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My new eco Henry HVR 200-A2
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Post# 296871   9/3/2014 at 13:44 (3,494 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

I won't bore you all to death too much, I'm sure we all know the basics about Henry, however they have made some interesting changes.

Firstly the motor is now only 580 watts down from the previos versions 1200. The motor sound is quieter than previous Henry machines I have owned and the suction is still just as strong! I'm amazed at how much suction it manages to produce given the low power input. I have the Airo brush (turbo brush) for it too and it spins it powerfully, even on plush carpet. The motor sound, although quieter than previous versions, has the traditional quality sound to it that we come to expect from Numatic. It's more of a quiet hum and definately not a high pitched whine.

It's also worth noting that the motor produces almost no heat. I can vacuum the entire house from top to bottom in one go and the exhaust air is barely above room temp!! I guess that this is due to the motor running slower with the lower electrical intake? Either way I've never known a clean air machine run so cold.

The main body of the machine is the same as the previous version regarding the bin and filter. Numatic have gone back to the simple on/off switch design and dropped the high/low setting switch - something that pleases me greatly as it will surely help boost the already fantasic reliability of these machines. It's also one less thing to go wrong. I mean you can't get any simpler than a motor with an on/off switch can you? They've stuck a 'power on' indicator light in place of the high/low switch... something that reminds me of the very first Vax machines.

The underside of the motor housing is slightly different, and the fan chamber of the motor looks more of a dome shape. This probably partly explains how they have halved the motor power and retained the same suction power.

The floor tool is different too. It reminds of a Miele floor head and works SO much better than previous Henry floor heads. I'm a little dissapointed to see a plastic base plate on it though given the machine is designed for commercial use. It will be interesting to see how the new nozzle stands up to commercial use and I dare say they will at some point start fitting a stainless steel base to the new style floor tool. Either way the new style floor head does a fantastic job and I'm really really pleased with the results it gives. It really sticks to the carpet! I'm finding I dont really feel the need to use the Airo Brush.

The small tools are the same as previos versions.

One thing that has changed though. Something I've only ever seen on cylinder Sebo machines before, is the hose!

Can you tell from the pictures?

It starts off as the 'normal' width at the working end and gets wider as it nears the machine. Sebo call this a cone shaped hose and claim it improves suction and reduces blockages. There is no mention of this as a feature from Numatic, however it is a good feature that helps explain how the suction is so high from the low power input. It's as if the power is being funnelled down the hose to the floor tool.

That's about all I can think of really so here are a load of pictures...


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Post# 296874 , Reply# 1   9/3/2014 at 14:03 (3,494 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Nice. Very similar to the John Lewis John and Lewis models.

But does this new Henry come with the Airobrush as standard or did you have a spare one yourself?


Post# 296881 , Reply# 2   9/3/2014 at 14:25 (3,494 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

No I already had a new Airo Brush... However it comes as standard with the HenryXtra

Post# 296882 , Reply# 3   9/3/2014 at 14:27 (3,494 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

My local Asda has this model on sale for £95, though it's more online. They originally had the old 1200 watt model which sold out and I was surprised to see the new version at the same price. My Asda only sells the Henry during a Home Event and if any are left when the event is ending, they get reduced again, so I'll keep my eyes on that and I may get a bargain.


Post# 296884 , Reply# 4   9/3/2014 at 14:39 (3,494 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Yeah I paid £95 for mine from our local cash and carry.
They had a bulk load of them with the new version mixed in with the old version


Post# 296888 , Reply# 5   9/3/2014 at 14:43 (3,494 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
ASDA

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Will the £95 offer be on at any ASDA that has a Home Event on?


Post# 296890 , Reply# 6   9/3/2014 at 15:06 (3,494 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

I think the home event is nationwide, so check your local Asda to see what they have in.


Post# 296891 , Reply# 7   9/3/2014 at 15:16 (3,494 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)        
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I've tried the Asda website but it keeps relocating me to the George website, so I will have to pop in at some point. Thanks for the head's up.


