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Thread Number: 24944
Last Call on Kirby T-shirts for the convention |
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| Post# 280484 , Reply# 1 5/14/2014 at 12:08 (3,632 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
Just curious why the VCCC is perpetrating the myth that Kirby's 100th anniversary is this year? Jim Kirby wouldn't meet Scott and Fetzer until 1917 and the first vacuum produced was in 1919. Jim Kirby's first electric production vacuum cleaner was made in 1910 by Frantz Premier, with the EZEE Grasshopper non-electric (also made by Frantz Premier, NOT Scott and Fetzer) made in 1914. Every time I hear that 2014 is Kirby's 100th Anniversary, I cringe. As a website for vacuum collectors, shouldn't we want to be accurate?
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Post# 280488 , Reply# 2 5/14/2014 at 12:41 (3,632 days old) by Vinvac  (Dubuque IA) |
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Tom,
The Kirby Company has made that decision not the VCCC. We are just happy to be a part of what they have to offer us. Barb has done an excellent job organizing and working with the Kirby Company for this convention. I am looking forward to a wonderful time and I am sure the Kirby Company will treat us very well. Morgan | ||
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Post# 280492 , Reply# 3 5/14/2014 at 12:51 (3,632 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa) |
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Hi Barb,
I just wanted to say thank you for you all the hard work that you are doing and have done for the convention this year. There are so many things that go on behind the scenes such as finding the best hotel rate, booking the hotel, and planning the events, just to name a few. It will be a great convention, and I am looking forward to going! Thank You! | ||
| Post# 280495 , Reply# 4 5/14/2014 at 13:09 (3,632 days old) by KC_Kirby (Kansas City, MO) | ||
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The T-shirts look really cool, a must have for the Kirby Aficionado. If you want one I would be sure Barbara has your size. I can't wait to get mine. | ||
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Post# 280496 , Reply# 5 5/14/2014 at 13:41 (3,632 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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And, I'm shocking the whole bunch of ye | ||
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Post# 280497 , Reply# 6 5/14/2014 at 14:32 (3,632 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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If you look at the home page of Kirby's website you will see that it says 1914-2014 100 year.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO countryguy's LINK | ||
| Post# 280501 , Reply# 7 5/14/2014 at 15:11 (3,632 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
 Hi. For me 1914 was the very beginning for the Scott & Fetzer company. With George Scott starting up his machine shop in 1914 and then Carl Fetzer joining the following year. So I see nothing wrong with them saying their 100th anniversary. And in 1919 it will be the 100th anniversary of their 1st vacuum cleaner they manufactured . Same thing goes for 2006 as that was James Kirby's 100th anniversary of him developing his 1st vacuum cleaner as I'm sure everyone on here knows.
I hope you all have a great time in Cleveland this year. I wish I was able to attend. Morgan I hope you able to take lots of picture of your time there
James | ||
| Post# 280502 , Reply# 8 5/14/2014 at 15:27 (3,632 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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But the problem is: Scott and Fetzer are claiming 2014 is KIRBY'S 100th anniversary, which it is not. To repeat that this is Kirby's 100th anniversary will be problematic in the future, as if a mistruth is repeated often enough, people believe it. This is a vacuum collector's website, and we should only offer factual information. If the Scott and Fetzer Company can't be bothered with the truth, someone should make them aware of it. Even the Scott and Fetzer Company isn't 100 years old this year, as Scott and Fetzer hadn't met yet in 1914.
I work in the only Vacuum Cleaner Museum in America, so details like this are very important. | ||
| Post# 280534 , Reply# 9 5/14/2014 at 19:05 (3,631 days old) by vacmom (Georgetown, TX) | ||
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Convention The convention is going to be fun....thanks for all of the support and thank yous...Chad deserves a lot of kudos too as we are hosting this one together! Barb | ||
| Post# 280536 , Reply# 10 5/14/2014 at 19:26 (3,631 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut) | ||
Hi Tom.
You're mixing apples and oranges. Aside from members of the V.C.C.C., vacuum-land and the V.C.A (which you started), people don't care what year it was. Bottom line, it's all numbers.
