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Post# 296874 , Reply# 1   9/3/2014 at 14:03 (3,494 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 296881 , Reply# 2   9/3/2014 at 14:25 (3,494 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)   |   | |
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No I already had a new Airo Brush... However it comes as standard with the HenryXtra |
Post# 296884 , Reply# 4   9/3/2014 at 14:39 (3,494 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)   |   | |
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Yeah I paid £95 for mine from our local cash and carry. They had a bulk load of them with the new version mixed in with the old version |
Post# 296888 , Reply# 5   9/3/2014 at 14:43 (3,494 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)   |   | |
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Post# 296890 , Reply# 6   9/3/2014 at 15:06 (3,494 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)   |   | |
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I think the home event is nationwide, so check your local Asda to see what they have in. |
Post# 296891 , Reply# 7   9/3/2014 at 15:16 (3,494 days old) by suctionselector (Leeds, England)   |   | |
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Post# 296892 , Reply# 8   9/3/2014 at 15:19 (3,494 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)   |   | |
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Asda Direct have a home sale on, but the Henry is not in it online, only in store. |
Post# 296900 , Reply# 9   9/3/2014 at 15:41 (3,494 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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The Dyson DC08 has the 'cone' shaped hose too, it is really thick where it enters the bin |
Post# 296904 , Reply# 10   9/3/2014 at 15:57 (3,494 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)   |   | |
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I have to say that I am impressed by the clear, concise, colour instruction manual. Well done, Numatic. |
Post# 296910 , Reply# 11   9/3/2014 at 16:26 (3,494 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)   |   | |
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I love numatic. I have massive respect for them for still producing thier producs, and thier beloved Henrys in England! And they dont just assemble them here, they are near 100% made here. They process the plastic pellets for the bodies, the bearings, the stainless steel, not to mention the motors and everything else. I am glad to see the union jack on the boxes and instructions. Basically a bonus that thier vacuums are beautifully built and incredibly reliable. A great video on Numatics factory below, talking about how manufacturing in Chard is more efficient than in the far east, due to quick deliveries and so on;
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/daveha... Due to the BBC coverage, Numatic say their recognition and sales were boosted!; www.chardandilminsternews.co.uk/n... Also about Numatic testing. Really funny to see those Henrys going round and round and getting disy ahahha! As regards the hose being similar to SEBO, I would be surprised if there is a tie up some how with SEBO and Numatic. Both are similar companies in the sense they specialise in the more commercial aspect of cleaning, they also make their products in the country of origin. The only reason I say this is because there is a couple of Numatic upright vacuums which are SEBO G2 and G3 (or G1's, not too sure). Numatic are big in Germany, enough to dedicate a website which looks nicer than the English version ! www.numatic.de/produkte/numatic37... They seem like a very legitimate, genuine company that are more content with giving people a nice product rather than making massive profit. Under £100 for a British built vacuum at that quality is a steal and many people would be happy to pay more than that I am sure. I love my George and am seriously thinking of getting one of these new models. Looks like a nice machine dude. Hope you are happy with him ! If only they would make a power nozzle version, an updated one from the Henry hound. |
Post# 296923 , Reply# 12   9/3/2014 at 17:42 (3,494 days old) by seamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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It's odd it has a plastic base- my John and Lewis are both stainless.... Seamus |
Post# 296942 , Reply# 13   9/3/2014 at 19:03 (3,494 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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I'm definitely buying one of these new Henry's now, just when you think Numatic can't make them any better, they do! 😛 |
Post# 296967 , Reply# 14   9/3/2014 at 21:58 (3,494 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)   |   | |
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The cone shaped hose that's wider at the cleaner end is nothing new. Hoover used it on their early Sensory machines too. |
Post# 297013 , Reply# 15   9/4/2014 at 08:32 (3,493 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Oli - Its a SEBO 370 - Numatic are obviously being given permission to use SEBO's vacuums in Germany - it reiterates SEBO's private label distribution such as with WIndsor in the U.S and older Karcher uprights as well as cleaning companies.