Post# 296892 , Reply# 8   9/3/2014 at 15:19 (3,494 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

Asda Direct have a home sale on, but the Henry is not in it online, only in store.


Post# 296900 , Reply# 9   9/3/2014 at 15:41 (3,494 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

The Dyson DC08 has the 'cone' shaped hose too, it is really thick where it enters the bin


Post# 296904 , Reply# 10   9/3/2014 at 15:57 (3,494 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        

I have to say that I am impressed by the clear, concise, colour instruction manual. Well done, Numatic.

Post# 296910 , Reply# 11   9/3/2014 at 16:26 (3,494 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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I love numatic. I have massive respect for them for still producing thier producs, and thier beloved Henrys in England! And they dont just assemble them here, they are near 100% made here. They process the plastic pellets for the bodies, the bearings, the stainless steel, not to mention the motors and everything else. I am glad to see the union jack on the boxes and instructions. Basically a bonus that thier vacuums are beautifully built and incredibly reliable. A great video on Numatics factory below, talking about how manufacturing in Chard is more efficient than in the far east, due to quick deliveries and so on;
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/daveha...

Due to the BBC coverage, Numatic say their recognition and sales were boosted!;
www.chardandilminsternews.co.uk/n...

Also about Numatic testing. Really funny to see those Henrys going round and round and getting disy ahahha!




As regards the hose being similar to SEBO, I would be surprised if there is a tie up some how with SEBO and Numatic. Both are similar companies in the sense they specialise in the more commercial aspect of cleaning, they also make their products in the country of origin. The only reason I say this is because there is a couple of Numatic upright vacuums which are SEBO G2 and G3 (or G1's, not too sure). Numatic are big in Germany, enough to dedicate a website which looks nicer than the English version !

www.numatic.de/produkte/numatic37...

They seem like a very legitimate, genuine company that are more content with giving people a nice product rather than making massive profit. Under £100 for a British built vacuum at that quality is a steal and many people would be happy to pay more than that I am sure. I love my George and am seriously thinking of getting one of these new models. Looks like a nice machine dude. Hope you are happy with him ! If only they would make a power nozzle version, an updated one from the Henry hound.


Post# 296923 , Reply# 12   9/3/2014 at 17:42 (3,494 days old) by seamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
The Floor tool.....

It's odd it has a plastic base- my John and Lewis are both stainless....
Seamus


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Post# 296942 , Reply# 13   9/3/2014 at 19:03 (3,494 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

I'm definitely buying one of these new Henry's now, just when you think Numatic can't make them any better, they do! 😛

Post# 296967 , Reply# 14   9/3/2014 at 21:58 (3,494 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

The cone shaped hose that's wider at the cleaner end is nothing new. Hoover used it on their early Sensory machines too.


Post# 297013 , Reply# 15   9/4/2014 at 08:32 (3,493 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Oli - Its a SEBO 370 - Numatic are obviously being given permission to use SEBO's vacuums in Germany - it reiterates SEBO's private label distribution such as with WIndsor in the U.S and older Karcher uprights as well as cleaning companies.

Have a look at previous thread where I commented on the same Numatic models/German website www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...


Post# 297020 , Reply# 16   9/4/2014 at 09:25 (3,493 days old) by DesertTortoise ()        

I thought Numatic vacs used Lamb motors?

Post# 297128 , Reply# 17   9/5/2014 at 04:54 (3,492 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The plastic Wessel Werk floor head that is supplied with this new Henry is similar to the plastic ones that SEBO have been including with their basic SEBO K1 series for many years. I find it very durable, so I don't think you'll be losing out much over the stainless steel version. Infact, you might find it a great deal easier to push along the floor with.

Post# 297156 , Reply# 18   9/5/2014 at 11:26 (3,492 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Also the Wessel Werk head was used on the Vax Zen models too.

Post# 297171 , Reply# 19   9/5/2014 at 14:11 (3,492 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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I have the Lewis version as I like the colour and he's a bit different to the run of the mill red Henry. Personally I have cleaned the house twice with him and find it too much like hard work, bulky, gets stuck on funiture and I think the suction is rather lackluster although it only a small motor I suppose. Plus points are he is quiet but I think my UltraOne is quiter and my Miele too and they can be turned up the odd time you need a little more power. One last thing push fit tubes I do not like mine feel rather loose!

