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Thread Number: 24911
Silver King, the most undeservingly maligned vacuum amongst collectors. |
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| Post# 280049 5/10/2014 at 16:24 (3,631 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
I know most collectors who know of or have heard of Silver Kings have said things like they clog up immediately or they're just so outdated and clunky, but I love the damn things, I think they're great vacuums.
I love how light they are for an all metal vacuum, and on the wheels they used it pulls around easily. It is a noisy vacuum though, with a 2 can bypass cooled lamb motor in an all metal housing, it does have a lot of rushing air noise, it's not loud, just a large quantity of noise. And I can fill the whole can with dirt before I lose much power at all. The newer filters, best described as a HEPA bag made into a flat round filter disk, filters very well and they shed the dirt back off into the can better than the old paper filters, and they also don't clog easily. The Douglas PN is OK, nothing special in the quality department, but it meets the requirements needed to clean well, it has a good chevron brush and the bristles do groom the rug well. But it is a $40 PN on a $1800 (back when this was new) vacuum... I'm watching my aunt and uncles dogs while they're gone, so I brought my black Silver King to their house. I vacuumed the whole house very thoroughly 2 timed and packed the can full as you can see, and I didn't lose any power at all. They have a Dyson DC17. 
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| Post# 280050 , Reply# 1 5/10/2014 at 16:24 (3,631 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
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| Post# 280059 , Reply# 3 5/10/2014 at 17:49 (3,631 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin) | ||
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Wow that thing is full. I can only imagine how many times the water would have stopped moving in one of the water trap vacuums. I have done it a couple of times. I hope the Dyson supporters see this. One could have undoubtly filled a bag or two on the Kirby. | ||
| Post# 280093 , Reply# 4 5/11/2014 at 00:03 (3,631 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
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| Post# 280108 , Reply# 5 5/11/2014 at 08:14 (3,631 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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| Post# 280109 , Reply# 6 5/11/2014 at 08:23 (3,631 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
The new filters
Are pretty good, i've got the newest model (to my knowledge) the blue max air 2000. It came with a pump style hose and a wessel werks nozzle. The only real complaint i have about the thing is the noise level, other than that it's a well built vacuum that performs very well.
I'm honestly horrified that you managed to dig all that out with that douglas power head. | ||
| Post# 280166 , Reply# 9 5/11/2014 at 16:49 (3,630 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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Wow that's a shocking sight. LOL It looks somewhat similar to a Filter Queen. I guess it might be a play on words... Filter QUEEN... Silver KING... | ||
| Post# 280177 , Reply# 10 5/11/2014 at 18:05 (3,630 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
silver queen, filter king, | ||
| Post# 280180 , Reply# 11 5/11/2014 at 18:09 (3,630 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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By the way, does anyone know who makes Douglas nozzles? Never heard of them before. | ||
| Post# 280253 , Reply# 13 5/12/2014 at 14:43 (3,629 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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Actually... They clean quite well, My Metropolitan tank has one.Douglas is whats left of the old Kingston company. | ||
| Post# 280259 , Reply# 14 5/12/2014 at 15:34 (3,629 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN) | ||
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Silver Knight By coincidence my red and chrome Silver Knight will be on EBay this week.Should have some nice Silver King attachments in original gray caddy next week. | ||
| Post# 280342 , Reply# 15 5/13/2014 at 12:26 (3,628 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
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I emptied the bin and the next two vacuumings got much less hair, but tons of sand and grit. I then shampooed, sadly al I had to use there was their Hoover Dual V steamvac with a motor that sounded like the bearings were totally dry and I swear it smelled like it was burning out, but I did manage to make the carpet look a bit better. Would have been better if I felt like bringing over my Rinse'N'Vac, that would have had the carpet looking like new! I could rant on for hours about how useless I think the "residential grade" shampooers are, no water pressure and pitiful suction, but anyway... After shampooing I dumped the Silver King again and with a fresh filter I vacuumed over the shampooed areas after they dried and kept getting sand, I vacuumed every few hours, making a total of 6-7 thorough vacuumings and got so much sand, almost a whole cup of sand in that damn Silver King! The Douglas PN isn't anything special, but it does have good enough performance.
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| Post# 280377 , Reply# 16 5/13/2014 at 16:53 (3,628 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
Hope you check out the Dyson while you're there. The DC17 is an awesome vacuum when properly working. Is the brush bristles worn? Is the filter (both pre and post motor) clean? The DC17 should have removed all the sand as well as the fluff. You know how aggressive the DC17's brush is, but that machine is an old vacuum now and probably needs brushes and filters.
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| Post# 280378 , Reply# 17 5/13/2014 at 17:11 (3,628 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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he's using the Silver King, | ||
Post# 280439 , Reply# 18 5/14/2014 at 03:17 (3,628 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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Silver King vs Dyson-The Silver King is the winner!!!!Always wanted one--but wince at the 4K prices!!!It is a commercial type machine.Have heard of them used commercially.The Silver King has to be the ultimate "bagless" cleaner! | ||
| Post# 280499 , Reply# 20 5/14/2014 at 14:38 (3,627 days old) by ultralux88 (Denver, Colorado) | ||
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They vacuum several times a week, usually ever 2-3 days. The Dyson's shortcoming isn't in the brushroll department, for some rugs it's brushroll is actually too much. The issue is that is has relatively low airflow, you really need to be moving some air to get the deep down dirt out. The SK simply moved more air than the Dyson. Dyson's have very strong suction but don't always move a high volume of air. The DC23 is one that I know does move a ton of air. I also think the DC07 moves more air. The most powerful upright Dyson's I've seen have all been 07s with the original plastic fan YDK motors, which is what my DC07 has in it too. The 17 uses the same rather wimpy motor as many of the Kenmore canisters made at the same time, I've used the Dyson motors in those Kenmores, so I know it's the same, and I feel it doesn't give great airflow in the Kenmore or Panasonic canisters either. To be hones the only Dyson that ever impressed me with it's cleaning ability is the DC23 motorhead.
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| Post# 355257 , Reply# 22 7/3/2016 at 09:20 (2,847 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York) | ||
I have a mint green Silver King AE.
It's a decent vacuum. The suction on it is great. I found that my plastic Compact hose fits it, so I can use tools with it. I made a new filter out of a HEPA bag to sit OVER the paper filter. It filters much better now and has better airflow and suction. I'm thinking of getting the Volt at some point too, just not soon.
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