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| Post# 282478 5/31/2014 at 11:00 (3,616 days old) by OCScott3085 (DMV) | ||
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Hi All, Looking for a secondary vacuum to replace my Dyson DC41...I'm over bagless! Aside from the Miele S7 (too heavy) is anyone aware of another good bagged upright vacuum with swivel steering? Thanks in advance! | ||
| Post# 282481 , Reply# 1 5/31/2014 at 11:05 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 282482 , Reply# 2 5/31/2014 at 11:06 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 282483 , Reply# 3 5/31/2014 at 11:08 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 282490 , Reply# 5 5/31/2014 at 11:37 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I guess it depends on what you want and what you are prepared to pay.
If you just require a lightweight bagged swivel upright without a hose and solely for carpets then the Oreck or any other brand in the U.S could satisfy that requirement. The Felix however has a short hose on board. I'd say and to use an American term which actually fits the short hose on board, the Felix has more of a detail hose on board rather than a full stretch hose. Its PN head also has a handy brush roll on/off button and a manual 4 height adjustment. If you have never had SEBO before, their power nozzle ET-1 head is well designed and even has a side button release for the entire brush roll that comes out for cleaning threads from etc. The Felix isn't as light as Oreck though, but it is certainly more nimble than a Miele S7 IMHO. I don't miss my S7 at all. | ||
| Post# 282492 , Reply# 6 5/31/2014 at 11:40 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The Felix is available in a few different colours but are different from country to country....
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| Post# 282495 , Reply# 7 5/31/2014 at 11:42 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Doh I didn't read your whole profile - you have obviously owned SEBO before with the X4 but the Felix doesn't come with auto sensor head, but similar brush roll.
I find the X4 to be lighter to push than the Felix even though they have similar weights and the hose on board the Felix is slightly smaller compared to the X series. I own both but I still prefer the wand & hose set up on the X series compared to the Felix, but again reiterates what I pointed out where the Felix hose is more of a detail hose than full stretch. | ||
| Post# 282499 , Reply# 8 5/31/2014 at 11:48 (3,616 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
I second sebo_fan's choice with the SEBO Felix. I've had one for nearly 7 years now and just love it's ease of use, excellent performance, easy to maintain and cheap to run (bags...filters etc...). I wouldn't change it at all. I don't miss emptying or owning a bagless vacuum now at all, and have seen the benefits of going back to a bag machine. Plus they don't really loose suction as is always mentioned. Well the Felix doesn't! The Felix is very nimble and steers around objects and glides under low furniture fine. I use mine most days to pick up pet hair and debris the ET-1 power head grooms the carpet very well and makes pet hair pick up a dream! Had no issues with it to date!
Give one a demo in a vacuum shop. | ||
| Post# 282522 , Reply# 10 5/31/2014 at 13:45 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 282579 , Reply# 11 5/31/2014 at 15:52 (3,616 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
The one vacuum cleaner I think a lot of us can agree on, that is basically what we call the full package is the sebo felix. It is the avatar on the "contemporary " forum thread. It is well engineered, quality built vacuum made in Germany where they know what they are doing, it is bagged with a good filtration system, bags are cheap, has great suction, terrific agitation, lightweight, easy to use, quiet and has swivel steering, and in hindsight, it good value for money. Comes in great colours and fetching designs all backed by a great customer service and 5 year guarantee.
Okay I am a sucker for sebo but I love their products and their felix is one of their best. It has been around for nearly 10 years now and has proved very reliable. Sebo updated the model in 2010 or 2011 whenever it was and sorted out the temperamental electrical connector for the swivel head and fitted a more efficient, quieter suction motor and introduce some new designs. | ||
| Post# 282584 , Reply# 12 5/31/2014 at 16:03 (3,616 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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Avatars from the contemporary forum - here's one in real life, great machine and pleased I bought it
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| Post# 282585 , Reply# 13 5/31/2014 at 16:06 (3,616 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
Steve 
You are 100% WRONG Oreck is here to stay being made in the USA please stop spreading rumors that you know absolutely NOTHING about . Many Hoover vacuums will also be built in Cooksville TN !!!
Orecks swivel vacuums are great machines . I own over 400 vacuums and REFUSE to own Sebo they are NOT good vacuums . Nothing about any Sebo impresses me and I could purchase any Sebo I please but refuse that brand along with Miele older Miele vacuums were great nothing newer than 2003 is worth purchasing a Miele . Dan | ||
| Post# 282589 , Reply# 14 5/31/2014 at 16:20 (3,616 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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Thanks for that Dan - consider yourself blocked. I dont want to read your posts any longer. This post was last edited 05/31/2014 at 16:36 | ||
| Post# 282598 , Reply# 15 5/31/2014 at 17:39 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Dan I do sympathise with you on one hand - after all both you and I share adoration for the Hoover Signature models - however, in the UK we just aren't that lucky to get so many bagged uprights from other brands.
