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Post# 301653   10/13/2014 at 10:27 (3,454 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 301656 , Reply# 1   10/13/2014 at 11:02 (3,454 days old) by Matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)   |   | |
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Whatever they're rated you can bet it will be loads better than that Sebo rubbish you use to spead the dirt about on your carpets ;) lmao |
Post# 301660 , Reply# 4   10/13/2014 at 11:55 (3,454 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Post# 301661 , Reply# 5   10/13/2014 at 11:56 (3,454 days old) by marcusprit ()   |   | |
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Oh fair enough :-) |
Post# 301663 , Reply# 6   10/13/2014 at 12:03 (3,454 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 301670 , Reply# 7   10/13/2014 at 13:26 (3,454 days old) by kirbyg6 (York)   |   | |
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Post# 301698 , Reply# 9   10/13/2014 at 17:03 (3,454 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Henry gets c on hard floor cause because they put cracks on the hard floor The Machine has to pick it The dust in the crack to get a good rating. I think Kirby get A for energy and A for carpet I don't think hardwood and omissions will not be that good. For Henry don't forget this is all done by professionals and people know what they're doing. As for Henry know someone has a Henry Everytime it's turned on always smells like dust they always change the bag and use genuine bags and it's only about-nine months-old.
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Post# 301700 , Reply# 10   10/13/2014 at 17:20 (3,454 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well, if anyone stopped by to see the Hoover Idol stick vac thread and the machine I bought, Hoover have gone and slapped an "A" for hard floor cleaning. A pain in the A** more like! It has a rubber squeegee roll that doesn't move with the air from the vacuum cleaner but moves freely, presumably designed to roll across a floor. Then there is a static dual channel of squeegee strips at the back where the main suction channel is.
Now if you have ever tried pushing a rubber broom across a hard floor, it doesn't always glide - it is positively difficult to do with Hoover's roller and fixed design. Yet Hoover have rated it's hard floor performance as "A" with this hard floor tool. It fails to pick up properly the first time around and yes there is a video being made of it, to show up Hoover's poor design. Meanwhile Numatic's John and Lewis models should do better at carpet performance - both are equipped with Airobrush turbo floor heads as well as their suction only floor heads. |
Post# 301706 , Reply# 13   10/13/2014 at 17:37 (3,454 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well, the other thing to remember Matt is that we don't know what indication the home is in for dust to start smelling out of the vacuum cleaner. It could be a number of things like a stinky hose, or perhaps the Tritex filter on board hasn't actually been washed.
Lets not forget that Average vacuum cleaner owner rarely cleans out their vacuum cleaner. Unlike collectors! |
Post# 301710 , Reply# 14   10/13/2014 at 17:43 (3,454 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Actually I have had one the new ones and I thought it was fantastic for the price but the only thing I didn't like was it was a bit clumsy.i Used to think if then machine smells It was coming out dirty silly me:). As I forgot you can turn the busbar off on the Kirby what we made my scratch the floor as it's all metal. What is the new one it looks good I might get one.:)
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Post# 301723 , Reply# 16   10/13/2014 at 18:54 (3,454 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well, you see - you'd cry if you damaged it. I can't imagine anyone who owns a Kirby and who isn't a collector would cry over a dent or a scratch. When you consider the price and durability of them, they're probably as longer lasting as a Volvo - i.e you can bash it and bash it and bash it and still, it looks like nothing has ever happened to it.
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Post# 301727 , Reply# 17   10/13/2014 at 19:03 (3,454 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 301728 , Reply# 18   10/13/2014 at 19:06 (3,454 days old) by Marks_here (_._)   |   | |
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Post# 301735 , Reply# 20   10/13/2014 at 19:33 (3,454 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 302054 , Reply# 21   10/16/2014 at 15:26 (3,451 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)   |   | |
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I still genuinely think it is incredible for people to assume the dc41 mk2 will be not as good as a Kirby when they have not used one at all. I "assume" Kirbys are good vacuums but will not say they are better or worse for sure than my dyson or sebo because I haven't used one.
Everyone who has used the dc41 mk2 has said nothing but praise for the cleaner, especially its performance. I have posted video demonstrating as best I can its agitation and suction at the head. It bouncing around rice so much that it lands on top of the head, and sucking to the carpet so much it is lifting up heavy 1 inch piled wall to wall carpets a good couple of inches form the ground. It surprising how gullible some people are, especially when this is supposed to be a vacuum enthusiast forum. |
Post# 302063 , Reply# 22   10/16/2014 at 16:15 (3,451 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I feel your pain Oli. It was like the time someone on here went on and on about SEBO uprights not agitating. Until videos were made to show it, people continued to rant on and on. Evidence has to be continually rammed home on here until people get the message, and even then some are still not convinced until they feel the darn machine in their hands and they can see the results themselves.
