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What vacuums do you HATE to work on... |
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Post# 299509 , Reply# 2   9/23/2014 at 20:31 (3,495 days old) by marks_here (_._)   |   | |
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I haven't had a dam open before, the concepts are pretty easy, brush rolls can be tricky as I revamped my concept one the bearings were filthy took them out, cleaned them in a jar of mineral spirits over night, dried them then oiled them (not dw40 but sewing machine oil) & it now works splendidly! Now royals I haven't I did one but there was that red square thingy that attached to the wires on the motor, forgot to put it back...BOOM so from that point on I stay away from them. I have a Hoover Slimline & Portable that are working good & thanks to Fred on here gave me support on how to open them up. Electrolux I did one once but wired it wrong & it spun in the wrong direction. Haven't tried any new ones because they are all disposable so why put forth the effort.
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Post# 299549 , Reply# 3   9/24/2014 at 11:36 (3,495 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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I hate working on Rainbows. That being said, the fact that I worked on them for more than 25 years, and could rebuild one with my eyes closed, doesn't make them easier. Every Rainbow service man needs a blow torch and a sledge hammer to get them apart.
By far the worst vacuum to rebuild ever, is the Filter Queen model 200. There's more damn screws in that thing. Unnecessarily complex and over engineered. As far as modern cleaners go, the Die Soon DC28 is the worst. Cleans well and is a fascinating machine, but hell to work on. So is the first "ball" model - DC15. Horrible. |
Post# 299565 , Reply# 4   9/24/2014 at 13:04 (3,495 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Hoover Dimension 1000 canisters are a lot of parts to remove to access motor area. They are time consuming for cleaning.
Two of my friends got stuck working on a Dial A Matic once and I had to figure it out. It was tricky- they gave me all of the screws and everything from scratch to figure out. It was funny!! This machine would be Contemporary Forum but since the question was asked: Many newer market machines like bagless Eureka Altimas from around 10 years ago are awful to take apart just because of how filthy they are. Every part you remove is filthy, even areas like the headlight which is completely separate from motor housing and air ducts. |
Post# 299566 , Reply# 5   9/24/2014 at 13:12 (3,495 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I love old Hoover Juniors especially the "last classic" U1104 but its the U1104 that seems to get me into trouble. When getting into the faceplate, the pin that holds the combo release and power on button always slips out and gets lost. A gentle, slow and patient mind is often required with the old Hoovers.
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Post# 299571 , Reply# 6   9/24/2014 at 14:02 (3,495 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I was discussing this with my two Technicians, Robert and Sam.
They don't really work on vintage machines that's my department, and it would be the Hoover Junior. Concept one for all its cir clips
On Modern machines we all agreed any of the new Electrolux /AEG Ultra ones,Ultra active and Ultra performer's. Its impossible to open the machine without leaving some scaring on the body while trying to remove clipped in covers or cord/switch buttons.
However our most hated modern machine would be the AEG/Electrolux twin clean. Too many sensors circuit boards and little air tubes that can be easily pinched in re assembly and rendering the machine useless. Great machine but oh when one comes into our workshop I run the other way |
Post# 299614 , Reply# 7   9/24/2014 at 19:25 (3,494 days old) by s31463221 (Frenchburg, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 299638 , Reply# 8   9/24/2014 at 22:19 (3,494 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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I hate working on Dysons! You can't take the cyclone apart, and that's all I clean when I get one in for refurbishment! I don't even WANT to know what it takes to get into a ball model!
That being said, Fantoms are far easier to completely break-down for service. Convertibles, too,but I rarely encounter a Convertible that needs anything besides a good cleaning! I wonder why! |
Post# 299640 , Reply# 9   9/24/2014 at 22:21 (3,494 days old) by Marks_here (_._)   |   | |
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Post# 299654 , Reply# 10   9/24/2014 at 22:39 (3,494 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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The next Convertible I get I will send it to you to fix!!! |
Post# 299777 , Reply# 11   9/25/2014 at 20:20 (3,493 days old) by daknx1994 (Southern Indiana)   |   | |
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Believe me, you do not want to know what it takes to get into a ball model Dyson. They are a pain in the you know what. Dyson's are the one vacuum I hate to work on. Way to complicated to get to certain components. |
Post# 299783 , Reply# 12   9/25/2014 at 20:37 (3,493 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 299815 , Reply# 13   9/26/2014 at 03:07 (3,493 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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Post# 299820 , Reply# 14   9/26/2014 at 05:41 (3,493 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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How about a sledge hammer! |
Post# 299825 , Reply# 16   9/26/2014 at 08:27 (3,493 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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I once acquired a Hoover Dial-a-Matic that was in good shape, but all the foam insulation in it was rotten. I just about lost my Jesus getting that thing back together!