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Post# 297405 , Reply# 20   9/7/2014 at 10:57 (3,490 days old) by NumaticBasil ()        
Hose

Hi! Very very nice Numatic you have there! Great purchase and I'm sure Henry will serve you for a very long time.

As for the hose, it kind of is similar to the one on my Yellow HVR200A, it definitely looks much newer than my HET200A. Must be something Numatic developed over the last 2-3 years.


Brandon.


Post# 297501 , Reply# 21   9/8/2014 at 03:46 (3,490 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

While a Miele or something else might be easier to wheel around obstacles, they would not be suited to what I want this machine for. It's for jobs I don't want to gunk my new kirby up on. So far it has seen daily use in our house, its vacuumed a large Saxon era church and has also cleaned 3 cars. I had to change the bag yesterday and I've not even had it a week! It's a machine that is desined and intended for commercial use, and from time to time thats exactly what it is going to see. Not had an issue with the stainless steel tubes feeling loose so maybe yours are faulty Ultraperformer?

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Post# 297514 , Reply# 22   9/8/2014 at 08:59 (3,489 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Why not use the DC07 Animal or DC07 Origin?

Post# 297518 , Reply# 23   9/8/2014 at 09:21 (3,489 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        

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Well, speaking as someone who has owned a LOT of vacuums over the years and a die hard upright fan I have to say I love my Lewis that I got in June. I've had no trouble at all with the extension tubes coming apart and find the suction more than adequate. The airobrush is one of the best air driven tools I've used as is the carpet/hard floor tool. I did buy a mini turbo brush from Amazon to use with mine as I have a cat who seems to cast his body weight in fur every day. Even my partner likes Lewis, no mean feat as he has grumbled about every other vacuum in some way or another. I think Lewis will be a member of our little family for sometime yet :-)

Post# 297521 , Reply# 24   9/8/2014 at 09:30 (3,489 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Why not use the DC07 Animal or DC07 Origin?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, Matt, but I'm guessing Tayyab that he didn't usse the DC07's because the Henry is a far better vacuum AND because Matt wanted a chance to test out his new machine.

Post# 297527 , Reply# 25   9/8/2014 at 09:59 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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I Think the dc07 would clean better but I would definitely rather have the Henry and one thing I hate about turbo brushes as they slow down when you put them on flooring and And the Henry's is not too bad for that but the best her by brush is the Dysons it actually speeds up when it hits the floor is it never slows down it does a great job but I do like Henry I think I'm definitely going to get one

Post# 297590 , Reply# 26   9/8/2014 at 17:00 (3,489 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Actually, the DC07 is capable of commercial use, as how matt has demonstrated, and FYI I have used my Dc14 for lasted dusty, and it never burnt out, same with my dc08 origin which uses the same motor, but without a spindle, and that one has been kept outside for four moths, in the snow, been used for plaster, sawdust, gravel, you name it. And it has been bashed around, and that thing still worked fine.
I would rather use a DC07 than a Henry for commercial use, because the peter ones, and dysons nowadays dont suffer from snapping plastics, they are flexible, so are almost importable to break under normal use, or even commercial.
Yes hey are designed for domestic use, but Dyson can work better.
Dyson say dont vacuum up water, but you can.
Dyson say dont use for commercial use, but you can.


Post# 297591 , Reply# 27   9/8/2014 at 17:02 (3,489 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Plus I am not hating Henry, I used to hate Henry till I used my Aunties 2012 Eco Henry, and was impressed. They do last, and have good durable motors, so no prob there in terms of lasting.

Post# 297595 , Reply# 28   9/8/2014 at 17:22 (3,489 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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You can vacuum water in a Dyson, just like you can clean up an asbestos spill with a straw. They're both terrible ideas. You're basing Dyson's wet/dry capabilities from a dangerous youtube video. What happens when that water reaches the cyclones? Ruined motors,a huge shock hazard (don't touch the water, it'll be like licking the wand of an Lewyt Electronic), and worst of all, MOLD. With all the junk those Dysons fail to filter from the air, the last thing you want is the cyclones becoming a mold farm because somebody thought their Dyson could be used on water.

