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Thread Number: 27870
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Sebo Evolution 300 or Sebo G1 |
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| Post# 311355 1/9/2015 at 04:33 (3,387 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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I am planning to get a new Sebo, but I can't decide if I should get the G1 or the new Evolution. Does anyone have any suggestions? | ||
| Post# 311357 , Reply# 1 1/9/2015 at 06:25 (3,387 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 311359 , Reply# 2 1/9/2015 at 06:41 (3,387 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
As Chris states rightfully the G1 and G2 is not available in the UK. It was replaced by the SEBO DART model. You can find the Ensign SM1 which is the commercial version in the UK but it is hard to come by and not always cheap. There was one listed on Ebay UK last week.
The new Evolution is really suited for commercial business - is it for home use or commercial that you want to buy the SEBO for? | ||
| Post# 311438 , Reply# 4 1/9/2015 at 18:06 (3,387 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Ok. Well, as I said previously, the Evolution takes different bags - it doesn't take the same bags as the X although the filter roll is the same, the other thing to remember is that the HEPA filter is also unique to the Evolution. It can be a real bind not having a manual adjusting - I know. I have an old 360 that I rescued from a commercial venue and I notice the difference straight away with pick up in my home.
The other alternative is the SEBO Felix - smaller dust bags but quite easy to get around the home with and has a brush roll on/off for hard floors. | ||
| Post# 311482 , Reply# 6 1/10/2015 at 07:03 (3,386 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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For simplicity I would choose either. It really depends on your home and what you're likely to put up with. Bear in mind the Evolution is all new, so buying the Evo 300 sizing means you'll get the same kind of floor head size that your X series already cleans up with but then the orange filter cartridge (yes thats what I meant) is slightly unique to the Evo 300. The BS36 has a bigger floor head and it is slightly heavier, but shares the same paper dust bags with the Evo series and lacks the stronger, longer lasting synthetic dust bags used in the X series.
Im not sure what you mean about the height adjustment - all that SEBO have done is given the Evo model a side push button for the hose to adjust the height of the brush roll when in use. When the vacuum cleaner is switched on, as far as I know there is no auto adjustment that rises or dips going to the height adjustment set. If it does that "electronically," the design element is lost on me, other than just keeping the brush roll off the carpet surface until the handle is lowered/adjustment pre-selected. There is a second hand Ensign SM2 on Ebay UK going right now, but Im not sure on the condition of it and whether you are prepared to buy that model - I know I would and I have been considering it. Same kind of floor head size to what I'm used to with my Felix and Sebo 360. Item number 321630444444 | ||
| Post# 311484 , Reply# 8 1/10/2015 at 07:11 (3,386 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Mmm the dog in the video seems to want to eat the bloke's face off. But it is a great video and I don't think it is very nice to call that man a nob, because he's not a nob!
Roger - the Evolution has three different sets of cleaning bristles to choose from compared to the BS36/etc series. As opposed to just the two types such as red hard floor style or black. The third one is green bristles, possibly for soft floors. | ||
| Post# 311487 , Reply# 9 1/10/2015 at 07:38 (3,386 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire) | ||
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I didn't call him a nob, I called him a knob. Anyway, I'm sure he's been called worse. Cute dog though. | ||
| Post# 311497 , Reply# 10 1/10/2015 at 10:26 (3,386 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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Ok Thanks, I didn't see that one, I saw his short video about the G1. Will have another think over the weekend and decide next week if it's an Evolution or the G1. | ||
| Post# 311498 , Reply# 11 1/10/2015 at 10:43 (3,386 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire) | ||
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Found a new video featuring the Evolution. It's in German, but at least you get to see the cleaner in a bit more detail. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Sensotronic's LINK | ||
| Post# 311507 , Reply# 12 1/10/2015 at 12:40 (3,386 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Choice of three optional brush strips on the Evo uprights.
