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Post# 279786   5/8/2014 at 20:24 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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On the same day that I bought my Kirby Legend/Heritage II (in the Vintage section) I found this Miele Blue Moon canister.

 

Works well.... Though I don't know anything about Mieles so uhh... Help please?
Post# 279787 , Reply# 1   5/8/2014 at 20:25 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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Front of canister
Post# 279789 , Reply# 2   5/8/2014 at 20:25 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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The suction head has seen better days...
Post# 279790 , Reply# 3   5/8/2014 at 20:26 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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I don't know if this helps anyone... But I figured I post it anyway.
Post# 279791 , Reply# 4   5/8/2014 at 20:27 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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Missing one tool, but what do you expect for $12.99?
Post# 279792 , Reply# 5   5/8/2014 at 20:27 (3,638 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia)        
its missing

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The power brush...

Post# 279793 , Reply# 6   5/8/2014 at 20:27 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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Bag compartment is fairly clean.
Post# 279794 , Reply# 7   5/8/2014 at 20:28 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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Filter... Again. Don't know jack about this. What part number is this? It'd be nice to buy a new one or (since it's not that dirty) how to clean it.
Post# 279795 , Reply# 8   5/8/2014 at 20:29 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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Pre motor filter? (Part number please?)

 

I seriously feel so stupid working on this machine. I know nothing.
Post# 279796 , Reply# 9   5/8/2014 at 20:30 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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The stuff under the baby blue filter. (Looks like rabbit pellets.)
Post# 279801 , Reply# 10   5/8/2014 at 21:09 (3,638 days old) by vackid (Pennsylvania)        

You got a great deal on that machine. That is the largest machine Miele has ever made, even the new S8, with the same size bag and motor, is substantially smaller and probably weigh half as much. That machine retailed with SEB236 (Biggest Nozzle) For around 1200 dollars when it was new, so you definitely got a good deal on it. It takes the G/N Style dust bags, which are the largest they make. I think it's a rule to only use genuine bags and filters in a Miele. Using Envirocare or knock off bags, as good as they may be when compared to other OEM bags, just do not compare to the 9 layer AirClean bags that Miele makes. They have self-sealing collar, instead of the old style that sealed whenever you pulled them out, still causing a dirt poof. The genuine G/N bag package will include the pre-motor filter with it. The HEPA filter should probably be replaced as the last order of genuine filters that came in, that still were the Active HEPA, didn't have Miele written into the filter frame on them, and I don't think they've done that in quite sometime. The new HEPA Filters don't have the carbon in them, but they have increased the filtration area so they're going to 99.9% down to .01 micron, where the last one, was only down to .03 microns.

I'm a Miele dealer so if you need anything, just send me an email and I can get them sent out to you...or if you don't want to keep this, hit me up and I'll buy it from you.

Evan

Post# 279805 , Reply# 11   5/8/2014 at 21:40 (3,638 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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Awesome information! Thanks!

 

How much am I looking at for like 3 - 5 bags and a new filter? I probably won't be able to buy it for a while since I just dropped $100 on Kirby parts, but I'd like to know what I'd be looking at to get a usable machine.

 

- Will
Post# 279809 , Reply# 12   5/8/2014 at 22:47 (3,638 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Probably

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About 75+ miele's parts are spendy. The filter for my Silver moon was 50, and the pack of bags was about 25.

Post# 279863 , Reply# 13   5/9/2014 at 10:16 (3,637 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Um, the existing HEPA filter cartridges in blue DO have carbon on the underside - same as the Active Air Clean filters - only difference is that the HEPA filter has paper pleats on the top.

Miele in the UK have just released the TimeStrip versions, which will also fit that model. However the old part number is "SF-AH 30 Active HEPA Filter." The new one with TimeStrip is called "SF-HA 30" and now in white.

The dust bag from Miele that would fit that S600 model is the GN HyClean series as the bag area is bigger, designed to accommodate the bigger capacity.

Link to user manual. If it doesn't work, I can email it to you.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK
Post# 279902 , Reply# 14   5/9/2014 at 16:40 (3,637 days old) by vackid (Pennsylvania)        

Sorry if I wasn't clear. Miele USA has discontinued the old style HEPA Filters with Active Carbon. They have been replaced by the new HEPA Filters with the TimeStrip system. The advantages with the new filter is the time strip, which when activated, causes a chemical reaction over a years worth of time, letting you know when it's time to change the filter. Works well in the normal home but if you're a vacuum collector, using multiple machines, it may take 5 years for that machine to get the use it would normally get in a years worth of use in a normal home environment. The reason for the change of filter design is because they wanted more room for more filtration area, so they removed the charcoal and increased the HEPA filter size, increasing its effectiveness to 99.95% down to .01 microns. They needed to make this change to comply with Europe's stringent HEPA 13 standards.

