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Post# 29614   1/19/2008 at 19:42 (5,934 days old) by danemodsandy ()        

Oy!

I have just about worn out the Internet looking for a replacement Model L hose that meets the following requirements, to no avail:

- Good quality or genuine Aerus.
- Swivel end like original hose.
- Suction control.
- Non-electric, NOT a pigtail hose.
- NOT one of those cheap corrugated plastic hoses- I need a good hose like the genuine Aerus hose on my Diamond Jubilee.

Does anyone know where I can find such a beast?

Post# 29615 , Reply# 1   1/19/2008 at 19:57 (5,934 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Electrolux used to make a really nice replacement hose - it =was= the "corrugated" type but of very high quality vinyl, not the cheap plastic stuff you're thinking of. It was "Silverado Gray" in color, had a gray plastic pistol grip, and would swivel on both ends. I see them every now and then on eBay.

Post# 29629 , Reply# 2   1/19/2008 at 23:03 (5,934 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Charlie:

 Thanks. Even though I am anti-corrugated hoses, if you can vouch for the quality, I will look for one. Most corrugated hoses don't seem to last long, splitting in the corrugations sooner or later, usually sooner.

I wish I could find what I'm looking for, which would be a good 3-ply hose with a vinyl carcass, nylon reinforcing layer, and vinyl outer layer. And swivel. And suction control.

Sigh...

Post# 29653 , Reply# 3   1/20/2008 at 00:39 (5,934 days old) by badata ()        
danemodsandy

 i hate to say this but quality isn't important in this world anymore that's why you can't find what you are looking for. the world in now a "throw it away and buy a new one" world!! it sucks and i feel it too. if i see what you are looking for i certainly will let you know!!!!!

companies need to stop selling out to all of the foriegn countries (like hoover to china) of course that "sell out" happened long before china....hoover hasn't be hoover since the 80's....... i just wish they built stuff today like they did in the 40's to 60's... quality is NO MORE! even todays kirby's are not what they use to be unfortuately. sorry to get on my soapbox but i'm surprised that i've never actually heard this conversation here before. (about quality and newness)

Post# 29655 , Reply# 4   1/20/2008 at 01:13 (5,934 days old) by charles~richard ()        

I have to say, with the new "corrugated" hoses, the quality is much higher, and the durability much longer, than the woven hoses. Especially if they are subjected to any abuse at all.

Post# 29697 , Reply# 5   1/20/2008 at 12:54 (5,933 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Charlie:

 I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing when we mention "corrugated" hoses.

The kind I'm trying to avoid is the type that looks like a hair dryer hose, just one layer of plastic moulded into a corrugated cheap hose. You see vac hoses of this kind all over eBay, very cheaply. And you get what you pay for.

The kind of hose I like is the kind that Aerus supplies as a replacement electric hose for the 1205 through Marquis machines. It's a three-ply hose: vinyl carcass, nylon web reinforcement, and a clear vinyl outer layer. It does have corrugations, but they're due to the wire inside, they're not moulded in. What I keep hoping to find is a hose like this, in a non-electric version.

Sorry to be so particular here, but I will confess to being kinda picky about hoses. My Diamond Jubilee has three- its original woven electric hose (leaks, but great for display), plus two genuine Aerus electric hoses- one almost new and in perfect shape, for regular vacuuming. The other is older, and has a couple of small splits in its clear vinyl top layer; that one is used for dirty jobs and for times when there's a chance of damaging a good hose.

Post# 29701 , Reply# 6   1/20/2008 at 13:25 (5,933 days old) by vinvac (Dubuque IA)        

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If I get time, I will take a picture of the hose that I purchased from Aerus a couple of years ago. It is a grayish color, with the pistol grip, non-electric. It actually looks good on my model 30 Lux.

I believe Steel City sells the same hose at a much more resonable price. I paid 85.00 for the non-electric from Aerus and 135.00 for the electric pig tail version for my Models L & G.
I purchased the Steel City version for my 1205 and newer machines at a total cost of 65.00...If memory serves me correctly.