Have a look at previous thread where I commented on the same Numatic models/German website www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-... |
Post# 297020 , Reply# 16   9/4/2014 at 09:25 (3,493 days old) by DesertTortoise ()   |   | |
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I thought Numatic vacs used Lamb motors? |
Post# 297128 , Reply# 17   9/5/2014 at 04:54 (3,492 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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The plastic Wessel Werk floor head that is supplied with this new Henry is similar to the plastic ones that SEBO have been including with their basic SEBO K1 series for many years. I find it very durable, so I don't think you'll be losing out much over the stainless steel version. Infact, you might find it a great deal easier to push along the floor with.
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Post# 297156 , Reply# 18   9/5/2014 at 11:26 (3,492 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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Also the Wessel Werk head was used on the Vax Zen models too. |
Post# 297171 , Reply# 19   9/5/2014 at 14:11 (3,492 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)   |   | |
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I have the Lewis version as I like the colour and he's a bit different to the run of the mill red Henry. Personally I have cleaned the house twice with him and find it too much like hard work, bulky, gets stuck on funiture and I think the suction is rather lackluster although it only a small motor I suppose. Plus points are he is quiet but I think my UltraOne is quiter and my Miele too and they can be turned up the odd time you need a little more power. One last thing push fit tubes I do not like mine feel rather loose!
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Post# 297514 , Reply# 22   9/8/2014 at 08:59 (3,489 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Why not use the DC07 Animal or DC07 Origin? |
Post# 297518 , Reply# 23   9/8/2014 at 09:21 (3,489 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)   |   | |
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Well, speaking as someone who has owned a LOT of vacuums over the years and a die hard upright fan I have to say I love my Lewis that I got in June. I've had no trouble at all with the extension tubes coming apart and find the suction more than adequate. The airobrush is one of the best air driven tools I've used as is the carpet/hard floor tool. I did buy a mini turbo brush from Amazon to use with mine as I have a cat who seems to cast his body weight in fur every day. Even my partner likes Lewis, no mean feat as he has grumbled about every other vacuum in some way or another. I think Lewis will be a member of our little family for sometime yet :-)
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Post# 297521 , Reply# 24   9/8/2014 at 09:30 (3,489 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 297527 , Reply# 25   9/8/2014 at 09:59 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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I Think the dc07 would clean better but I would definitely rather have the Henry and one thing I hate about turbo brushes as they slow down when you put them on flooring and And the Henry's is not too bad for that but the best her by brush is the Dysons it actually speeds up when it hits the floor is it never slows down it does a great job but I do like Henry I think I'm definitely going to get one
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Post# 297591 , Reply# 27   9/8/2014 at 17:02 (3,489 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Plus I am not hating Henry, I used to hate Henry till I used my Aunties 2012 Eco Henry, and was impressed. They do last, and have good durable motors, so no prob there in terms of lasting. |
Post# 297595 , Reply# 28   9/8/2014 at 17:22 (3,489 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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You can vacuum water in a Dyson, just like you can clean up an asbestos spill with a straw. They're both terrible ideas. You're basing Dyson's wet/dry capabilities from a dangerous youtube video. What happens when that water reaches the cyclones? Ruined motors,a huge shock hazard (don't touch the water, it'll be like licking the wand of an Lewyt Electronic), and worst of all, MOLD. With all the junk those Dysons fail to filter from the air, the last thing you want is the cyclones becoming a mold farm because somebody thought their Dyson could be used on water.
Please, by 'flexible' you must mean 'poor quality plastics that could snap at any moment', the last vacuum I would a want in a commercial setting is a Dyson. Don't tell me they're nearly impossible to break under normal use, you've seen just how much that certain DC24 has broken in it's short lifespan. This Henry will be cleaning rugs long after the DC07 is failing to decompose in a landfill. |
Post# 297599 , Reply# 29   9/8/2014 at 17:42 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 297601 , Reply# 30   9/8/2014 at 17:42 (3,489 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 297604 , Reply# 31   9/8/2014 at 17:52 (3,489 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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You bet I don't have any of the new ones, Dyson isn't getting my cash until he builds a vacuum that doesn't bend itself while in use! Why on earth would you want to vacuum with such a thing, you couldn't go 2 minutes without hearing plastic creek!
