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Thread Number: 25629
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| Post# 287792 7/8/2014 at 16:54 (3,569 days old) by DesertTortoise () | ||
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Which Meile canister vacs came with Lamb motors? I want to know for reference if I ever go looking for a used Meile canister to add to the collection. Thanks in advance. the Desert Tortoise | ||
| Post# 287794 , Reply# 1 7/8/2014 at 17:17 (3,569 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
I believe they switched over in late 1999 or 2000. The only series that would have them are the S200i series (such as my S238i which is the oldest body style canister they sold here). It would be all S200i machines made from 1985-1999. They did make the Plus and Natural, S251i, with the German motor and the Vortex motor though. They also were in the S300i Series like my Blue Magic or a Red Star until the changeover. The Platinum only came in the German motor, and most of the late S300i's had the newer motor in them. The Red Star some other one I can't think of now even made it up into the Vortex era, so you'd have to go by the age of the vacuum. The S400i's also had Lamb motors in them like my White Pearl, it has a Lamb motor in it. The vortex motor is the easiest to tell by looking at the speed control and seeing if it goes up to 1100 or 1200 Watts, the vortex is 1200 and the Lamb and German made motor are 1100.
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| Post# 287813 , Reply# 2 7/8/2014 at 18:22 (3,569 days old) by DesertTortoise () | ||
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Thanks ultralux. It's tough to find images of the older Miele vacs. | ||
| Post# 287843 , Reply# 3 7/8/2014 at 21:38 (3,569 days old) by kirbykid63 (Wilmington Delaware) | ||
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Just listed one I just pulled one from a s312i,find mieles all the time and part them out need anything let us know. Rich new2youvacuums on eBay. | ||
| Post# 287914 , Reply# 5 7/9/2014 at 11:52 (3,569 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
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I honestly think the German or the Vortex motors are better. They definitely don't fail as much as the Lamb motors do, we've replaced a good number of Lambs in Mieles, but very few of the German motors and even fewer Vortex motors, they are really well built and hold up well even in case of abuse that send tons of dirt and even a few cases water thru the motor, and they generally hold up, while this tends to kill the Lambs. And contrary to what Miele might tell you the Vortex motor is very easily taken apart to replace bearings and I don't know if you can get the carbons from Domel or not. I don't know about the 2 fan German motor if Domel made it or not, but I do know the Vortex motor for a fact is at least a Domel design, you can find the vortex motors in the Domel catalog.
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| Post# 287918 , Reply# 6 7/9/2014 at 11:53 (3,569 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
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| Post# 288000 , Reply# 8 7/9/2014 at 19:39 (3,568 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
Ultralux88
Reggie, are you nuts or something?!?! You SERIOUSLY think that a Slovenian-made Domel motor is better made than an Ametek motor? I think NOT! Our local shop, before they went under in December 2012, made the unwise decision of buying some Domel double-stage motors from Hibbert Wholesale, to use as replacements for Ametek motors in Tri-Star's, Filter Queens, etc. He had TONS of problems with them & a lot of them required premature replacement, most of them under 2 years old. No way would I ever take a Domel motor in a vacuum I was having repaired, nor would I ever buy a vacuum if I knew it had a Domel motor in it!
Rob | ||
| Post# 288070 , Reply# 9 7/10/2014 at 12:56 (3,567 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
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Well experience has told me otherwise. When Sebo switched to domel motors in the automatic series and the Windsors they got more powerful but also seem to have the motors last longer. Same for Pro-Team backpacks, domel motors are presented kind of a fan upgraded motor, they do take more abuse than the lamb motors from what I've seen too, and there's a big difference in power
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| Post# 288085 , Reply# 10 7/10/2014 at 15:40 (3,567 days old) by DesertTortoise () | ||
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I am curious what is failing in Lamb motors? I have quite a few vacs with their 5.7 inch TF motors and they have been bulletproof in my own limited experience with them. Even the beater Kenmore vacs I get to refurbish never have bad Lamb motors. | ||
| Post# 288111 , Reply# 11 7/10/2014 at 18:31 (3,567 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
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I feel the older lamb motors were very good and lasted years. lots just that the newer ones don't seem to hold up as well. I think some is the higher amperage, I also think the bearing failure is a big part of it too. I see more of the mid 90s and newer lambs with burnt out armature windings and damaged commutators than the older ones too. The lamb motors are bad or unreliable for a motor today, they're still better than most. I just think the domel motor is just a bit more reliable, closer to that they used to be.
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| Post# 288128 , Reply# 12 7/10/2014 at 20:13 (3,567 days old) by bebring (Québec) | ||
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I just bought a 2 stage lamb motor to replace the motor in my Shop-Vac, will be a good motor? | ||
| Post# 288150 , Reply# 13 7/10/2014 at 23:45 (3,567 days old) by DesertTortoise () | ||
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What motor number? I wouldn't worry too much about a US manufactured 5.7 inch Lamb motor. They are not overstressed like perhaps some of the smaller motors might be. | ||
| Post# 288170 , Reply# 14 7/11/2014 at 06:15 (3,567 days old) by bebring (Québec) | ||
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The number model is 116471-00, is assembled in Mexico. | ||
| Post# 288184 , Reply# 15 7/11/2014 at 09:52 (3,567 days old) by DesertTortoise () | ||
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Peripheral discharge. I have no experience with their peripheral dischage motors, only their through flow canister vac motors. It's not one of their most powerful motors. | ||
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