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Sebo X4 brushroll not turning. 		[Down to Last]

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Post# 314036   2/1/2015 at 19:21 (3,364 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Hi I've had my X4 back that I bought in 2013 off a carboot, I sold it to my mums friend & now she's given it me back to clean for her. I've noticed that the brushroll wasn't spinning during use, I thought it might have been because loads of hair was wrapped around the brushroll but it's the same after the hair has been removed.

Would anyone be able to diagnose this for me?

Thanks 😊

Post# 314046 , Reply# 1   2/1/2015 at 20:59 (3,364 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Could be the motor belt that has come off. Check for clogs firstly though.

Post# 314167 , Reply# 2   2/2/2015 at 11:16 (3,364 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

I've checked for clogs & unless the brushroll has broken then I'm unsure really. I'll try to see if the belt is off tonight.

Post# 314170 , Reply# 3   2/2/2015 at 11:20 (3,364 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I think it might be the belt. Certainly if that amount of hair has caused tension, then there's every possibility that the belt has sheared off. Its dead easy to change the belt etc. Check Espares video.






Post# 314315 , Reply# 4   2/3/2015 at 10:13 (3,363 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Thanks for that sebo_fan.

Post# 314392 , Reply# 5   2/3/2015 at 19:29 (3,362 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Did you find out what the problem is?

Post# 315034 , Reply# 6   2/9/2015 at 17:22 (3,357 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Yes, the second belt had sheared off. The other one was fine though.

Which belt is which because they have a primary & secondary one. I'm guessing the one I need is the secondary one as it goes to the brushroll cover.

Post# 315037 , Reply# 7   2/9/2015 at 17:41 (3,357 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Its the smaller belt that goes to the brush roll cover, known as Primary belt part number 5110. The bigger one is called Secondary belt part number 5463

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Post# 315039 , Reply# 8   2/9/2015 at 17:56 (3,357 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Bloody ell, what a faff, much easier to change a belt on a regular flat belt cleaner!
Post# 315040 , Reply# 9   2/9/2015 at 17:57 (3,357 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Yes but the SEBO's last a heck of a lot longer than normal non geared rubber.

And I doubt most uprights can pick up glass, marbles, coins, bolts and anything else without damaging the brush roll, which the SEBO can handle quite easily.

Post# 315041 , Reply# 10   2/9/2015 at 18:02 (3,357 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Thanks sebo_fan, I was wondering which belt it was. Just found out the X4 was made in 2006 & this is it's first belt change.

Post# 315044 , Reply# 11   2/9/2015 at 18:17 (3,357 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Well who the hell vacuums up glass, coins, marbles and bolts?!?!

I have had the same belt on my Hoover Turbopower 1 U2194 since I got it in early 2012 when I cleaned it up, I had that cleaner out the other day and the brushroll is still turning fine!

 

I got a new in box Hoover Purepower manufactured in 1999, the belt still turns the brushroll fine, it could benefit from a new belt but it turns the brushroll perfectly adequately.
Post# 315045 , Reply# 12   2/9/2015 at 18:34 (3,357 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Ive had the same belt on my...

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And?

Alex I do wish you'd stop being so anti-SEBO.

This thread was started by HI/LO who wanted to know if anyone could diagnose the problem for his SEBO X4.

"...I got a new in box Hoover Purepower manufactured in 1999, the belt still turns the brushroll fine..."

Yes. No wonder the original is intact. It clearly hasn't been used on a daily basis since it is "still in a box"

I've had the same belt on my X4 for 10 years since it was bought brand new in 2004. The model is now with my neighbour down the road. She's still on the same belts.

And for your information, due to her poor eyesight and being a new Grandma, the odd marble and odd piece of lego often gets sucked up the SEBO. Her husband adores the upright because it can clean the carpet in his workshop which often has loose screws, wood shavings and stuff I wouldn't dream of driving a non-commercially based upright vacuum through.

Post# 315070 , Reply# 13   2/9/2015 at 23:43 (3,356 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Something you didn't want to here and you throw a tantrum, scream, scream, stomp, stomp

Mr Sebo up my Ar**
Post# 315077 , Reply# 14   2/10/2015 at 04:50 (3,356 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Agree with Nar on this one, my friend's folks have had an X1 in daily use since 1998 and it's never had or needed a new belt. Infact, it's had a complete brushroll replacement and still doesn't need a new belt.

 

The 2 belt system in the Sebo is not dissimilar to the 2 belts on the Hoover Turbomaster.
Post# 315078 , Reply# 15   2/10/2015 at 05:59 (3,356 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire)        

I have never had any belt problems with Sebo vacs, but regular flat belts do stretch and snap after a while. My Turbopower 2 seems to suffer from the stretched belt syndrome more than any other upright I've owned and while the brushes still rotate, you can hear the activator slowing down on carpet when the belt has lost its tension.