 

Please, by 'flexible' you must mean 'poor quality plastics that could snap at any moment', the last vacuum I would a want in a commercial setting is a Dyson. Don't tell me they're nearly impossible to break under normal use, you've seen just how much that certain DC24 has broken in it's short lifespan. This Henry will be cleaning rugs long after the DC07 is failing to decompose in a landfill.


Post# 297599 , Reply# 29   9/8/2014 at 17:42 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Post# 297601 , Reply# 30   9/8/2014 at 17:42 (3,489 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Can we please stop banging on about Dyson?

Matt - did you get a tool bag with the new "eco" Henry? Or perhaps a clip for any of the tools to store on the body?

Personally Im deciding on whether I want a new Henry or the John Lewis models.



Post# 297604 , Reply# 31   9/8/2014 at 17:52 (3,489 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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You bet I don't have any of the new ones, Dyson isn't getting my cash until he builds a vacuum that doesn't bend itself while in use! Why on earth would you want to vacuum with such a thing, you couldn't go 2 minutes without hearing plastic creek! 

 

Unfortunately Sebo Fan, the Dyson vs. (Pretty much every other brand) war has been going on since the dawn of Dyson, and it has no end in sight! surprised


Post# 297607 , Reply# 32   9/8/2014 at 18:05 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Post# 297614 , Reply# 33   9/8/2014 at 18:56 (3,489 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I don't know who you are referring to but WATCH IT.

And I do wish you would learn to put full stops after each sentence. This topic is about Matt's new Henry eco vacuum cleaner. One would assume that since you have been on this forum long enough, you'd learn to stay on topic.


Post# 297618 , Reply# 34   9/8/2014 at 19:06 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Sorry sebo fan I was not referring to you It was for super sweeper and i hard enough to write messages site is very hard to put four stops as I i've got A learning disability Cut me some slack.i'm not the one who's gone off topic i've just reply to someone's apply that I find not very nice i'll go back to the same and ignore super sweeper. but I I apologise :)

Post# 297619 , Reply# 35   9/8/2014 at 19:07 (3,489 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Ok...

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I wasn't aware of your learning difficulty - sorry. But I am also dyslexic so having to read a full paragraph without full stops is quite difficult for me!



Post# 297620 , Reply# 36   9/8/2014 at 19:13 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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I've got dyslexia as well. I can't read very well at all I my computer reads everything for me.

Post# 297643 , Reply# 37   9/8/2014 at 22:49 (3,489 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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I'm not intending to offend anyone, I'm merely stating my own opinion. I can respect that you like Dyson, but I do not share your views. I'll leave the conversation off here, back to Matt's wonderful new Henry! laughing


Post# 297657 , Reply# 38   9/9/2014 at 03:40 (3,489 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Well! Ladies! Whats going on here then? Handbags at dawn? haha

To answer a few of your questions and comments....

No, the new Henry didn't come with one of the canvas shopping bags. He came with the standard 4 spare dust bags but that was about it. Not to worry though as I have a Henry shopping bag boxed away with my Numatic George.

I've had George for about 5 - 6 years now roughly? He was initially bought for the sole jobe of washing carpets as at the time we had two dogs.
On the grand scale of things given the time I have owned him he has had very little use. I've never really used him for dry use, apart from a short period that I used him for vacuuming the cars, as I find him too clumbersome and noisy for dry use. Superb machine all the same. 90% of his working hours so far have been for wet use, however he rarely gets used now as I prefer my Kirby Sentria2 for shampooing.

Our carpets are all pretty new and have no visible soiling, hence the Kirby system is more than enough for routine cleaning. I'm keeping the George though for things like wet cleaning the car footwells or any heavy jobs that require an extraction machine... for example one of the cats decied to go pee-pee behind the TV not so long back - George to the rescue!