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| Post# 311522 , Reply# 13 1/10/2015 at 15:26 (3,386 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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Saw that video, my German is somewhat limited, I understood a bit - was going to coax a friend who is fluent to watch it :) It was interesting reading the specs on Sebo's website, the G1 is better rated in energy efficiency than the new Evolution. | ||
| Post# 311549 , Reply# 14 1/10/2015 at 20:53 (3,385 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The ratings on SEBO's German website are different to the ratings available in the UK, though not with every model SEBO make but most of them. Personally I don't believe in any of these energy ratings on the basis that a particular model I have bought from another brand has "A" rated performance on hard floors yet fails to pick up first time and is an absolute pig to use, thus its "A rating" is open to question when it can't even pick up basic dust off a hard floor in my use.
Same with SEBO's own data. It is confusing - how can the same brush roll on a BS model get a higher rating for carpet cleaning than the new Evolution? There's other surprising data too, with same fitted motors being added to different models, yet all appear to have different energy ratings. Yes, whilst the annual rate of consumption isn't the same, it seems the stats haven't been all that well thought out - but every brand seems to be like this - SEBO are not alone.
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| Post# 311580 , Reply# 15 1/11/2015 at 03:30 (3,385 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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Had a think - even though I do like the evolution 300 what swayed me was the fact that I have realised I still have 4 unopened service x boxes - so all I would have to buy is the exhaust filters. I think I will order the G1 on Monday | ||
| Post# 311583 , Reply# 16 1/11/2015 at 04:33 (3,385 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 311587 , Reply# 17 1/11/2015 at 05:25 (3,385 days old) by Sensotronic (Englandshire) | ||
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If you know where to get the exhaust filters please let me know. | ||
| Post# 311621 , Reply# 18 1/11/2015 at 15:51 (3,385 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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How many are you looking for? | ||
| Post# 311675 , Reply# 19 1/11/2015 at 21:55 (3,384 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire) | ||
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I just want one for now because I have never replaced the one in my G1. I did wash it sucessfully, but I don't know if it would stand repeated washing. | ||
| Post# 311690 , Reply# 20 1/12/2015 at 05:20 (3,384 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 311724 , Reply# 22 1/12/2015 at 11:30 (3,384 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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It could be two things in my experience - either the roller belt inside the floor head is needing to be replaced or can come off unexpectedly. Or, the sensor wheel might need adjusting. There's a holding screw on the underside, undo it a little, don't take it out but switch it on after that and see if it improves.
Even if you don't post in a while, be sure to return to this forum as its a good way to share experiences and stuff. | ||
| Post# 311758 , Reply# 23 1/12/2015 at 16:11 (3,384 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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I'll give it a go in the morning, also have the x4 so could always try the servo and see if the same happens with that one. | ||
| Post# 311839 , Reply# 25 1/13/2015 at 12:58 (3,383 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 311948 , Reply# 28 1/14/2015 at 15:19 (3,382 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 311956 , Reply# 29 1/14/2015 at 15:40 (3,382 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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it was the servo, the x4 servo corrected the problem and then the x4 had the problem lol The X1 is 14 years old ish | ||
| Post# 312182 , Reply# 30 1/16/2015 at 10:57 (3,380 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 312270 , Reply# 31 1/17/2015 at 06:27 (3,379 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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I am not spending £40 on a new servo from Sebo, it's far too expensive for what it is. Anyway pulled it apart, seems it is just a bunch of gears, none have worn or broken teeth. Will try and fix it next week, if I can.
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| Post# 313892 , Reply# 32 1/31/2015 at 11:35 (3,365 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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It arrived finally yeah!
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| Post# 313942 , Reply# 33 2/1/2015 at 04:12 (3,364 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 313943 , Reply# 34 2/1/2015 at 06:55 (3,364 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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The G1 is a cleaner I've considered buying. Fantastic performance on carpet, extremely reliable, cheap to run easy to maintain but the fact that it doesn't work on hard floors puts me off a little. | ||
| Post# 314045 , Reply# 35 2/1/2015 at 20:56 (3,363 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 314062 , Reply# 36 2/2/2015 at 01:20 (3,363 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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If you have more than one cleaner it's not a problem but not everyone can afford more than one cleaner. The G1 doesn't clean hard floors well its doesn't have the squeegy that the X series has so spits the particles everywhere. | ||
| Post# 314126 , Reply# 37 2/2/2015 at 08:37 (3,363 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Sounds to me then that you are trying to gain reactions rather than actually make a statement of possible purchase. After all, you appear to already own "...Miele S5, S8, Sebo Felix, Numatic Henry.."