And just a FYI, the HyClean bags were discontinued only a few months after being introduced in the states, too many straps, that were designed to slow the air down, were causing pet hair to not make it the whole way into the bag, so they revised them. They are now known as the AirClean bag. Still 9 layers, still a layer of protective netting to guard against sharp objects piercing the bag, but the straps have been altered and redesigned to better distribute the dirt and deal with pet hair better.

Post# 279903 , Reply# 15   5/9/2014 at 16:42 (3,637 days old) by vackid (Pennsylvania)        

In regards to the pricing on the filters, a quick search on amazon will show you the MAP, Minimum Advertised Price for these products. The G/N bags, which includes the pre motor filter, are 19.95 for 4, normally a year supply for most homes and the HEPA filter for the Blue Moon model is 49.95.

Post# 279904 , Reply# 16   5/9/2014 at 16:46 (3,637 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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Hmmm. Can I soak the HEPA filter in bleach or something to clean it? I can't really afford $50 for a filter on a vacuum I'm not gonna use very often.

 

Selling this may just be the best idea right now...
Post# 279922 , Reply# 17   5/9/2014 at 19:49 (3,637 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Gosh, the US are quick to move with their Miele parts aren't they? Thank you for that information and for clarifying what is next from Miele with the AirClean series bags. The UK market and Miele UK are still selling HyClean dust bags, here.

The TimeStrip versions of the filters have only just come to the UK market too. Miele haven't added any new ones for the S100/stick vac ranges yet but the price increases for the old AAC and HEPA filter are slightly higher priced. I can't help but feel that the TimeStrip is a marketing spin on owners being forced or pressured to spend more on filter replacements, though.

If the carbon has been removed, I beg to wonder how the filters will cope with pet hair. Normally the old filters are pretty good in my experience, but they need the added carbon.

Post# 279925 , Reply# 18   5/9/2014 at 19:56 (3,637 days old) by joshdonnell ()        

No you can't clean the filter in bleach. It will have to be replaced. Maybe you can find on one for a cheaper price.

Post# 279976 , Reply# 19   5/10/2014 at 06:56 (3,636 days old) by vackid (Pennsylvania)        

I think for US dealers we will begin selling more Active Air Clean filters, with the timestrip then we did before. The Active HEPA before was like a fit all filter for everything, now if someone is concerned with pet odors, we will suggest the active air clean filter.

If you're interested in selling it, hit me up and we will talk more about it. I'm interested in getting a early 2000's Miele for my collection.

Evan

Post# 280020 , Reply# 20   5/10/2014 at 13:17 (3,636 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
That is One Miele I love

 I absolutely love the beautiful colour of that vacuum:)

It has to be the quietest Miele I've heared.
Wow!
Great find.

Post# 280069 , Reply# 21   5/10/2014 at 20:15 (3,636 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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WOW! Very nice Miele find there, TASE! And you certainly can't beat the price you paid for it. However, consider yourself lucky you didn't get the PN with the vacuum. Here in Canada, you could choose between either the SEB217 or the SEB236 with fluorescent light & height adjustment. But the SEB236 was very problematic when first released....had problems with the ballast malfunctioning & the fluorescent light not working properly, & also the wiring in the quick release neck breaking easily. If you do buy a new PN for it, insist on buying a new one in the box from a authorized Miele dealer, in case you have problems with it.

Rob

Post# 280150 , Reply# 22   5/11/2014 at 14:31 (3,635 days old) by TASE (Colorado)        

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I would consider a power nozzle but I'm 70% sure I'm selling it.

Thanks for the info though.

Post# 280154 , Reply# 23   5/11/2014 at 15:16 (3,635 days old) by vackid (Pennsylvania)        

As I mentioned, if you're going to sell it. Hit me up and we will talk numbers...

Post# 280194 , Reply# 24   5/11/2014 at 20:04 (3,635 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The AAC filters have always been recommended for pet owners and smokers. However, having just sold my Miele S5 to a friend who is both a smoker and a pet owner, the AAC filter isn't strong enough to combat the smell of the dog hair. I have already ordered her a new Miele HEPA filter and we'll see how that goes.


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