Rainbows can be a real challenge too if they haven't been maintained, especially with the D3 and D2 models. If they've been properly maintained, they're fairly straightforward. |
Post# 299826 , Reply# 17   9/26/2014 at 09:11 (3,493 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I think it has a lot to do with how often you work in them, although SOME ( especially water filtration machines have a tendency to rust shut)
I can tear down and rebuild a dyson dc25 in 15 min. Actually 14.5min. Total strip down and re assembly. I had a bet with my two techs who could do it faster. I won. (We were using power drivers though)
I worked on a assembly line when I was 16 at Electrolux in my Holidays. you learn how to work fast but properly.
When I first got into vacuum repair I worked at a company called Lanzon services in Wynberg in Cape Town. It is a older suburb and many of the residence still used Hoover Convertibles ( 652 here ) and Seniors ( closed hood 652 ) The most common fault was dry or worn bearings. We would do an overhaul incuding brush roll bearings and brush strips, carbon brushes , New bottom bearing and clean and re oil the sleeve bearing + a general scrub down and clean. I never timed myself but I could do 8 - 10 after lunch till home time ( 12 -4.45 pm ) Having the right tools and space made all the difference. I also never worked on just one but had as many as needed repair on seperate stations at the same time. |
Post# 299842 , Reply# 18   9/26/2014 at 14:06 (3,493 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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Post# 299871 , Reply# 19   9/26/2014 at 19:32 (3,492 days old) by sries (Tacoma WA)   |   | |
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Post# 299890 , Reply# 21   9/27/2014 at 02:06 (3,492 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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Post# 299987 , Reply# 22   9/28/2014 at 03:06 (3,491 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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It's funny you mention the 7,14 & 17 models, I've worked on and owned all of those! The 14 had to be the easiest, the cyclone assembly came apart by screws, not by welding! Fantom was easier, the cyclone was one easy-to-clean piece! Orecks (ESPECIALLY the XL1, XL2 and the 9100 series) I can do blindfolded AND with one hand! I love them! |
Post# 300108 , Reply# 23   9/29/2014 at 13:36 (3,490 days old) by citroenbx (england)   |   | |
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Post# 300467 , Reply# 26   10/3/2014 at 03:06 (3,486 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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I'd rather dig a bullet out of my own arm than to work on a cheap explosive plastic vac! Check this out and you'll see what I mean! Liam Neeson and Pierce Brosnan, two great Irish actors in Seraphim falls...one fantastic movie, a cinema delight! Well anyhow, this is exactly how I feel when I see a wretched plastic vac, and you know what they all say, " A picture tells a thousand words." Now it is time to enjoy my pain, so pop some popcorn and have a respite at my expense, and oh yeah...enjoy! CLICK HERE TO GO TO cb123's LINK |
Post# 300516 , Reply# 27   10/3/2014 at 16:21 (3,486 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 300528 , Reply# 29   10/3/2014 at 17:46 (3,486 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 300615 , Reply# 30   10/4/2014 at 16:31 (3,485 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)   |   | |
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Alex, I only caught shrapnel once, I'm just so glad that it did not come from a cheap explosive plastic vac! I'm sure I would've gotten the green rot and that would've been all she wrote! I'd be sighing off for another broadcast day and they wouldn't be singing " Oh, say can you see " but they would playing Taps as a dirge for my requiem...softly, sadly. This post was last edited 10/04/2014 at 20:31 |
Post# 300728 , Reply# 32   10/5/2014 at 17:59 (3,484 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)   |   | |
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Post# 300762 , Reply# 33   10/5/2014 at 22:46 (3,483 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 300812 , Reply# 34   10/6/2014 at 09:51 (3,483 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I think if you know what you are doing no vacuum will be hard to work on, Just frustrating.
I hate working on big commercial wet& dry vacuums and scrubbers that have been used in the floor stripping and sealing industry. The chemicals they use ( especially in the Concrete and tile resurfacing industry) can be very corrosive They rust bolts and screws shut. a Simple 20 min job now takes 90 min because of having to cut out bolts that are not easy to access. Its not hard its just time consuming and in my workshop that means money consuming. Carpet washers are also machines I dislike working on because people leave the water in them its goes moldy , They often smell and are normally full of fatty deposits they lift off carpets. Not hard but YUCK |