The new Henry does have the standard clip by the exhaust outlet to hold one of the small tools, for example the dursting brush... Its not someting that I really use though and is not something I would miss if it were to be removed.


A lot of the comments above say 'the user has deleted this comment', so I can't read ALL of what has gone on, however to answer some of the Dyson questions...

The DC07 Origin is mine. It is currently at the back of the garden shed and isn't the most healthy machine in the world. In fact its pretty beat up and I'm teetering on the edge of binning it. I think it actually has about 2 years warranty left, however the condition is so poor I don't think its even worth trying to sell if I do decide to get rid of it. Maybe I'll get Dyson out to put a new motor in it (bearings are noisy) and keep it for any future MAJOR building work clean up jobs. Either way it owes me nothing at all.

The churches DC07 Animal is roughly 6 - 7 years old now, and as such is doing the typical Dyson 'thing' where the performance starts to drop off for no specific reason. Ideally it could probably use a new brush roll, new clutch or belts in the clutch and a new HEPA filter. All in all it's not really economical bothering with it given the high level of use and abuse it has had. It does them for surface cleaning and they're happy with it, so it will no doubt soldier on for a while yet.

And yes, the Henry is a LOT easier to use in the church when you're vacuuming for two hours solid darting between pews and vacuuming cobwebs from the stained glass windows ect



Post# 297658 , Reply# 39   9/9/2014 at 03:44 (3,489 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

And for anybody wondering what a dursting brush is... it's actually a dusting brush LOL can't believe I missed that typo!

Post# 297661 , Reply# 40   9/9/2014 at 04:08 (3,489 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Can we please stop banging on about Dyson?

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AMEN TO THAT! Thank God you said that before I did, Nar :P.

Seriously, does every single friggin' conversation have to have friggin' Dyson injected into it at high speed by the same friggin' people every friggin' time? That's too many friggin's, but you get what I mean.

Slightly disapointing that Numatic no longer include the handy tool bag. Does anyone know if you can still buy it online?


Post# 297663 , Reply# 41   9/9/2014 at 04:17 (3,489 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

Yeah its a shame about the canvas bags as they're really handy for keeping all the extra tools and spare bags in...

Can anybody remember when Henry used to come with a Henry baseball cap?

If you can find one of these caps you should totally get one Chris... might help hide that hair-do of yours :p bahahahah MEEEEOOOOWWWWWWWWWW lmao



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Post# 297677 , Reply# 42   9/9/2014 at 08:37 (3,488 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Matt, you're only jealous because my hair line isn't way off in the distance like yours is ;)

Post# 297688 , Reply# 43   9/9/2014 at 10:48 (3,488 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Erm, no super sweeper, I have ALWAYSused dyson to suck upo water, models DC01 to DC25 so egg your facts right, please...

Post# 297690 , Reply# 44   9/9/2014 at 11:04 (3,488 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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And there we go again, boys and girls, the same members throwing Dyson into the conversation where they don't need to be.

It's not recommended to suck water up with a Dyson, Tayyab. Mostly because the minute the water hits the top cyclones, it's going to get the filter wet and suck through into the motor. And then what? BANG. You should know that.

Having said that, you did just tell someone to "egg your facts right" and there's so much wrong with the sentence, I don't even know where to start. Gives a good insight into the level of intellectuals we have posting on here, doesn't it?


Post# 297695 , Reply# 45   9/9/2014 at 11:40 (3,488 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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as I don't want to keep on going on about Dyson super sweeper just keep on going on saying how Dyson is crap any does it in every single thing even know it's not about Dyson anyone has their opinion but Best not to say it wouldn't hurt other people Offend them He just does not stop i will ignore super sweeper and his and not very Nice comments against dyson and I apologise and lupus we park if you see this you please stop with the Dyson hating I know you don't like them but you just continue and continue to say when everyone knows other people don't like Dyson but I don't continually says bad things about them on every single thread so please and again I apologise always try not to respond comments about Dyson and try and stick to the same but sometimes I just can't so again I apologise to turbo 500 and Sebo fan and matt8808

Post# 297701 , Reply# 46   9/9/2014 at 12:31 (3,488 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Congrats on your new Henry! That hose is interesting, I've never seen another one like it supplied with a Numatic.