Of all people, you know how hard I fought in the early years of the V.C.C.C. to get facts correct, and nearly drove myself crazy. In the last analysis, nobody outside of our clubs, gives a damn, but as George H. Scott DID start the parent company that made Jim Kirby's vacuum cleaners, I'm honoring that. And as you also know, because you read my history on Jim Kirby, several machines like 'The Broomstick' are not recognized. But why sweat the small stuff? As for me, I'm a Kirby man, I worked for the company, trained some fantastic salesmen (and women) and have been to the factory twice. I'm simply going to enjoy the ride, and spend time with several good friends. Kirby, here I come! Alex Taber. 
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| Post# 280544 , Reply# 11 5/14/2014 at 21:05 (3,631 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut) | ||
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Also Tom,
If Scott & Fetzer want to jump the gun a few years, who's to stop them? Scott & Fetzer manufactured Jim's machines. Remember too that 'The Scott & Fetzer home sanitation system' WAS a Kirby design, and as such, IS in keeping with the date the parent company was started. Besides, Carl S. Fetzer didn't join till the following year, and our club is honoring him too.
So, as I say, let's not sweat the small stuff. The Kirby company knows what they wanted to do, and did it, not the Vacuum Cleaner Collector's Club. To all those in the V.C.C.C., Kirby, Scott & Fetzer, and so on who made this convention possible, great job, this event is going to be awesome! V.C.C.C. founder, Robert Alexander Taber. | ||
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Post# 280565 , Reply# 12 5/15/2014 at 02:37 (3,631 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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I am wondering---is the 100th anniversery model Kirby going to be introduced in June at the VCCC convention?Will be interesting to see.Becuase of work,hate to travel will not be going. | ||
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Post# 280568 , Reply# 13 5/15/2014 at 07:12 (3,631 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA) |
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Rex,
We are not expecting any big announcements from Kirby during our visit and they have not indicated anything to us. There will be a marvelous tour of the factory along with lunch in the Kirby Diner. I remember our last visit there when we went to Hoover. Kirby treated us like royalty. It was awesome to see the rebuild department and actually seeing customers bringing their Kirby's there to be rebuilt. Being there the same year they celebrate 100's years is an awesome opportunity. It will be fun and I am sure we will learn a lot. To bad you can't join us! | ||
| Post# 280582 , Reply# 14 5/15/2014 at 11:44 (3,631 days old) by vacmom (Georgetown, TX) | ||
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100th anniversary Kirby Kirby will be introducing their 100th anniversary model later in the year when they have their big celebration. Barb | ||
| Post# 280604 , Reply# 15 5/15/2014 at 12:37 (3,631 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut) | ||
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Hi Barb. | ||
| Post# 280624 , Reply# 16 5/15/2014 at 14:38 (3,631 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut) | ||
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Hi Barb.
I just spoke with the front desk at the Crowne Plaza, and all plans are set. I arrive at 3:45 am. and don't have to pay for the night before! I also asked about restaurants and there's a Perkins pancake house next to the hotel and it's open 24 hours. Finally, if anybody is traveling Amtrak, as I am, the station has limited hours, 11:00 pm - 7:00 am., I assume there will be taxi service as the hotel shuttle doesn't go that far into town.
Did Dave get my registration to you? please let me know. And as I'll have the front desk give my room number to Morgan, I'll see that you get it too. If you need any help setting up, please ask, as I plan to by alive and kicking by 10:00 am.! See you on the morning of the 12th. Alex Taber. | ||
| Post# 280675 , Reply# 17 5/15/2014 at 20:38 (3,630 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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If there are any Kirby 100th Anniversary shirts, save me a medium size | ||
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Post# 280702 , Reply# 18 5/16/2014 at 02:21 (3,630 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Guess we all have to wait for the new Kirby-thought it would have been unveiled during the Convention.That would have been an ideal time! | ||
| Post# 280742 , Reply# 19 5/16/2014 at 12:53 (3,630 days old) by KC_Kirby (Kansas City, MO) | ||
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We started planning this convention before last year's convention. Kirby typically keeps new model details secret. We could not have known when the new model would be out. Plus, Kirby fid not want to celebrate the anniversary with our club. | ||
| Post# 280762 , Reply# 20 5/16/2014 at 16:49 (3,630 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut) | ||
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Hi Barb.