The vinyl hoses make the Lux's much more user friendly.

Mike, you are correct, there is no pride or quality in most products sold today. Build them to work the first time you plug them in and hope for the best the second time you plug them in. It amazes me how Wal-Mart and other low end stores can sell a product that looks very similar to a product sold at say at Kohls or JC Penny's, but if you check it out, it is a lower end model that is more than likely not going to hold up. Sunbeam Hand mixers are a great example...look at their web site and then compare to the version that is sold at Wal-Mart.

Just my two cents.

Morgan

Post# 29706 , Reply# 7   1/20/2008 at 14:01 (5,933 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Explanatory Photo:

 Thanks for all the answers so far! Morgan- what and where is Steel City?

Here's a photo that I hope will make it clear as to what I want- the hose on the left is the inexpensive single-ply corrugated hose I don't want. The one on the right is the triple-ply construction I'm looking for. Unfortunately, even though this hose has everything else I'm looking for, it does not swivel. A swivel hose is the greatest Lux feature ever- it makes vacuuming much easier. So, I'm trying to find one that does.

Post# 29718 , Reply# 8   1/20/2008 at 15:32 (5,933 days old) by charles~richard ()        

I knew what you were talking about -- and the gray hose that both I and Morgan mentioned is the same construction as the white hose above, but more durable and substantial, yet more flexible. The material it's made out of is amazing - almost like rubber. It's really a wonderful hose.

Post# 29719 , Reply# 9   1/20/2008 at 15:45 (5,933 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Okay, I'm sold...

 Thanks, Charlie- I didn't think it was likely that you, of all people, were confused about what I wanted, but I wanted to be sure I hadn't confused the issue.

Anyway, this hose I gotta see. If anyone has a photo, or knows of a website where it's pictured, I'd love to see it.

Post# 29727 , Reply# 10   1/20/2008 at 16:50 (5,933 days old) by logan ()        
Model L

 Sandy, what color is your L?

White, Brown, Blue or Gold?

--Logan

Post# 29732 , Reply# 11   1/20/2008 at 17:28 (5,933 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Logan:

 Mine's blue. I have the original woven hose for it, plus a PN-2 with the turquoise sheath in excellent shape. Complete set of tools, and courtesy of this list, a manual. It has the halo instead of a cordwinder; that's what I wanted. (In case anyone says, "Oh, poor Sandy- let's dig him up a cordwinder!") :-)

Right now, I'm trying to work out the hose/PN cord issues before making it my daily driver. I need to find a hose I like, and I need a set of PN cord straps- I do have the PN cord itself. I don't want to use the original hose much, because I killed the hose on my Diamond Jubilee that way. It was fine when I got the machine, but after a few months of regular use, it developed major leaks. Now it's display-only, sad to say. I am resolved not to repeat my mistake.

Post# 29734 , Reply# 12   1/20/2008 at 17:37 (5,933 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
P.S.:

 Logan:

I also have a white L, but that one needs quite a bit of work.

Post# 29739 , Reply# 13   1/20/2008 at 18:01 (5,933 days old) by vinvac (Dubuque IA)        

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Here are pictures of the three hoses referenced above.

The inside hose is the straight suction, second is the pigtail version for the L&G in my collection, the third is for the 1205 and newer. The first two came from Aerus, the third one came from Steel City. I don't order from Steel City but vac club owners that are members here do. I beleive Chuck Chatham does order from there, it would not hurt to give him a call.

Sorry for the bad picture, not sure what happened.
Morgan

Post# 29740 , Reply# 14   1/20/2008 at 18:10 (5,933 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Eureka! (If I can use that word on a Lux thread)

 Morgan:

The Steel City hose appears to be what I'm looking for. Thanks for the pic and for the folo-up.

Does anyone have contact info for Chuck Chatham?

Thanks!

Post# 29752 , Reply# 15   1/20/2008 at 21:09 (5,933 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Actually, none of those hoses are the one I was referring to! I'll have to snap a photo for you.