I guess if we had such a large market with as many bagged uprights, we'd probably shift base and like other brands. IMHO SEBO for me are the best because they mimic the same kind of build quality and durability than say, an old Hoover Junior or Senior (convertible as you know in the U.S) I agree that old Miele cylinder vacs were the best, but by god they're heavy to pull around as well. | ||
| Post# 282601 , Reply# 17 5/31/2014 at 17:53 (3,616 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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I'm with you oliveoiltinfoil I love my SEBO Felix having had it now for nearly 7 years over that time I've come to love SEBO as a brand and their other models and products too. Mine is from 2007 when I purchased it, it's the Classic version really pleased with it. Until then never heard of SEBO until I got mine and also my Aunty mentioned she had one (X4 Extra). I'm glad I've gone back to a bagged vacuum.
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| Post# 282603 , Reply# 19 5/31/2014 at 18:13 (3,616 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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Exactly madaboutsebo. I got a Sebo X1 several years ago, probably about 1995 and that is what sold me on them. Had that machine along side several other bagged and bagless purchases through the years and none of them could touch the sebo for performance or refinement. I still have it today but have retired it as a spare and for doing outside work. I must take a picture and upload it. Being nearly 20 years old I have not replaced a single part. Nothing has broken off or worn out, not even the carbon brushes. I strip it down once every year or so, clean it right through, and I mean right through. I take the motors out, spray everything with WD40 and rinse everything including the motors which cleans the barings of any grits or dust (even though not much gets to the motor). Sounds scary but it must have done something because it still runs today absolutely 100%. The felix is like an evolution of it I guess. I love them both.
Side note here, why is Dan so hostile? I hate to point fingers but I have read a few of his posts and you come across as quite snobby to be honest and why you have a profile picture along side you Mercedes god only knows. Sebo's are amazing and Hoovers quite frankly, ones built within the last 10 years are POS. | ||
| Post# 282604 , Reply# 20 5/31/2014 at 18:24 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Oli -
To be specific, the SEBO X1 Automatic got a best buy in 1993 from Which magazine (see the scans I put on at www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...) and also in 1996 It annoys me though that the SEBO K1 cylinder vac has never been recognised by Which. It was tested in 2007 but they didn't award it a best buy. The K and C series have been tested by Which but they have never been recognised. The D series in 2010 got a Best Buy from Which, which of course was nice to see. | ||
| Post# 282605 , Reply# 21 5/31/2014 at 18:24 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 282606 , Reply# 22 5/31/2014 at 18:35 (3,616 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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| Post# 282607 , Reply# 23 5/31/2014 at 18:37 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 282608 , Reply# 24 5/31/2014 at 18:50 (3,616 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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OCScott
There are alternatives if you can compromise over the domestic version of the SEBO FELIX. The commercial units sold by Windsor (under the previous name Flexamatic and now Axxcess) have fixed suction and a fixed non-height adjustable handle. They also have a non-stop brush roll built in. Karcher in the U.S also sell the commercial version of the Felix under the CV300 with bigger foot versions also available. 
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| Post# 282616 , Reply# 25 5/31/2014 at 20:47 (3,615 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Your welcome | ||
| Post# 282635 , Reply# 26 6/1/2014 at 05:05 (3,615 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 282636 , Reply# 27 6/1/2014 at 05:32 (3,615 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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I know what you mean oliveoiltinfoil, having took the plunge to buy a SEBO having used bagless for over 12 years I did question myself at first especially using it against my bagless machines. I nearly brought the X4 at the time but having hard floors in 2 rooms when I lived in my flat the Felix seemed more versatile although now I know more about the Brand I could have had the X4! I questioned why I would want to use a bagged machine again! At first I didn't use it much then started to use it more and more and started to appreciate its performance, ease of use, quality build and simple but effective design. That's when I was sold so to speak. I'd love to get a version of the X series at some point. I've thought about retiring my Felix Classic and getting one if the updated versions as the hoses on them are slightly longer and more flexible and stretchy compare to my Classic version. Mine you it's still got plenty of life left in it.
Shame the UK market doesn't offer more quality bagged machines as an alternative to bagless. Unfortunately the UK is still bagless mad and I don't think that will ever change that much. Unless this new EU law shakes things up a bit! But them the next big thing in cleaning is going completely cordless or robotic which at present don't offer bagged versions that I know off they are all bagless. We will see what the future brings hey! | ||
| Post# 282674 , Reply# 30 6/1/2014 at 18:16 (3,615 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 282704 , Reply# 31 6/1/2014 at 21:39 (3,614 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.) | ||
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Side note to Oliveoiltinfoil.... Oh Oliveoiltinfoil, we are so on the same page! | ||
| Post# 282736 , Reply# 32 6/2/2014 at 10:31 (3,614 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
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@ vac-o-matic | ||
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