Unfortunately Sebo Fan, the Dyson vs. (Pretty much every other brand) war has been going on since the dawn of Dyson, and it has no end in sight! |
Post# 297607 , Reply# 32   9/8/2014 at 18:05 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 297614 , Reply# 33   9/8/2014 at 18:56 (3,489 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 297618 , Reply# 34   9/8/2014 at 19:06 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Sorry sebo fan I was not referring to you It was for super sweeper and i hard enough to write messages site is very hard to put four stops as I i've got A learning disability Cut me some slack.i'm not the one who's gone off topic i've just reply to someone's apply that I find not very nice i'll go back to the same and ignore super sweeper. but I I apologise :)
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Post# 297619 , Reply# 35   9/8/2014 at 19:07 (3,489 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 297620 , Reply# 36   9/8/2014 at 19:13 (3,489 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Post# 297643 , Reply# 37   9/8/2014 at 22:49 (3,489 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 297658 , Reply# 39   9/9/2014 at 03:44 (3,489 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)   |   | |
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And for anybody wondering what a dursting brush is... it's actually a dusting brush LOL can't believe I missed that typo! |
Post# 297661 , Reply# 40   9/9/2014 at 04:08 (3,489 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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AMEN TO THAT! Thank God you said that before I did, Nar :P.
Seriously, does every single friggin' conversation have to have friggin' Dyson injected into it at high speed by the same friggin' people every friggin' time? That's too many friggin's, but you get what I mean. Slightly disapointing that Numatic no longer include the handy tool bag. Does anyone know if you can still buy it online? |
Post# 297677 , Reply# 42   9/9/2014 at 08:37 (3,488 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 297688 , Reply# 43   9/9/2014 at 10:48 (3,488 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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Erm, no super sweeper, I have ALWAYSused dyson to suck upo water, models DC01 to DC25 so egg your facts right, please... |
Post# 297690 , Reply# 44   9/9/2014 at 11:04 (3,488 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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And there we go again, boys and girls, the same members throwing Dyson into the conversation where they don't need to be.
It's not recommended to suck water up with a Dyson, Tayyab. Mostly because the minute the water hits the top cyclones, it's going to get the filter wet and suck through into the motor. And then what? BANG. You should know that. Having said that, you did just tell someone to "egg your facts right" and there's so much wrong with the sentence, I don't even know where to start. Gives a good insight into the level of intellectuals we have posting on here, doesn't it? |
Post# 297695 , Reply# 45   9/9/2014 at 11:40 (3,488 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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as I don't want to keep on going on about Dyson super sweeper just keep on going on saying how Dyson is crap any does it in every single thing even know it's not about Dyson anyone has their opinion but Best not to say it wouldn't hurt other people Offend them He just does not stop i will ignore super sweeper and his and not very Nice comments against dyson and I apologise and lupus we park if you see this you please stop with the Dyson hating I know you don't like them but you just continue and continue to say when everyone knows other people don't like Dyson but I don't continually says bad things about them on every single thread so please and again I apologise always try not to respond comments about Dyson and try and stick to the same but sometimes I just can't so again I apologise to turbo 500 and Sebo fan and matt8808
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Post# 297701 , Reply# 46   9/9/2014 at 12:31 (3,488 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 297706 , Reply# 47   9/9/2014 at 13:13 (3,488 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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To my knowledge, a lot of those AA/ recovery motoring companies who help out motorists that inadvertently fill up their petrol led cars with diesel by mistake (and vice versa) and also the TA, swear by Numatics vacs that can suck out the fuel from car tanks. Of course one would imagine that it might be a Charles but also that the filter/motor would be properly protected.
