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Thread Number: 26919
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| Post# 301027 10/8/2014 at 08:11 (3,485 days old) by hoover78 (dallas tx) | ||
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Hoover Convertible U4301 or Hoover Windtunnel Supreme, early late 90s early 2000s model? 
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| Post# 301028 , Reply# 1 10/8/2014 at 08:12 (3,485 days old) by hoover78 (dallas tx) | ||
Windtunnel Supreme
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| Post# 301036 , Reply# 2 10/8/2014 at 10:39 (3,485 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 301038 , Reply# 3 10/8/2014 at 11:01 (3,485 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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Convertible.. A windtunnel is a big heavy noisy hunk of plastic, the convertible, because its a dirty air machine, moves volumes more air, will last many times longer, and is much easier to use. | ||
| Post# 301067 , Reply# 4 10/8/2014 at 15:05 (3,485 days old) by Metaphor () | ||
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The view of the enthusiast vs the view of someone in the industry couldn't contrast more. | ||
| Post# 301076 , Reply# 5 10/8/2014 at 16:55 (3,485 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
I am an 
Enthusiast and have owned and been in the vacuum business for years owning over 400 vacuums of different years from old to new and I love every one but the Wimdtunnel in all it's plastic beauty will totally out clean the Convertible .
Tom is an enthusiast and in the business so he would know which would out clean who ;) Dan | ||
Post# 301081 , Reply# 6 10/8/2014 at 18:09 (3,485 days old) by bagintheback  (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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 I've used both an extremely similar Convertible and a Windtunnel Supreme in my own home and both definitely have their advantages. The Convertible is quieter, more maneuverable and far easier to service and maintain. However, the Windtunnel has greater cleaning ability at the hose which is necessary to clean stairs, crevices, cars ect. I'd say they are equals when it comes to cleaning carpet, but the Convertible might have a slight advantage on deeper pile carpeting. Both are capable of achieving the same level of filtration since Hoover has introduced Type "A" HEPA bags.
Overall, I think the Windtunnel is a better "all-in-one" cleaner, but it's a bit loud and bulky. If I had a single story home with wall-to-wall carpeting, the Convertible would be the clear choice in my opinion due to the general overall ease of use. Otherwise, with stairs to clean and lots of nooks and crannies, I lean towards the Windtunnel. It really depends on what sort of situation you are in.
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| Post# 301156 , Reply# 10 10/9/2014 at 09:54 (3,484 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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When I answered the question, I looked at it from the standpoint of the average person today. Let's take a typical mother of two, full time job, no cleaning lady. She vacuums at least once every two days, with daily 'tidying up' of the living room. The convertible has terrible suction through the hose, so it wouldn't do well on her sofa. The modern person wants the tools on board, not in the closet. As always, she will want the vacuum to clean FAST. She doesn't want to deal with broken belts (because the convertible belts are in the middle of the path of dirt). She doesn't want to 'watch out for' pennies, rocks, etc. which cause fan breakage. She definitely wants HEPA bags (although MOST people today don't want bags at all). It's not really true to say that modern plastic vacuums last a short time - remember we all said Hoover Elites were JUNK and wouldn't last, yet many are now 20 years old. The Windtunnel launched in 1995, almost 20 years ago. Most are still running, or could easily be repaired. Belts and brush rollers are still available for Windtunnels, and will be for some time to come. Convertibles are done and over with. Yesterday's cleaner. If it was New, on the shelf today, no one would buy it. I cannot see a busy modern consumer buying it. It doesn't fit in with their lives any longer, just as the wonderful Hoover 28 didn't fit into the life of the consumer who bought a new Model 65 in 1958.
So from the standpoint of Cleaning The Home, the Windtunnel would certainly clean easier, faster, and 'better' in that the customer would use it far more often and be much more satisfied. From the standpoint of an enthusiast, well, that's a different story. I prefer vintage canister vacuums to anything modern, again, as an enthusiast. | ||
| Post# 301170 , Reply# 11 10/9/2014 at 12:26 (3,484 days old) by hoover78 (dallas tx) | ||
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well said Tom..... thanks for your input and broadening my view on the whole subject. Its all true what you say. greatly appreciated :) keep up the good work.. | ||
| Post# 301207 , Reply# 12 10/9/2014 at 16:11 (3,484 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 301272 , Reply# 14 10/9/2014 at 22:31 (3,484 days old) by vintagevaclover (Athens, GA) | ||
Convertible Pic | ||
| Post# 301274 , Reply# 15 10/9/2014 at 23:00 (3,484 days old) by Hoover78 (dallas tx) | ||
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Early 80s That convertible is early 80s era.. I was referring to the windtunnel as being late 90s early 2000s | ||
| Post# 302218 , Reply# 17 10/17/2014 at 20:48 (3,476 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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BUT... Ill bet I can go back over it with the convertible, and pull more dirt out.. | ||
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Post# 302222 , Reply# 18 10/17/2014 at 22:41 (3,476 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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I've never vacuumed up pennies.
If there were any on the floor, wouldn't you see it with your headlight?
I have several Windtunnels. They ARE loud, but strong. They are all plastic, yet not a scant lighter han a Convertible. Are the tools on a Convertible strong? No. Everyone knows that. But, for everyday cleaning, they're fine. The tools themselves were well-made. I'd never make a blatant statement that no one wants bags, or that the Convertible is dead: yesterday's cleaner. It made HOOVER the great fortune it was worth. Dial-a-Matics don't have the belt in the center, are all metal, a tad clumsy, great tool suction. So, they all have their value. I'd never bash or paint all vacuums with a very wide brush. No attacks, just my opinion.... which we were all asked. | ||
| Post# 302237 , Reply# 20 10/18/2014 at 01:06 (3,476 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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Re New Model 65 Convertible! You find me one NIB and I will SHOW you someone who will buy it!!ME..LOL! | ||
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Post# 302279 , Reply# 21 10/18/2014 at 12:57 (3,475 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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I have 4 65s
2 gold, 2 pink. They STILL work. I have 4 28s They still work. Numerous Hoover cleaners have been cleaning an 11 room house here,for dacades, with no problems. Do we all want an old shake out bag? I doubt it. Some like "C" bags, others like top fill. It's been proven again and again: SERVICE your Convertible and you can get a lifetime of SERVICE out of it. The SAME can be said about your Kirbys, Royals,and other species. (Surprised I'd add that, huh?(
I believe that tons of owner's manuals (HOOVER and others) say, specifically: don't use your vacuum to pick up sharp object, coins, rocks, etc.......... let's all turn to our manuals now. | ||
| Post# 302329 , Reply# 23 10/18/2014 at 19:50 (3,475 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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Post# 302337 , Reply# 24 10/18/2014 at 20:45 (3,475 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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...and, if you all don't have one, | ||
| Post# 302344 , Reply# 25 10/18/2014 at 22:52 (3,475 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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