The Dyson may well be able to deliver on what you suggest, what you have shown and what others have since found with new purchases. Clearly people are going to learn, even when watching your videos. As for Volvo, Matt - I'm a big fan of the Swedish brand. |
Post# 302081 , Reply# 24   10/16/2014 at 19:10 (3,451 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Oli, I for one cannot comment on the DC41's performance, but I can certainly comment on Kirby. I have yet to find a vacuum that the Kirby cannot out perform, even I am shocked when my Classic III pulls a giant and unexpected smutz pile from my seemingly clean carpets! should i come across a DC41 in my travels, i will give it a fair review against Kirby, or any brand for that matter, but I cannot see the value in giving in to that high price (Frankly I don't think it's worth it for what you get, these Dysons have to cost under $100 to build in Malaysia, just because everyone else is jumping on the bandwagon for modern doesn't mean i shall too. I still live in the era of Tail-Fins and 8-Tracks! ). Based off other's opinions, I can say that the DC65 and DC41 are the best in class for bagless, in my own opinion they are not worth the price. if you pick one up for cheap off the internet or the Sears catalog, that's a different story! trust me, if Dyson wasn't crazy on prices, I would've been jumping on the bandwagon long ago! |
Post# 302141 , Reply# 25   10/17/2014 at 10:29 (3,450 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Im about to put scans on showing a very early British report from Which. It shows that the KIRBY excelled pick up tests. However, it also warns UK buyers that most testers found the model to be heavy, cumbersome and difficult to work with.
They also slate it for being quite expensive - more expensive infact than the "Kleeneze Rotork Cyclon," that was listed at £250. Now of course, so many moons later even though the Dyson may be expensive in the UK, it isn't half as expensive as a brand new Kirby upright in the UK. I can only imagine what it is like in the U.S with Dyson unless I go and research prices. All things considered, even if the Dyson is expensive to buy, it isn't half as heavy as the Kirby = some things that I know, collectors and owners are happy to put up with, but some buyers aren't. |
Post# 302164 , Reply# 26   10/17/2014 at 14:56 (3,450 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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The Kirby may be heavy, but with "Tech Drive" Power Assist, you can move it back and forth with just your little pinky finger.Tech Drive removes 90% of the effort needed to push and pull the Kirby.
Most reviewers of the Kirby are quick to mention the Kirby's weight, but they fail to mention the advantages of the Tech Drive.
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Post# 302198 , Reply# 27   10/17/2014 at 17:57 (3,450 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 361369 , Reply# 29   10/22/2016 at 16:38 (2,714 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 361378 , Reply# 30   10/22/2016 at 23:37 (2,714 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)   |   | |
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Chris, see link below for Vorwerk VK150 and VK200 energy labels. Can't find anything anywhere for Kirby though.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Spiraclean's LINK |
Post# 361820 , Reply# 31   11/1/2016 at 22:21 (2,704 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 361862 , Reply# 33   11/2/2016 at 15:59 (2,703 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 361881 , Reply# 34   11/2/2016 at 21:31 (2,703 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 362025 , Reply# 36   11/5/2016 at 15:28 (2,700 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 362030 , Reply# 37   11/5/2016 at 16:22 (2,700 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 362047 , Reply# 38   11/5/2016 at 20:10 (2,700 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 371994 , Reply# 39   5/10/2017 at 10:45 (2,514 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)   |   | |
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Post# 371995 , Reply# 40   5/10/2017 at 11:15 (2,514 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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The F rating for dust emissions is the carbon dust escaping similar to the Sebo X series.
88 dB yes it's quite noisy but a C rating for performance on carpet? That is ridiculous! The Kirby has fantastic airflow and deep cleans carpets. I would have thought if any cleaner would get an A rating it would be a Kirby |
Post# 372074 , Reply# 41   5/12/2017 at 11:28 (2,512 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Depends on the carpet. We've got the same carpet running throughout the house but the Kirby's don't like it. It's a tight woven, hard wearing pile and not much airflow can pass through it, so dirty fan vacs don't do too well in our house.
Another problem with the testing and ratings - it's impossible to rate for every house and every floortype. |
Post# 372077 , Reply# 42   5/12/2017 at 14:15 (2,512 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 372078 , Reply# 43   5/12/2017 at 14:18 (2,512 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Post# 372096 , Reply# 44   5/12/2017 at 22:01 (2,512 days old) by Tseg (World Traveller)   |   | |
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Yikes. Glad I don't own a Kirby with those ratings. :) |
Post# 372126 , Reply# 45   5/13/2017 at 13:09 (2,511 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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It is obvious that the EU testers do not know how to properly test a Kirby G series machine.
In the US Kirby earns a GOLD rating in every category from CRI (Carpet and Rug Institute). Carbon emissions from motor brushes are not included in the test as carbon is considered to be harmless in these minute amounts.
The Kirby Sentria II and Avalir have earned recognition world wide as being unbeatable in deep cleaning tests.
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Post# 372128 , Reply# 46   5/13/2017 at 13:21 (2,511 days old) by sebo4me (Cardiff)   |   | |
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Carbon emissions are included in the test. How do you differentiate between household dust particles and carbon dust particles? The vacuum cleaner is placed in a sealed unit, any particles that are exhausted will be measured. That is why it gets an F rating. The Sebo X series which has a very good S Class pre motor filter also gets an F rating because of the carbon dust escaping from the motor.
The Kirby bags do filter well though especially the allergen plus bags. I disagree with the C rating on carpet. |