Not that I am suggesting anything about sucking up fuel with a Dyson. I think any liquid and any electrical appliance is utter madness UNLESS the design purposefully allows liquid pick up, and even then you may still have to take precautions. |
Post# 297710 , Reply# 48   9/9/2014 at 13:35 (3,488 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK)   |   | |
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Goodness me, Parwaz786, you seem very hostile. You seem to only go on about dyson, yet this is a vacuum forum, not a dyson forum so have a little input in other makes of vacuums. Dysons, like Apple products (no mention of the new iPhone 6 anyone ;) are incredibly over priced and over rated. They are not terrible and some of their designs are quite thoughtful, but they are very over priced and the owners of the companies are quite corrupt and dis-honest to their customers, but hey, like beats headphones, because it is "a dyson" with fancy packaging a letter written on the side of the box so you know its a state of the art product, it must be fantastic.
Anyways, I love how we are all referring to our Numatics as he's and she's. I am going to get a John or Lewis in John lewis tomorrow as I need something tough and easy to use on my garage as it gets dusty through sanding and a few cobwebs etc, also be good for doings the cars I guess. Glad you like it ! And they are also British everything! Built, design and manufactured !! |
Post# 297736 , Reply# 50   9/9/2014 at 18:15 (3,488 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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I do like your Henry, indeed, hope it provides you with many years of trouble free service, enjoy. Tayyab |
Post# 297785 , Reply# 51   9/9/2014 at 22:29 (3,488 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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That Henry cap is ADORABLE!....I feel as if I lost some of my manly-ness by saying that!
I don't think Dyson is a bad guy, but I also don't think his products live up to their expectations. I have yet to try a newer model, and rely on others experiences with them, and my own experiences with the Dysons I have owned in the past. The DC07, The DC14 and the DC17 all failed to impress me. I don't hate Dyson, hate is a strong word. Part of me wants to go out there and buy the latest Dyson, to see what they are like for myself. But another part of me wants to stay loyal to the Kirbys, Hoovers and etc. That has served me right in the past.
..back to Nunatic, using the vacuum as a tank-emptier sounds like as bad an idea as the Lewyt Electronic! Has anyone seen the show '1,000 ways to die'? In one episode they showed two morons stealing fuel with a shop-vac...guess how it ended? Boom! Reminds me of the 'in-home Lipo-Suction' episode,I won't go into details, but they made sure to have a clear tube on the vacuum! |
Post# 298615 , Reply# 52   9/17/2014 at 09:45 (3,480 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well, I finally gave in : ) I knew that I would either buy a Lewis or a Henry - and it has to be Henry.
Like Matt I also received the Wessel Werk plastic sole plate floor head. It weighs around 650 grams compared to the Metal based soleplate sold also by Nilfisk which I bought online. Fits perfectly and the metal one weighs 700 grams. The metal plate aids gliding and doesn't feel as rough as the plastic one. Both floorheads have snap fit tool slider collars for the tool park at the back of Henry, so it's only a matter of swapping the collars around. Only for the moment the John Lewis ones appear to come with metal sole plate based suction only floor heads. Also took the opportunity in NOT using the generic cleaning tools that come with Numatic. Would rather save them and use up the spare tools I have from other brands - crevice and pull down reversible upholstery tool and brush taken from my old Vax Mach Air. I got one bag fitted and 3 spare HEPA Flo dust bags. Very happy owning Henry - he's just like my old James model but with longer hose and at last the cord rewind roller. He is a bit quieter at 580 watts and only a little lighter to lift. My tubes haven't fallen off yet - its a matter of screwing them ever so tightly to ensure a tight fit. Even better now are the main locking slider mechanisms at the sides - they're not as plasticky thin and painful on the hands, so little by little Numatic have made improvements here and there.
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Post# 298617 , Reply# 53   9/17/2014 at 10:01 (3,480 days old) by dys0nb0y (Luton)   |   | |
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Sebo fan any chance you could take a picture of the box.I decided to get Henry extra it came in a standard box not like the box you're supposed to get quite disappointed as I always like to keep the box. Or you could just tell me if your boxes is just the standard box I was quite disappointed as I've always loved Henry's boxes
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Post# 298622 , Reply# 54   9/17/2014 at 11:14 (3,480 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 298674 , Reply# 55   9/17/2014 at 21:21 (3,480 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 298696 , Reply# 56   9/18/2014 at 05:05 (3,479 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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It depends on what you term as Modern. To my mind, Henry isn't a modern vacuum cleaner - he is beyond modern! He's something different - He's a traditional tried and tested commercial model with only a few differences made for the domestic market - Less so now perhaps that the troublesome Hi/Lo switch has been removed.