 

Joe


Post# 297706 , Reply# 47   9/9/2014 at 13:13 (3,488 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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To my knowledge, a lot of those AA/ recovery motoring companies who help out motorists that inadvertently fill up their petrol led cars with diesel by mistake (and vice versa) and also the TA, swear by Numatics vacs that can suck out the fuel from car tanks. Of course one would imagine that it might be a Charles but also that the filter/motor would be properly protected.

Not that I am suggesting anything about sucking up fuel with a Dyson. I think any liquid and any electrical appliance is utter madness UNLESS the design purposefully allows liquid pick up, and even then you may still have to take precautions.


Post# 297710 , Reply# 48   9/9/2014 at 13:35 (3,488 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)        

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Goodness me, Parwaz786, you seem very hostile. You seem to only go on about dyson, yet this is a vacuum forum, not a dyson forum so have a little input in other makes of vacuums. Dysons, like Apple products (no mention of the new iPhone 6 anyone ;) are incredibly over priced and over rated. They are not terrible and some of their designs are quite thoughtful, but they are very over priced and the owners of the companies are quite corrupt and dis-honest to their customers, but hey, like beats headphones, because it is "a dyson" with fancy packaging a letter written on the side of the box so you know its a state of the art product, it must be fantastic.

Anyways, I love how we are all referring to our Numatics as he's and she's. I am going to get a John or Lewis in John lewis tomorrow as I need something tough and easy to use on my garage as it gets dusty through sanding and a few cobwebs etc, also be good for doings the cars I guess. Glad you like it ! And they are also British everything! Built, design and manufactured !!


Post# 297712 , Reply# 49   9/9/2014 at 13:42 (3,488 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Parwaz,

Now you and I do get on very well but please. This is not about Dyson. If you want to go ahead and suck up water. & use a Dyson for commercial use then go ahead. They won't cover it under warranty. You have seen my experience with their machines. Enough said on that one mister.

That Henry looks amazing and I took am impressed they are produced in the UK in sunny Somerset, though I'd still like them even if produced in the Far East as the quality would be fine I'm sure. It's just knowing they invest in the UK factory force gives it that edge for me. These machines are incredibly robust and the suction is amazing for such a low wattage machine. Well done to Numatic for producing a lovely machine. That video clip is interesting too! I do remember a little kid being scared of those big eyes and smiley face ha ha ;))


Post# 297736 , Reply# 50   9/9/2014 at 18:15 (3,488 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I do like your Henry, indeed, hope it provides you with many years of trouble free service, enjoy.
Tayyab


Post# 297785 , Reply# 51   9/9/2014 at 22:29 (3,488 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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That Henry cap is ADORABLE!....I feel as if I lost some of my manly-ness by saying that! laughing

 

I don't think Dyson is a bad guy, but I also don't think his products live up to their expectations. I have yet to try a newer model, and rely on others experiences with them, and my own experiences with the Dysons I have owned in the past. The DC07, The DC14 and the DC17 all failed to impress me. I don't hate Dyson, hate is a strong word. Part of me wants to go out there and buy the latest Dyson, to see what they are like for myself. But another part of me wants to stay loyal to the Kirbys, Hoovers and etc. That has served me right in the past.

 

..back to Nunatic, using the vacuum as a tank-emptier sounds like as bad an idea as the Lewyt Electronic! Has anyone seen the show '1,000 ways to die'? In one episode they showed two morons stealing fuel with a shop-vac...guess how it ended? Boom! Reminds me of the 'in-home Lipo-Suction' episode,I won't go into details, but they made sure to have a clear tube on the vacuum! surprised


Post# 298615 , Reply# 52   9/17/2014 at 09:45 (3,480 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well, I finally gave in : ) I knew that I would either buy a Lewis or a Henry - and it has to be Henry.

