Thread Number: 27856
/ Tag: Recent Vacuum Cleaners from past 20 years
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Post# 311176   1/7/2015 at 14:43 (3,389 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Well I've run into issues with my company and and the vacuums they provide, if available, never function properly so I end up bringing my personal vacuums to work. As many of you know I'm primarily a power head canister person. I only have 2 uprights and both are 4.3 Amp Hoover Convertibles. The one I most recently got and have been using on sites just broke its height adjuster last night and is now unusable until repaired. I'm looking to upgrade though to something bigger, and more powerful. I need more power and I don't feel that the Convertibles get as low as they should to low profile commercial grade flooring.
I'm allocating minimal budget for this purchase as I don't feel I should even have to get one but it will make work easier. Primarily though, I'm looking to upgrade away from the Convertible Elite for bigger and more powerful-- I need a Tim Allen Model. LOL Unit will be used for low profile commercial grade carpeting and throw rugs. Some features I'm seeking: Powerful, reasonable construction, bagged, good filtration, **great at low profile carpet cleaning, headlight preferred, upper cord hook release or winder, great edge cleaning-- agitator bristles very close to both sides of nozzle, easy to use, 30' or larger cord, semi-widepath head--15" is great but a 13.25" would work. Not too heavy-- a Hoover Self Propelled Windtunnel or Power Drive is too heavy. yAttachments are a bonus, but not completely necessary cause I do own several canister vacuums that occasionally come to work with me as well. Models I've heavily considered: --Used Hoover Widepath, TurboPower 4500, Breathe Easy or Soft Guard series-- see a similar model below. --Hoover T series Windtunnel bagged or its similar model --Hoover WindtunnelMax bagged-- I have little experience with either of these. --Hoover Professional CH50020, similar Royal/ Hoover Guardsman **smaller cleaning path, no attachments are possible issues --Hoover Legacy, Dimension like series **smaller cleaning path possible issue. --Eureka PowerPlus/ WorldVac Victory style 15" Widetrack series ** nonswivel cord hook possible issue, previous Eureka & Sanitaire issues possible issues. -- Riccar/ Simplicity Brilliance or older machines. **poor edge cleaning on belt side of nozzle an issue, how is low profile cleaning? Avoidances: Pricey ones, Orecks, Sebos, Kirbys, Sanitaires- lots of issues lately, newer motors stick to door mats and make nearly impossible to clean, heavy Electrolux/ Aerus uprights otherwise a Lux upright may work well, bagless models, San Thank you all for help and suggestions. Primarily I'm looking to Hoover cause I know they clean well and they have a number of machines over the years that I think would work.
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Post# 311181 , Reply# 1   1/7/2015 at 15:38 (3,389 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)   |   | |
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Post# 311223 , Reply# 2   1/8/2015 at 00:38 (3,388 days old) by Dustin (Jackson, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 311224 , Reply# 3   1/8/2015 at 01:01 (3,388 days old) by ryan1994jeep (Georgia)   |   | |
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I have been cleaning a USDA building for almost 5 years that also has commercial carpet that is very low profile. I started out with a bagless Hoover T-Series upright that died only a year after I started.Due to someone using it to pick up water after an A/C leak. I always found the base would never get low enough to the carpet and I would have to go over the carpet several times to pick up hole punches that would always scatter around when you passed over them. I assume the bases are the same on the bagged version? Then I started using a Riccar N2100 that I picked up at a thrift store. I really liked it and still use it sometimes and, keep as a backup there. I now use a Hoover Windtunnell Air. Its amazing on the low carpet and I use it to vacuum the tile floor that is also there. I know you wanted a bagged machine but, I like using the Windtunnell Air that I wanted to suggest it as a option. I have not had any problems with filtration or suction on it and have been using it for about 2 years. |
Post# 311285 , Reply# 5   1/8/2015 at 14:44 (3,388 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Yes, employer should provide each account with vacuums. However, (chuckle) every time we get an issue with a vacuum, and we've had SEVERAL, they send another unit that is SUPPOSED TO have been checked for proper running order but yet ironically they don't run well or have some issues. We were given one once with a huge hole in red passage way at end of clear Quik Kleen chamber on a Sanitaire SC866!! 5 of 6 of our accounts have a broken or no vacuum currently available from our company. Supposedly some machines are on order!! Meanwhile I have a Hoover Windtunnel Canister S3630 in one building, a Hoover Celebrity Elite IV S3141 with Quadraflex Powermatic from a Dimension 1000 in another account, my Hoover Convertible Elite upright in teal nearly identical to an Estate, which I just acquired from Chris's vacuum store at John Long's last Monster Halloween Bash just broke the other night at a building 2 nights ago. The rear wheel axle bent and height adjuster is completely non-functional. My other Hoover Convertible Elite U4153 with Decade 80 style hood, has a rear wheel issue as well and doesn't rotates wobbly. Every night we take a floater machine for other buidlings cause we're not willing to leave personal machines of mine in certain buildings. Sometimes float machine is my Hoover PowerMax S3603-040 canister, last night we used my brothers Hoover Windtunnel Plus S3639 bagged power head canister.