I sent you an email on the second T shirt that I want. As I was writing that email, my housemate asked if this is the V.C.C.C., or strictly Kirby? I said I didn't know, as I don't. Have you a picture you can post? I'm sure we'd all like to see it.
This convention is going to be awesome, I'm counting the days, see you there. Alex. | ||
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Post# 280820 , Reply# 21 5/17/2014 at 02:55 (3,629 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Then it is possible Kirby may not introduce a new machine this year.Think unveiling it at the VCCC convention would be good publicity for them. | ||
| Post# 280827 , Reply# 22 5/17/2014 at 06:20 (3,629 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
They spend 
Big bucks to host a convention for their Kirby dealers from all over the world . A few collectors would do nothing for them unless one if the collectors happens to work for say the History channel ,Dateline or 60 minutes then that's a different story . The new Kirby won't be released until October and until then NOBODY will get to see it before the Kirby dealers themselves .
Dan This post was last edited 05/17/2014 at 07:35 | ||
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Post# 280833 , Reply# 23 5/17/2014 at 09:34 (3,629 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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AS far as the actual date,
To quote the eloquent Mr. Johnny Matthis, 'It's not for me to say". Loads of misinformation is out there. For example, many insist the Murray Spangler was Susan Hoover's cousin. They'd be cousins by marriage, at best! I'm actually related to Murray Sopangler by blood, and have no claim to anything, naturally. I remember meeting Gragce Spangler, as she visited my grandmother (Hoover 28) often, and she was my grandmother's maid of honor.
Look in Fabulous Dustpan. I'll wait until you open your personal copies. That strory was just that. Lots of things were added for a bigger truth. People forget how the HOOVERs tried to kill that book, as it mentions the suicide from the hospital window. Tons of bent truths, misconstrued facts, and flat out lies were written about that company. Ann Haines has seen tons of false info written. Yet, some of it goes out "there". She can't be responsible for other people's ignorance. Does it matter when Kirby celebrates? We'll join them in celebrating/observing an American company, STILL not in China! I'll even cross the threshold, and will behave.well........ we'll see. Stark's ha a vacuum museum. Many of us were there. They treated us wonderfully. I'm sure Kirby will as well. So, put on you "Kirby"shirt, and celebrate. Noyt many people live to see 100 years of Kirby or HOOVER. Just my $.02... more like about $6.00 | ||
| Post# 280849 , Reply# 24 5/17/2014 at 13:19 (3,629 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut) | ||
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Hi John.
Speaking of the book 'Fabulous Dustpan,' when the other John, Mr. Lucia, and I were at the Hoover Historical Center for the first time, he spoke to Stacy Krammes about that book, and she was the first to mention the inaccuracies. Both she, and Skip Marquadt, head of engineering told us that it's author, Frank G. Hoover, was not liked by the top brass, in fact, the Hoover company tried to ban it for telling inside stories on the family. Skip, and Stacy asked us not to spread the lies, or, or tarnish the Hoover name with the suicide of one of the Hoover sons, or his personal problems. Of course we honored that!
The problems John and I faced in the early years of the club, was the myriad of half truths. Digging research was nearly impossible, checking facts were worse! While both John and I had a wealth of knowledge that we were willing to share with our membership, the old timers who had told us these stories were long gone. Also, this was a time when all vacuum cleaner companies except Hoover and Air-Way couldn't care less about their history. Last year, there was a book written, which I haven't read yet. I question the accuracy of this, as the author is not a vacuum cleaner collector. Both John and I thought about writing one but there wasn't enough info out there, and mind you, we'd been involved with vacuum cleaners all our lives. And yes, I'm mentioned in the book, but if the author can't get my name right, how can he be right on other things? As for my Kirby research, I intend to keep my ears wide open at this convention, and hopefully can correct facts that I got wrong. See you in Cleveland, Alex Taber. | ||
| Post# 280852 , Reply# 25 5/17/2014 at 14:12 (3,629 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
John, | ||
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Post# 280861 , Reply# 26 5/17/2014 at 16:10 (3,629 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Actually, I | ||
| Post# 280876 , Reply# 27 5/17/2014 at 18:17 (3,628 days old) by Caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut) | ||
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Hi super-sweeper
Yes it's Alex, but I'm not a Dr., I'm a retired nurse.
