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| Post# 274635 4/3/2014 at 15:17 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
Hi everyone! I just picked up and brought home my newest Kirby babies! I'm so excited to have my first Kirbys! I thought I would share some pics of them as is before I go ahead a clean them up! They all have minor issues, nothing I can't fix! The Heritage II's cord is taped, missing end caps on back wheels, the black plastic emptor is cracked, missing rug plate, and missing brush roll. The guy I bought them from plugged both of them in and the Heritage II runs great!!! He just needs some love! The Dual Sanitronic 50 wants to lay down, so right now have to have it leaned up against the wall and when the guy turned him on, it's runs, but I heard the bearings. I'm not scared, he just needs some extra love! Hopefully tonight if I have time I can sit and at least polish them up! I will list more pics once I start working on them! If anyone has any comments, tips, info, that would be great! The more I can learn about a Kirby the happier I will be!!! :) -Michelle
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| Post# 274636 , Reply# 1 4/3/2014 at 15:18 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274637 , Reply# 2 4/3/2014 at 15:19 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274638 , Reply# 3 4/3/2014 at 15:20 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274639 , Reply# 4 4/3/2014 at 15:21 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274640 , Reply# 5 4/3/2014 at 15:22 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274642 , Reply# 6 4/3/2014 at 15:22 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274643 , Reply# 7 4/3/2014 at 15:23 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274644 , Reply# 8 4/3/2014 at 15:24 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274645 , Reply# 9 4/3/2014 at 15:24 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274646 , Reply# 10 4/3/2014 at 15:25 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274647 , Reply# 11 4/3/2014 at 15:26 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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Post# 274651 , Reply# 12 4/3/2014 at 15:50 (3,673 days old) by KirbyClassicIII  (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 274655 , Reply# 14 4/3/2014 at 16:23 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274657 , Reply# 15 4/3/2014 at 16:26 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274659 , Reply# 16 4/3/2014 at 16:29 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274670 , Reply# 17 4/3/2014 at 18:49 (3,673 days old) by TASE (Colorado) | ||
 Yes, your Kirby was made in February of 1987.
Turbo means you can use a turbo brush (I think? I think the Heritage was the first one to have the Turbo brush, resulting in it saying "Turbo" on it.)
Bearings on the Kirby will be easy to replace. You just need one special tool, a Ring Tool (www.amazon.com/TEKTON-3576-Heavy-...)
That would be for the front bearing, for the back bearing you would need a tool like a miniature Arbor press or something similar. Hopefully someone else can tell you the name of it, as I cannot remember it for the life of me. (I've used a piece of wood big enough to fit around the arm of the armature and then have two people strike a mallet on each side to press it down. This is not a good method though.)
I've also noticed that you will need a bag ring for the Heritage II and DS50, though I didn't look for a DS50 bag ring (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kirby-Vacuum-Cle...
I still don't know if your DS50's bag is a Tradition bag or not. Any chance you can show us a back and then a nice close up of the fabric?
However, I do know your DS50's cord has been replaced with a DS80 cord.
I think you'll be putting about $60 to $100 in the Heritage II. A cord will be $20, a brushroll will be about $20, A sole plate will be $10 to $20, and then a bag ring will be $7 if you end up fixing the emptor. If you don't, you'll be looking at $40 for an emptor.
If all the DS50 needs are some bearings, you're looking at the cost of tools if you don't have them, and $20ish for the bearings as a set. (Though, I sort of doubt the back bearing is going.) You may want to invest in a new brushroll (just because) and maybe a Heritage II/Legend bag and emptor if you want a disposable bag system. | ||
| Post# 274705 , Reply# 19 4/3/2014 at 21:10 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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TASE
Thank you so very much for all of the wonderful information!!!!!! This will help me out greatly!!! All I've done so far is clean the dirt off of them and kinda start the process of polishing them. I will definitely take some more pics of the DS50's bag tomorrow for you! I want to know all about the Kirbys! I just couldn't pass up $35.00 for both of them! I do have another question. Can I wash their outer bags? If so, what and how do I go about doing it as to not destroy them? Thanks again!!!! :) -Michelle
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Post# 274706 , Reply# 20 4/3/2014 at 21:10 (3,673 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 274707 , Reply# 21 4/3/2014 at 21:12 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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Post# 274708 , Reply# 22 4/3/2014 at 21:12 (3,673 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 274709 , Reply# 23 4/3/2014 at 21:21 (3,673 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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KirbyClassicIII
Thanks for the info on the DS50!!! I am learning so much about Kirbys that my head is spinning!!! I'm trying to remember everything that people are telling me! Which is cool, I actually have a spiral notebook for all of my hobbies and write down what I need to know and remember. I collect and restore vintage clock radios, stand and hand mixers, vacuums, and chainsaws. I'm just getting started with vacuum collecting and learning their mysterious ways! Ha Ha! Thanks again! I love learning! The only way you become smart is to ask a lot of questions! :) -Michelle
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| Post# 274711 , Reply# 24 4/3/2014 at 21:36 (3,672 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
Chainsaws! | ||
| Post# 274724 , Reply# 25 4/3/2014 at 23:48 (3,672 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth) | ||
The DS50 is easy to replace the bearings.