The Windtunnel air has me stumped as to my being turned off by the bagless concept, appears to be a shorter nozzle, and durability in commercial settings worries me!! |
Post# 312133 , Reply# 7   1/15/2015 at 16:22 (3,381 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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I was recommended the Hoover Tempo by a few. Here are my potential worries for that:
-- No headlight??-- Not sure if all Tempos have a headlight. I feel like Hoover has made changes to this machine in the several years its been out. I would prefer a headlight!! -- Too aggressive agitation may ruin some area rugs -- CWP brush rolls don't clean or perform like the Hoover ones did -- No brush roll on/ off -- Very flimsy short hoses. -- If upgraded to Hoover Windtunnel stretch hose, they suck in so much you get little to no distance with those hoses as well. -- Not sure how these perform on rubber backed mats? Do they bunch up rug making it near impossible to use? Thanks all and any who have some advice for me. |
Post# 312138 , Reply# 8   1/15/2015 at 17:50 (3,381 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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How about a used Simplicity/riccar or even a dustcare/bernina?
I too am not satisfied with the vacuums my job provides (Windsor Versamatic Plus). After seeing 2-3 cups of sand come out of one entry way rug after beating it against the ground post-vacuuming i decided i needed something better. I went to the my usual haunt and bought a Simplicity 7 for work. Later on i bought a Bernina 6700 due to having another floor to clean at the time. Both of them are good machines they are fairly quiet which is great in a daytime environment, have pretty strong airflow, are solid feeling. Of course if your area is filthy even they may not be able to cope without frequent bag changes, i once cleaned a rug in a heavily neglected area the simplicity picked up about 3-4 lbs of sand and then the bag light came on. To deal with the large amount of sand and grit i ended up getting a used Kirby G4 which copes with that type of debris better Just my 2c on things. |
Post# 312150 , Reply# 9   1/15/2015 at 19:52 (3,381 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)   |   | |
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That was the best price i could find shipped for this basic style of vacuum, with metal where you want it. Pay more for wand/tools and/or wider cleaning path, and/or commercial versions.
Bernina, Fuller Brush all the other Tacony variations, Panasonic/Kenmore et al make it. Not all are created equal of course. CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK
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Post# 312155 , Reply# 10   1/15/2015 at 21:51 (3,381 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Rob, speaking as someone who has extensive experience in a variety of commercial cleaning environments, (hotels, schools, nursing homes, hospitals, retail stores), if you're absolutely dead set on a machine with onboard tools, I strongly recommend looking at a Panasonic commercial upright. They have a quick draw stretch hose, a metal brushroll with replaceable bristles, bags are cheap and easy to find, and they work absolutely beautifully. Not to mention the fact that they hold up to abuse VERY well.