A Turbopower 2 with the original activator and a toothed belt would be fantastic.

Post# 315084 , Reply# 16   2/10/2015 at 08:32 (3,356 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I never said flat belts were better, I was saying that it was easier to change a flat belt on an ordinary machine that faffing about with the Sebo trying to change the belt.

Roger I agree, the Turbopower 2 belts stretch fairly quickly and cause the brushroll to spin slowly.
Post# 315085 , Reply# 17   2/10/2015 at 08:49 (3,356 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Not much difference really compared to having to undo a few screws on the bottom of a base soleplate of most uprights to gain access to the belt.

Only one that has ever been easy to remove in my experience and it has been the old LG bagged uprights - had a simple slider that unlocked the sole plate from the machine for access to the belt.

Post# 315090 , Reply# 18   2/10/2015 at 08:58 (3,356 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Well most vacuums you undo two, three or four screws but they was at least 8 screws and bits and bobs that have to come off to access the belts on the Sebo, true though that it will last AGES but what I am saying is, when it comes time to change it, it is fiddly!
Post# 315091 , Reply# 19   2/10/2015 at 09:05 (3,356 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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What do you expect from a commercial upright where the bits on it can be changed by the owner and not sent back to the manufacturer?

Post# 315095 , Reply# 20   2/10/2015 at 09:12 (3,356 days old) by marcusprit ()        

I've seen the Espares video and it looks quite straight forward and you probably wont have to change the belts for around 10yrs so it's not a problem. Working on vacuum cleaners is FUN! :)

Post# 315099 , Reply# 21   2/10/2015 at 09:24 (3,356 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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It is easy to do yes, but it takes to long for just a belt change, much longer than a flat belt cleaner on a regular machine.

nobody wants to be spending like half an hour changing a belt, granted they would not need to be changed as often, if ever.

 
Post# 315250 , Reply# 22   2/11/2015 at 19:21 (3,354 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Anyway, Hi/LO - did you get it fixed?

Post# 315348 , Reply# 23   2/12/2015 at 12:53 (3,354 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

I'm still waiting for the belt to arrive.

Post# 315372 , Reply# 24   2/12/2015 at 17:14 (3,354 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

SEBO vacuums are great and the belt breaking is unlikely to happen. Not a fan of the X series due to the way they look, the brush cannot be turned off and I prefer the Felix as it's more versatile and looks better in my opinion. Never seen a broken belt on a Felix.

It's not hard to change the belt on the X series - I have done it. It does not take half an hour, that's an exaggeration! I think we need to note that it's unlikely that this needs to be done unless there's a fault with the machine!! Once the belt has been obtained, I suggest checking that that servo motor is functioning and lifting the head up and down. Failure of the servo motor can cause strain on the brush drive and breakage of the belt. Again this is rare.

It's pretty clever how these machines go together and take apart just as easily. That computer system may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it certainly is very clever stuff. A vacuum cleaner that tells you it's going up or down, that's it's brush is worn out and even shuts itself down if there is a blockage and allows for immediate use once the blockage has been cleared. Is very unique. Also don't forget that the handle comes away with the power cord for easy replacement if you run over the cord or damage it another way.

Post# 315415 , Reply# 25   2/13/2015 at 06:31 (3,353 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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It can take up to half an hour if you have never done it before though. Its not just removing screws and lifting things up. I nearly broke the microchip board the first time I ever changed the belt on my parents X1 Auto.

Post# 315543 , Reply# 26   2/14/2015 at 18:30 (3,352 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Yes Sebo_Fan I'm sure it can take half an hour, an hour, two hours, three hours etc etc etc etc. Zzzzzz

Post# 315546 , Reply# 27   2/14/2015 at 19:38 (3,351 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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If you have nothing to say that is constructive, don't say anything at all. You obviously have a bee on your bonnet from the last thread we both posted on. Sorry if I annoyed you. Move on.

Post# 315551 , Reply# 28   2/14/2015 at 20:01 (3,351 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Ditto Sebo Fan

Post# 315552 , Reply# 29   2/14/2015 at 20:14 (3,351 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Anyway, back to the point. Hi-Low, I hope you manage to fit the belt ok and get the machine working fine. Hopefully the servo motor works fine because if it doesnt, then the belt may break again prematurely.

The X4 motor belt part number should be 5463 but the older ones and the X1s will have a 5379 belt from the motor. Yours should definitely have a 5463. ;))




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