Post# 29765 , Reply# 16   1/21/2008 at 00:53 (5,933 days old) by charles~richard ()        
Okay, here's the hose I was talking about.

 This hose looks great with the Silverado, the gray wrinkle-finish factory-rebuilt G, and the Model F. The F less so than the others, since its gray color is not quite as bluish, but it looks nice nonetheless. (For that matter, a nice while "corrugated" hose looks nice with the F, too!)

Note the sturdy construction (it's not at all flimsy), the deluxe pistol grip, and the hefty cuffs on each end.

Post# 29766 , Reply# 17   1/21/2008 at 00:54 (5,933 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Electrolux logo on pistol grip

Post# 29767 , Reply# 18   1/21/2008 at 00:55 (5,933 days old) by charles~richard ()        

"Electrolux" lettering on both cuffs, just where the cuff inserts into the ends.

Post# 29768 , Reply# 19   1/21/2008 at 00:56 (5,933 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Inside the machine-end coupler, there is a very heavy-duty aluminum inner collar - another example of how sturdy and durable this hose is.

Post# 29802 , Reply# 20   1/21/2008 at 16:32 (5,932 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Well, I nevah!

 Maggie Hamilton, I swan!

I nevah would have believed that Electrolux made such a hose if I hadn't seen it with my own two eyes!

Seriously, Charlie, thanks- that's a most unusual hose. I especially appreciate that you went to all the trouble of photographing it, so that I'd see what you were talking about.

Post# 29803 , Reply# 21   1/21/2008 at 16:41 (5,932 days old) by logan ()        
Hose

 Sandy I have one of those hoses that Charlie showed in his pictures if you want it. Mine came off one of the commercial lux's. The only problem is it doesn't have the machine end adapter. If you can find one of those you would have a great hose.

Post# 29804 , Reply# 22   1/21/2008 at 17:17 (5,932 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Logan:

 Yes, I'd love to talk with you about that. Email me off the list (danemod AT netzero.net).

Now, does anyone have that hose end?

Post# 29825 , Reply# 23   1/21/2008 at 20:49 (5,932 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Just a comment, the hose that came with the upright ProLuxes, etc., LOOKS similar to this hose but is not the same. They're not as long, are made of flimsier material, and the pistol grip is all plastic instead of plastic and chromed steel.

This particular hose is a mystery to me. I really don't know when or why it was manufactured, except possibly as a replacement for older machines when they stopped using woven hoses (starting with the Renaissance I believe).

Post# 29826 , Reply# 24   1/21/2008 at 20:52 (5,932 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Another comment about "corrugated" vinyl hoses...

The ones that are smooth inside are far superior, as the air flows smoothly along the length of the hoses. The ones that are also ribbed inside [the cheaper, thin-wall specimens] greatly impact cleaning efficiency, as the air has to force its way across those many rows of "ribbing" -- the airflow gets disrupted and broken up, so it's not the same constant stream --- thus both air flow and air power are reduced.

Post# 29837 , Reply# 25   1/21/2008 at 22:30 (5,932 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
And so...

 ...We bring to a close another thread where Charlie Lester has brought wisdom, cheer, and explicit photos to bear on the thorniest problem known to Vacuumland- an Electrolux collecting question.

Join us tomorrow as we bring you another chapter of "As The Brush Roll Turns", brought to you by Mother Marcus's Kreplach Mix. Remember- Mrs. Marcus knows from kreplach- because she's a real mother!

* Cue organ music *

Post# 29840 , Reply# 26   1/21/2008 at 22:46 (5,932 days old) by charles~richard ()        

P.S. Logan somewhere along the way you mentioned Roanoke and yes, my family did indeed live near Rocky Mount, not too far from Roanoke.

We lived in a rural area called Sontag - you couldn't even call it a town as such, unless you call "downtown" a country store with post office inside, right out of Hooterville!

I attended Snow Creek Elementary School for the first grade, then in 2nd grade transferred to Sontag Elementary. The latter was a brand-new school (completed in 1963), whereas Snow Creek was, at the time, a very old one-room school. Still had the oak desks with inkwells and oiled wooden floors! My parents thought the new Sontag Elementary would afford better educational opportunities.