If you're open to something more high end, I would recommend a Windsor Sensor WITHOUT the automatic height adjust. The one with the manual height adjuster, in my opinion, cleans better AND it's cheaper. Again, these machines have onboard tools, a quick draw hose, and are top contenders in the durability category. They also have excellent filtration and very large dust bags. If this was me personally doing a job, I would stick to a two machine setup, a Sanitaire SC886 or SC899 depending how wide an area I would be cleaning with it, and a good commercial canister, such as a Nilfisk-Advance or a NaceCare (the American side of the UK Numatic Henry) I would avoid a machine like a Hoover Tempo or Commercial WindTunnel. They clean well, but have several weak spots, such as easily snapped off cord hooks, handle release pedals, and motor mounts in the base. I've also seen a large number with melted bases due to strings wrapping around brushroll ends and them overheating. Another note, you should not be using a household machine in a commercial setting. Their cords aren't grounded, they weren't designed for such hard use, and if someone were to get hurt while using one, OSHA would blame the machine and you could get into hot water for not using proper commercially rated cleaning equipment. |
Post# 312166 , Reply# 12   1/16/2015 at 00:54 (3,380 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 312168 , Reply# 13   1/16/2015 at 01:44 (3,380 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)   |   | |
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Tennant commercial upright. I have the old model made by Lindhaus i believe. This new model looks more like the Panasonic/Tacony/Benina commercial vac. Excellent price on this machine new.
Here is a video: CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK on eBay
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Post# 312208 , Reply# 14   1/16/2015 at 15:07 (3,380 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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It is only myself and my brother using my vacuums. NO ONE ELSE!! The company we work for has asked us recently if we could continue using some of my vacuums because they have no more right now. We've had nothing but issues with the machines we've gotten from the company.
All of the company machines are Sanitaire SC866 machines with shake out bag. We've had nothing but issues with them, to include: -- Sticking to rubber backed mats and bunching them up so its near impossible to clean. Even with Dial-A-Nap set to 5 or 6, rather than lowest at 1!! -- Eating area rugs -- Rejecting and/ or spitting out salt and other tiny granular items -- Blowing out tons of dust clouds -- Awful to empty-- many of the bag clips have to be pryed off or put to a hard surface like sidewalk to start to slide off. -- No attachments -- Terrible smells -- Terrible pick up of lint and strings I will pull all of my vacuums out of the buildings so that there is no chance of anyone using machines while my brother and I aren't there. We clean the buildings while they are closed with no one else in building except for myself and brother. They are normal office buildings, nothing heavy industrial. Years ago I used to bring some of my vacuums into Ruby Tuesday and other restaurants I've worked in over the years and they always appreciated my bringing machines in and never gave any sort of warning regarding it. My education with Bachelors in Hotel & Restaurant Management gave me no insight or warnings towards Commercial use equipment only or risk OSHA issues. Many of the businesses I've worked in over the years had bagless Bissells from Wal-Mart as their vacuum for everyday normal usage. Thank you all for continued help. |
Post# 312212 , Reply# 15   1/16/2015 at 15:28 (3,380 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 312916 , Reply# 16   1/22/2015 at 11:25 (3,374 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)   |   | |
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and if you use the coupon i posted earlier it matches that Hoover in price. 2 motors, above floor, OSHA etc. See link: Sanitaire SC785AT Commercial Upright The Sanitaire SC785AT Commercial Upright is a lightweight cleaner exclusively designed for commercial cleaning applications. • Meets OSHA specifications for commercial use • Fold-down handle lowers height to only 28 1/2-inch for easy storage • Micron Filter system retains 99 percent of pollens and dust in machine • Has automatic carpet height adjustment and dual-edge cleaning; on/off switch conveniently located near handle Bag: Sanitaire Style SL Vacuum Bags CLICK HERE TO GO TO stricklybojack's LINK
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Post# 313018 , Reply# 17   1/23/2015 at 07:43 (3,373 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Thanks to all who have responded. Due to more drastic work changes I am postponing this issue for now.
I will most likely revisit this in the near future. I do appreciate the ideas. When I do it's possible I may get more than 1 vacuum. One vacuum will definitely be a minimum 13" nozzle but most likely a 14 or 15". The other if I get 2 will be a Hoover steel lined fan chamber with headlight Professional series with or without dirt cup. I can say that our work experience thus far, it would be really hard for TJ or I to patronize Sanitaire right now. I've directed Whitney and TJ to never let me bring home another older style Eureka upright or Sanitaire cause we've had nothing but issues with filtration, getting lint off rugs, and units being able to clean area rugs without eating rug. The shake out bag filtration has been awful for my allergies. A disposable bag HEPA ST has been debated but still not something we could easily see putting our hard earned money into. |