of that |
Post# 315073 , Reply# 16   2/10/2015 at 04:18 (3,362 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia)   |   | |
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Is the Hoover Regal here in Aus (not a TTI product buy a godfreys own sourced)
www.godfreys.com.au/hoover-regal-... The Sauber Intelligence is bought from Lux Int, and although it looks like the Aerus, the Sauber is the next model up with an LCD screen (not LED) Handle Controls and a braided hose. www.godfreys.com.au/sauber-intell... Or in gold with the ET1 Powerhead: www.godfreys.com.au/sauber-excell... They would not need to ask Aerus permission as they are in the same boat... buying the units en masse from Lux - yes they helped develop the product, but at the end of the day Lux can do what they want within reason. |
Post# 315121 , Reply# 17   2/10/2015 at 17:28 (3,361 days old) by uksausage (eastbourne east sussex UK)   |   | |
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Wish they would try and come to the UK |
Post# 315122 , Reply# 18   2/10/2015 at 17:40 (3,361 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Interesting information there Patrick! :-)
But - would it then be okay for Aerus to sell a 230volt version of their Guardian Platinum in Australia? To me it would be hard to understand how an Aerus dealer in the USA would accept a competitor vac shop selling essentially the same main unit and elbowing in on their revenue since this is the only premium vac Aerus sells now. Aerus dealers must have some exclusivity guarantee from the company, no? Unless Aerus dealers are given permission to sell Sauber vacs as well. |
Post# 315131 , Reply# 19   2/10/2015 at 19:10 (3,361 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 315135 , Reply# 20   2/10/2015 at 20:35 (3,361 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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The hose and wands would sell it to me ...I never liked those plastic clunky wands.And a braided hose...BEAUTIFUL!!! |
Post# 315240 , Reply# 22   2/11/2015 at 17:52 (3,360 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I think it would only be fair to have Aerus shops and salespeople be the exclusive distributors for Sauber's Intelligence in North America. It would give them a nice high-end line up that would give Aerus customers a nice choice of attachment sets for the same canister. And I'm sure the selection of bags and filters are identical for the entire line-up.
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Post# 315252 , Reply# 23   2/11/2015 at 19:34 (3,360 days old) by Luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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As far as service goes, aerus Electrolux is still the only company that's comes to you home to repair, pick up, or bring supplies. |
Post# 315283 , Reply# 25   2/12/2015 at 04:11 (3,360 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Now where have I seen that before.....LOL Seamus |
Post# 315409 , Reply# 26   2/13/2015 at 04:34 (3,359 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia)   |   | |
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At the end of the day, they could do what they want - they'd have to buy the units from lux anyways, and they'd have to find a retailer or set up a whole new sales channel and Aus is pretty jam packed with vacs and to find a retailer other than godfreys to sell vacs over $1000 would be very very difficult.
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Post# 315410 , Reply# 27   2/13/2015 at 04:41 (3,359 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia)   |   | |
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I have the example I was looking to use...
Holden (gm) and Isuzu sell a vehicle here called the Colorado/D-Max. These vehicles are manufactured in a shared facility BUT by two different companies - IE in Australia Holden is GM and Isuzu are a separate entity with no financial tie to GM. They co-exist by using different Dealers, Different marketing and slightly different specifications.... despite the core vehicle being 95% the same car, made in the same factory :) I would believe that Godfreys (since they just launched on the ASX) are now cashed up and are looking to expand their footprint, there is other vacs in these pics that are Hoover here, but as they are not TTI products, they have re-named as Sauber. |
Post# 315744 , Reply# 28   2/17/2015 at 08:50 (3,355 days old) by S31463221 (Frenchburg, KY)   |   | |
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After reading these posts, I decided to contact Godfreys and see what they had to say about it, here was their response:
Hi Stephen, Thanks for your inquiry, that model is not available in 120v for your market just yet. We expect to have it available a little later this year and can let you know accordingly. Appreciate your interest in our products, Regards, Godfreys Export Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S4 on the Telstra 4G network |
Post# 316577 , Reply# 29   2/23/2015 at 21:16 (3,348 days old) by lionkcommander ()   |   | |
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i wish she was my wife. |
Post# 317172 , Reply# 30   3/1/2015 at 22:29 (3,342 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 317190 , Reply# 31   3/2/2015 at 06:50 (3,342 days old) by S31463221 (Frenchburg, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 317192 , Reply# 32   3/2/2015 at 07:04 (3,342 days old) by Ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado)   |   | |
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I was at the VDTA as well, and played with the display model. First thing I looked at was the power cord, it was plugged into a regular 120V outlet with an american plug on the cord, so they've gone to the point of actually manufacturing a machine for the US market. I really hope they do actually release them here, they said in about 6 months I should be able to buy one here, as one of my questions was when and how I could buy a 120V one. They didn't have too much information about who would be selling them or how I could get one, but it sounds like those details aren't worked out yet.
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Post# 317196 , Reply# 33   3/2/2015 at 07:22 (3,342 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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I love the look of the gold model as well. I've never tried the ET-1 powerhead but I'd be interested to see how it compares to the one on the Lux Guardian. I like the look of the cloth hose - it also appears to have the regular style grip which I prefer over the gas pump handle style. If you click on 'Vacuum Cleaners' at the top of the page and then select 'Excellence-SE400' you will see more pics and description.
Gary CLICK HERE TO GO TO countryguy's LINK |
Post# 317266 , Reply# 35   3/2/2015 at 18:12 (3,341 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I hope you are right. Aerus customer service people are rude. I tried shortly after getting my Lux Guardian Platinum to get the Swiss Air scents for the machine. First they told me it was too new and they didn't have them yet. I called Aerus every few months and was finally told they were not going to carry them. I told them this was one of the reason's I bought this, they could of cared less.......My Lux Platinum is in a storage box in my attached garage.
In my opinion and this is not just sour grapes. I have loved Electrolux since the Marquis (my first canister Electrolux). When they sold there name for an influx of cash, it started their downfall. I cannot believe they are doing another name change......No wonder people go into retail stores and see the Electrolux name and think it is the Electrolux of old. When that sweeper tears up or fails, they probably think..."they don't make them like they used" to and will not buy another Electrolux. Sincerely, Bud Mattingly PR-21 By the way, I at least have my Commemorative Edition to use, which I did just yesterday. I also have an Aerus Lux 7000 and an Aerus Lux 3000. Unfortunately these will probably be my last...... |
Post# 328894 , Reply# 36   7/9/2015 at 13:39 (3,213 days old) by vacmaster (San Diego)   |   | |
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