I doubt you would win anything extra already owning a SEBO Felix. Okay, a bigger bag and that side wand is all that you'll miss out on. | ||
| Post# 314136 , Reply# 39 2/2/2015 at 09:29 (3,363 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I agree with Marcus, I'm not a fan of using a machine without a brushroll on bare floors.
One option is that Sebo sell all their additional tools separately, so you could always use the extension hose, extension wand and a straight suction floorhead on bare floors if you wanted. It would save owning 2 machines but might be a bit faffy to cart additional tools around. | ||
| Post# 314138 , Reply# 40 2/2/2015 at 09:41 (3,363 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Chris am I dreaming or did you just agree with me? Gees you cud knock me over with a feather! Haha :-) | ||
| Post# 314140 , Reply# 41 2/2/2015 at 09:50 (3,363 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 314142 , Reply# 42 2/2/2015 at 09:52 (3,363 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Haha! | ||
| Post# 314146 , Reply# 43 2/2/2015 at 10:00 (3,363 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I think you mean on hard floors, you're not a fan of using a machine WITH a brush roll, though, Chris?
Marcus - it all comes down to what owners do with their vacuums. In the years before we had marble tiling and where laminate had been used, the laminate could be vacuumed with the X upright; it made no marks, no scratches and the delicate brush roll used always cleaned up easily, all that despite the metal plate at the front. Another good upright in my experience for hard floors is the Oreck XL. | ||
| Post# 314147 , Reply# 44 2/2/2015 at 10:03 (3,363 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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you're not a fan of using a machine WITH a brush roll Whoops, sorry, my mistake! Glad you got the gist of it, Nar.
And as you rightly pointed out, it's all about experience. The only bare floors I've ever had have been laminate or lino, and a vacuum with no brushroll off function has never done a great job on either but I never had the delicate brushroll in the vacuum. | ||
| Post# 314154 , Reply# 45 2/2/2015 at 10:49 (3,363 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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The X series has the squeegy thing so that stops it kicking back. That helps | ||
| Post# 314158 , Reply# 46 2/2/2015 at 10:54 (3,363 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 314160 , Reply# 47 2/2/2015 at 10:57 (3,363 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 314163 , Reply# 48 2/2/2015 at 11:06 (3,363 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Have they stopped the replacement squeegy in america think I saw a video where Eddie ezvacuum said the squeegy came in the service box? This post was last edited 02/02/2015 at 14:02 | ||
| Post# 314447 , Reply# 49 2/4/2015 at 11:33 (3,361 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 314723 , Reply# 50 2/6/2015 at 09:32 (3,359 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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The sealing strip comes with the service box in the US but not in the UK for some reason.
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| Post# 314728 , Reply# 51 2/6/2015 at 10:05 (3,359 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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And the X4 has been upgraded to a C on carpet from a D. I'm tempted to buy a used one on eBay. I watched Steve's video on YouTube and I'm having second thoughts about the auto height adjustment. Maybe it cleans better than I first thought! :-) | ||
| Post# 314897 , Reply# 52 2/8/2015 at 08:15 (3,357 days old) by spacey3 (Portsmouth) | ||
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The G1 is great, it's better than the automatic adjustment. The bottom doesn't have the rubber strip. As regards to cost it was cheaper buying the G1 with the delivery £179 including the delivery. | ||
| Post# 314900 , Reply# 53 2/8/2015 at 08:22 (3,357 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Thanks Spacey. Where can i get the G1 for £179? | ||
| Post# 314904 , Reply# 54 2/8/2015 at 09:37 (3,357 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The SM2 I have just floats on setting 2 and pick up is fantastic. The bigger floor head in my home is such a boon! I used it just this afternoon and did the house in 15 mins compared to what I am used to with the X1A. The X1A is probably going to be the second eldest "vintage" upright I now have, to the SEBO 360. The bigger floor head makes all the difference.
The sealing strip is available to buy from SEBO UK as a separate part. SEBO don't see it as being a major part to sell WITH the service box. Thus its an optional cost. | ||
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