Like Matt I also received the Wessel Werk plastic sole plate floor head. It weighs around 650 grams compared to the Metal based soleplate sold also by Nilfisk which I bought online. Fits perfectly and the metal one weighs 700 grams. The metal plate aids gliding and doesn't feel as rough as the plastic one. Both floorheads have snap fit tool slider collars for the tool park at the back of Henry, so it's only a matter of swapping the collars around.

Only for the moment the John Lewis ones appear to come with metal sole plate based suction only floor heads. Also took the opportunity in NOT using the generic cleaning tools that come with Numatic. Would rather save them and use up the spare tools I have from other brands - crevice and pull down reversible upholstery tool and brush taken from my old Vax Mach Air.

I got one bag fitted and 3 spare HEPA Flo dust bags. Very happy owning Henry - he's just like my old James model but with longer hose and at last the cord rewind roller. He is a bit quieter at 580 watts and only a little lighter to lift. My tubes haven't fallen off yet - its a matter of screwing them ever so tightly to ensure a tight fit.

Even better now are the main locking slider mechanisms at the sides - they're not as plasticky thin and painful on the hands, so little by little Numatic have made improvements here and there.


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Post# 298617 , Reply# 53   9/17/2014 at 10:01 (3,480 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)        

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Sebo fan any chance you could take a picture of the box.I decided to get Henry extra it came in a standard box not like the box you're supposed to get quite disappointed as I always like to keep the box. Or you could just tell me if your boxes is just the standard box I was quite disappointed as I've always loved Henry's boxes

Post# 298622 , Reply# 54   9/17/2014 at 11:14 (3,480 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The box that the eco/Henry HVR200-A2 comes in is in the same box that Matt got his in. Its the same model as Matt's.

I also notice that the tubes at the top/bent handle seems to be thinner or more tapered than older ones.


Post# 298674 , Reply# 55   9/17/2014 at 21:21 (3,480 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Not too shabby for a MODERN canister! laughing


Post# 298696 , Reply# 56   9/18/2014 at 05:05 (3,479 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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It depends on what you term as Modern. To my mind, Henry isn't a modern vacuum cleaner - he is beyond modern! He's something different - He's a traditional tried and tested commercial model with only a few differences made for the domestic market - Less so now perhaps that the troublesome Hi/Lo switch has been removed.

Still today, there aren't as many well built alternatives that can offer the same excellent sealed suction and massive dust bag capacity not to mention widespread availability of bags or spares.

There are so many advantages to owning Henry - but in my opinion, only if you have the space to accomodate him. I'd have liked to have seen that "running" LED light have a change of colour like SEBO to indicate when the bag needs replacing or when there's a clog. That would have been more modern. Also a few more tool clips or something similar to the crevice/dust brush combination.

There is nothing wrong with any of Henry's tools - but you have to limit the 4 that you get to the 1 you will need the most and slide it onto the hook on the main body.

I was impressed the first time when I bought my first Numatic - the yellow James with the open tool caddy at the top and where the cord could be either lasso'd over the top or collected all up and stashed at the top, clumsily. The original James had a shorter hose and lighter aluminium tubes, but in my experience, the lighter aluminium ones were more difficult to remove than Henry's stainless steel ones. I think the newer ones still have the same kind of tooling, but the whole range now benefits from the Wessel Werk suction floor heads.



Post# 298799 , Reply# 57   9/18/2014 at 21:10 (3,479 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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He's an updated classic, then! laughing


Post# 298853 , Reply# 58   9/19/2014 at 03:44 (3,479 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Has just discovered a new feature

Apparently you can hide members posts..... No more drivel from the erm.... who sucks up water with Dysons :)
Seamus


Post# 298910 , Reply# 59   9/19/2014 at 17:19 (3,478 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Well I hope I'm not getting blocked, you'd miss out on a ton of vintage Kenmore action over in the vintage section! tongue-out


Post# 299026 , Reply# 60   9/20/2014 at 15:18 (3,477 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The Airobrush arrived this morning. I ordered a black one from a seller I buy from often and oh my, the speed of the roller is very fast, but super smooth to push. Pity the tool storer clip from the Numatic floor head can't fit on the neck of the Airobrush, thus being able to clip to the body of the Henry.