Still today, there aren't as many well built alternatives that can offer the same excellent sealed suction and massive dust bag capacity not to mention widespread availability of bags or spares. There are so many advantages to owning Henry - but in my opinion, only if you have the space to accomodate him. I'd have liked to have seen that "running" LED light have a change of colour like SEBO to indicate when the bag needs replacing or when there's a clog. That would have been more modern. Also a few more tool clips or something similar to the crevice/dust brush combination. There is nothing wrong with any of Henry's tools - but you have to limit the 4 that you get to the 1 you will need the most and slide it onto the hook on the main body. I was impressed the first time when I bought my first Numatic - the yellow James with the open tool caddy at the top and where the cord could be either lasso'd over the top or collected all up and stashed at the top, clumsily. The original James had a shorter hose and lighter aluminium tubes, but in my experience, the lighter aluminium ones were more difficult to remove than Henry's stainless steel ones. I think the newer ones still have the same kind of tooling, but the whole range now benefits from the Wessel Werk suction floor heads. |
Post# 298799 , Reply# 57   9/18/2014 at 21:10 (3,479 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 298853 , Reply# 58   9/19/2014 at 03:44 (3,479 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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Apparently you can hide members posts..... No more drivel from the erm.... who sucks up water with Dysons :) Seamus |
Post# 298910 , Reply# 59   9/19/2014 at 17:19 (3,478 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 299026 , Reply# 60   9/20/2014 at 15:18 (3,477 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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The Airobrush arrived this morning. I ordered a black one from a seller I buy from often and oh my, the speed of the roller is very fast, but super smooth to push. Pity the tool storer clip from the Numatic floor head can't fit on the neck of the Airobrush, thus being able to clip to the body of the Henry.
Still, I find the turn of speed very effective but not surprising. The sealed suction on Henry vacs have always been excellent with the HEPA Flo rubber seal dust bags fitted and being synthetic made, the bags are less likely to tear apart compared to the older green/brown paper ones. |
Post# 299141 , Reply# 61   9/21/2014 at 06:09 (3,476 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK)   |   | |
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My airo brush is the noisiest thing in the world. It sounds like a dirt bike being revved constantly. Very effective all the same though even as the bag fills |
Post# 299425 , Reply# 62   9/23/2014 at 02:45 (3,475 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)   |   | |
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That's easily sorted- add one of these ;) Seamus CLICK HERE TO GO TO SeamusUK's LINK on eBay |
Post# 299829 , Reply# 63   9/26/2014 at 09:31 (3,471 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 301298 , Reply# 64   10/10/2014 at 09:58 (3,457 days old) by tomvacuum10 (Northern Ireland)   |   | |
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Post# 302621 , Reply# 66   10/21/2014 at 21:39 (3,446 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Good luck trying to get the same hose.
I had plenty of "joys" trying to get Numatic to send me the same metal sole plate gliding floor head they equip with their JL Numatic John or Lewis models. Response came back that the floor head was an exclusive part whilst another friend of mine also emailed Numatic and was told that the floor head and all parts on those machines were "old stock parts" that have not been repeated. Best to email Numatic and ask them about the hose for the Numatic John/Lewis - I believe the part number for the hose is 601101.. Now, if you look this up, this is the generic part number. When questioned and pointed out to Numatic that the floor head they had for the JL models were different, they carry the same model number as the bloomin' plastic one they now supply for Henry models - Numatic haven't been organised enough to even show their technical department of the changes to the JL specials and as a result, all the part numbers have been carried over from the old. Let me know if you can get the same kind of hose - I would be interested to see if Numatic supply a different response. |
Post# 302985 , Reply# 68   10/24/2014 at 15:01 (3,443 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Walter, Hope your well. Strange you mentioned Nilfisk. I was at my suppliers last week looking at the current GM80. I was surprised with how it's been rated.
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