The problems we have today is that companies like Electrolux are gone, or renamed. The movers and shakers of the vacuum cleaner industry were starting to die off when John Lucia and I were kids, what's out there now is a ghost of what it once was. Both John and I were blessed to have been born in the early 1950's, and soaked up information like a sponge, but we were too young for people to take us seriously, they though it was a passing interest. It was not! Ad to the fact that we were on opposite sides of the country, John in California, and me in Connecticut. Also we both thought we were the only kids on the planet into vacuum cleaners. We didn't even know about each other till 1981 when Stacy Krammes at Hoover, put us in touch with each other. And in the early years,were swapping notes like crazy. The rest as they say is history. When I went to see the Hoover Historical Center in August of 1980, it was merely as an enthusiast, with no idea of forming a club, but as I look back, this was indeed my laying the groundwork of the V.C.C.C. though it took John and I going there in 82 to solidify it. For the first 12 years of the V.C.C.C., I was the writer, editor and publisher. What most people don't know was that I also paid every dime of our expenses! Also, there were no dues until it got so big that I needed help with postage and what not. And let me also set the record straight, neither John Lucia or I wanted officers in the club! As I said in the last post, I had acquired the history of a few companies, but not enough for a book. All I had were notes like 'The Man who revolutionized the American home' by Lowell Thomas, 'Fabulous Dustpan by Frank G. Hoover, and a few notes on the history of Electrolux. The problem here is, if those facts are incorrect then I pass on wrong information. There are many things about the V.C.C.C. that people don't know, and the key people are no longer with us to tell the truth. But the main reason John and I started this, was to teach. We wanted to pass on our knowledge, and serve as a sounding board, as well as resource center for the collectors out there. And that's exactly what Vacuum Land is today. 
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Post# 280912 , Reply# 29 5/18/2014 at 00:05 (3,628 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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You'll need to reserve your room | ||
| Post# 281129 , Reply# 30 5/19/2014 at 20:54 (3,626 days old) by papasvacs (Lauderdale Lakes, FL) | ||
Hi Barb....... Just haven't seen anything about the convention. Registration forms? Hotel information?
Can we still register?
John L., still want to share a room? We need to talk.
Need to get moving if we can attend. Can't believe I waited so long but still moving very slow since my "medical catastrophe!!"
Any info you can pass on to me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much,
Greg F. | ||
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Post# 281145 , Reply# 31 5/19/2014 at 22:58 (3,626 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Greg....... may I call you Greg? | ||
| Post# 281151 , Reply# 32 5/20/2014 at 02:12 (3,626 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH) | ||
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Post# 281169 , Reply# 33 5/20/2014 at 07:10 (3,626 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA) |
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| Post# 281183 , Reply# 34 5/20/2014 at 12:54 (3,626 days old) by papasvacs (Lauderdale Lakes, FL) | ||
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Thanks, Morgan! | ||
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Post# 281193 , Reply# 35 5/20/2014 at 15:19 (3,626 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Wil, | ||
| Post# 281270 , Reply# 36 5/20/2014 at 23:13 (3,625 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH) | ||
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Post# 281275 , Reply# 37 5/20/2014 at 23:35 (3,625 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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It would be "custom" | ||
| Post# 281284 , Reply# 38 5/21/2014 at 02:33 (3,625 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH) | ||
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Post# 281316 , Reply# 39 5/21/2014 at 11:23 (3,625 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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I'll do my best. You sure you want a small? | ||
| Post# 281339 , Reply# 40 5/21/2014 at 14:57 (3,625 days old) by vacmom (Georgetown, TX) | ||
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Will & John Will, I already ordered you a t-shirt. John, Sean is attending! Barb | ||
| Post# 281354 , Reply# 41 5/21/2014 at 18:15 (3,624 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH) | ||
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barb sorry for imbedding another conversation with this post, but the shirt im talking to john about is a hoover t-shirt since it came to mind reading this thread. i know you already have a kirby shirt saved for me :)
john yes, im sure a small. mediums make me look like middle school kid wearing his high school brother's clothing. trust me a small is the right size | ||
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Post# 281363 , Reply# 42 5/21/2014 at 19:21 (3,624 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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ok | ||
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