Still, I find the turn of speed very effective but not surprising. The sealed suction on Henry vacs have always been excellent with the HEPA Flo rubber seal dust bags fitted and being synthetic made, the bags are less likely to tear apart compared to the older green/brown paper ones.


Post# 299141 , Reply# 61   9/21/2014 at 06:09 (3,476 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)        

My airo brush is the noisiest thing in the world. It sounds like a dirt bike being revved constantly. Very effective all the same though even as the bag fills

Post# 299425 , Reply# 62   9/23/2014 at 02:45 (3,475 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Tool storage?

That's easily sorted- add one of these ;)
Seamus


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Post# 299829 , Reply# 63   9/26/2014 at 09:31 (3,471 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I think I had one of those with my James model all those years ago - it didn't last.

Just have to order more tool accessory clips to fit to Henry's bowler hat rim and then add another two tools for daily cleaning.


Post# 301298 , Reply# 64   10/10/2014 at 09:58 (3,457 days old) by tomvacuum10 (Northern Ireland)        
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I bought a henry cap from a charity show for 20p!

Post# 302562 , Reply# 65   10/21/2014 at 09:21 (3,446 days old) by Baglessball ()        
Thought I would jump on the band wagon..

Here is my new little mate. Managed to pick him up for just under £63 delivered.

How freaking quiet are these bad boys!?

Does anybody know the part number for the cone shaped hose? John just has the standard one.


Post# 302621 , Reply# 66   10/21/2014 at 21:39 (3,446 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Numatic haven't released specific part numbers

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Good luck trying to get the same hose.

I had plenty of "joys" trying to get Numatic to send me the same metal sole plate gliding floor head they equip with their JL Numatic John or Lewis models. Response came back that the floor head was an exclusive part whilst another friend of mine also emailed Numatic and was told that the floor head and all parts on those machines were "old stock parts" that have not been repeated.

Best to email Numatic and ask them about the hose for the Numatic John/Lewis - I believe the part number for the hose is 601101.. Now, if you look this up, this is the generic part number.

When questioned and pointed out to Numatic that the floor head they had for the JL models were different, they carry the same model number as the bloomin' plastic one they now supply for Henry models - Numatic haven't been organised enough to even show their technical department of the changes to the JL specials and as a result, all the part numbers have been carried over from the old.

Let me know if you can get the same kind of hose - I would be interested to see if Numatic supply a different response.



Post# 302979 , Reply# 67   10/24/2014 at 14:16 (3,443 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        
new eco henry

during the late eighties/early nineties henry's were fitted with a similar nozzle to the wessel werk, except that a little wheel was fitted at each end of the nozzle opening which worked very well with the single speed 1000w motors.

At long last numatic have perfected the henry machine by incorporating the advantages of the'tapered' hose (which was to my knowledge was first recognised and pioneered by Electrolux and introduced on their Z25 in 1933/4 and did and does improve the airflow and consequent suction!!!) combined with with the 580w motor which will be enhanced by those super 'airflow' dustbags.

Nilfisk discontinued the tapered hose approx six years ago; they are now building to a price and not to a quality.

I treated myself to a nilfisk GS80 in Feb 92; 700w, tapered hose, wall mounted tool canister, etc. I use the nilfisk version of the wessel werk nozzle on the carpets and its just fine!

If my GS80 was a car it would have a 'spirit of ecstacy' mounted on its radiator grill!!

But if tomorrow I was considering between nilfisk/numatic, the eco henry/hetty would win handsdown.


Post# 302985 , Reply# 68   10/24/2014 at 15:01 (3,443 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Walter, Hope your well. Strange you mentioned Nilfisk. I was at my suppliers last week looking at the current GM80. I was surprised with how it's been rated.

 

Jamessmile

 

 


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Post# 303261 , Reply# 69   10/26/2014 at 11:38 (3,441 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        

Hello James,

I am well, hope your ok?

Nilfisk just have too much competition these days!

Cheers, Walter.



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