Post# 29847 , Reply# 27   1/22/2008 at 06:16 (5,931 days old) by logan ()        
Charlie

 My uncle still has a huge farm in Sontag, VA. Small world isn't it?

Hey in a post above you said regarding the Lux Hose "I really don't know when or why it was manufactured."

Weren't these hoses manufactured for the commercial machines and the older style uprights? I could swear someone told me that once.

I found mine at a yardsale...

Post# 29850 , Reply# 28   1/22/2008 at 06:41 (5,931 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Who would guess that some of those "corrugated" hoses hamper air flow like they do? I'm glad that was pointed out.

Post# 29862 , Reply# 29   1/22/2008 at 11:12 (5,931 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Hi Logan, I had assumed that the gray "corrugated" Lux hose was made as a replacement hose - the upright machines have a different machine-end coupler, and none of the ones I have seen have had the chrome insert. And they've all been of a flimsier material. As for the commercial machines, those hoses were much longer -- something like 10 or 11 feet long (but of the same durable material and construction). This one I'm talking about is the standard length. So to me it's a bit of a mystery. AFAIK this hose was never sold as "standard equipment" with any model of Electrolux so I am not sure about its origin.

P.S. So Sontag is still mostly farmland then? Glad to know some things haven't changed! We lived right on what was then-called Route 2. I still remember our address -- "Route 2, Rocky Mount, Virginia, 24151" (Sontag did not have an official post office so all Sontag mail addresses fell within Rocky Mount). My dad was the pastor of Beulah Baptist Church, and the parsonage where we lived was across the street.

The General Store was "up the road a-piece" from the church. I don't remember the name of the store but the man who ran it was named Mitchell. Wonder if it is still there. The "post office" there sold stamps but did not receive or deliver mail. Our mail came from the Rocky Mount post office. Whenever we wanted to mail a package we had to "go into town."

If you're ever in that neck of the woods, take your camera with you to get some photos --- of the church, parsonage, general store if it's still there, the RED dirt!! The church address is 4220 Sontag Rd, Rocky Mount, so I guess Route 2 was renamed Sontag Road at some point. btw I also still remember our phone number - 483-4151!

And a bit of interesting trivia -- it was while we lived in Sontag that zip codes were introduced. I remember that very clearly - mostly a lot of people fretting and fussing about having to learn and remember the new number codes!

Post# 29898 , Reply# 30   1/22/2008 at 16:56 (5,931 days old) by logan ()        

Hi Charlie! Yes, Sontag, VA is still mostly farmland. I was thinking about it today at work and I only know of one stop light in the whole area. Definately small town stuff down there!

It's a beautiful place and yes the dirt is still RED RED RED! Most of southern Virginia has that red clay mud...you can just imagine how hard it is to get that kind of stain out of white/beige carpets...VERY HARD!

Post# 29901 , Reply# 31   1/22/2008 at 17:19 (5,931 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Red dirt ... maybe that's why most of the ladies in my dad's church had glistening hard-wood floors instead of carpeting -- and maybe THAT is why so few households in that area had uprights. By FAR, most people had Electroluxes. I remember one lady who had a Kirby (late red series), and one lady who had a very old straight-suction Health-mor that she always used with the hose, and that's IT! Everyone else I can remember had Electroluxes, from XXX to F!

Post# 29923 , Reply# 32   1/22/2008 at 18:37 (5,931 days old) by logan ()        

The lady only used the Health-more vacuum with the hose? What did she do? Get down on her hands and knees and run the hose end across the floor? LOL

Post# 29934 , Reply# 33   1/22/2008 at 19:01 (5,931 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Well no, hehehh, I meant, she never used it as an upright with the large rug nozzle, but instead with the hose attached and then the wand and floor attachment.

Post# 29938 , Reply# 34   1/22/2008 at 19:19 (5,931 days old) by logan ()        

Oh duh...lol


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