The front bearing is mounted in the bearing plate. Once you get the fan off the armature there are four screws holding the bearing plate in place. This will slide forward on the armature and come off, the bearing will just pop out of the back of the bearing plate. For the rear bearing you need to remove the carbon brushes then you should be able to remove the armature and the rear bearing will be on the back end of the armature. Be careful not to lose the spring washer that is in the bearing well behind the back bearing. It presses against the washer that backs the rear bearing. The handle spring is not a big problem, it's fairly easy to replace but you do need a special tool the put tension on the spring so it will hold up the handle. It's a lot easier on the 516 and later models, the 505 to 515 require some really fun maneuvers and two special tools. For bearings the front bearing is a NTN 8500 (accurate bearing 87500) the rear bearing is a ND 87007 (accurate bearing 87007) Both bearings have a step ( the center of the bearing is thicker than the outside fof the bearing) the step on the front bearing goes into the bearing plate toward the backside of the plate. The rear bearing the step goes toward the commutator and then slides into the well in the motor housing. | ||
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Post# 274725 , Reply# 26 4/4/2014 at 00:04 (3,672 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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| Post# 274726 , Reply# 27 4/4/2014 at 00:23 (3,672 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth) | ||
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Opps forgot to mention that you would only need the ring tool on a G series bearing plate, you don't need it for the DS50 the bearing is just pressed into place.
The rear bearing puller is Kirby #T125 The Spring tool is Kirby #T123 Also to get the fan off of the armature, when you look inside the motor thru the vent near the bottom you will see a hole in the armature. You can use the fan locking pin Kirby #T104 or I just use 1/8" piano wire (found at your local hardware store) Insert the wire or tool into the hole in the armature to hold from turning then turn the fan and belt pulley clockwise to take it off so you can get to the bearing plate. If you have to replace the bearings on the Heritage, once you get the fan off then the whole motor comes out the back because there is no removable bearing plate. The bearing is in a well in the motor housing. picture of bearing with step 
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| Post# 274732 , Reply# 28 4/4/2014 at 07:34 (3,672 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274735 , Reply# 29 4/4/2014 at 07:58 (3,672 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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super-sweeper
Thanks for liking my chainsaw!!! That's me holding "Mr. Poppet"! I have 8 of those models so far. In all, between my husband's collection and mine, we have 115 chainsaws as of now, that changes almost daily! We collect, rebuild, and restore them! The one in the pic is my first saw and favorite! Hence, I own 8 of them! That's a Sears D-44 Automatic Oiler. There's not a lot of info out there on this model, but from what research I have done, it's mid 60's - early 70's. I named him "Mr. Poppet" because on the cylinder, there's a de-compression valve and another name for it is a poppet valve. When my husband was first teaching me about chainsaws, I was amazed by the valve and loved the name! My husband actually painted that him for me. That was the first saw I ever had and learned how to fix! I paint, rebuild, and restore them now! I restored a 1979 Homelite XL 12 that I named "Walton". I got him at a garage sale for $10.00! I did 98.9% of the work on him by myself. I only needed help removing the flywheel, clutch, and reassembling the oil lines (they're a little tricky on that style of saw). The pic is of "Walton". A nice before and after for ya to see, plus a pic of me painting him! Thanks again! :) -Michelle
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| Post# 274736 , Reply# 30 4/4/2014 at 07:59 (3,672 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274737 , Reply# 31 4/4/2014 at 08:00 (3,672 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274738 , Reply# 32 4/4/2014 at 08:02 (3,672 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 274739 , Reply# 33 4/4/2014 at 08:07 (3,672 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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KirbyClassicIII
Thanks! I will enjoy my vacuums forever! Once I get something to add to my collection, I will fix it and use it forever! There's nothing like old vintage stuff!!! Everything that is old that I collect, I will use and enjoy forever! I use a 1961 Sears Kenmore electric can opener everyday, a 1205 Electrolux everyday, old mixers ranging from the 30's to the 90's, and get woke up everyday to a vintage tube clock radio! Life to me can't get any better than that!!! :) -Michelle
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| Post# 274746 , Reply# 34 4/4/2014 at 10:59 (3,672 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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Michelle, | ||
| Post# 274749 , Reply# 35 4/4/2014 at 11:59 (3,672 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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super-sweeper
Thanks a lot! Ha Ha Phyllis!!! The Kirbys especially will look the nicest. My husband restores antique cars for a living. That in-tales painting, metal fabrication, and the general knowledge on how to restore stuff. He's not into vacuums, but he wanted to take my DS50 apart last night and fix the bearings and polish them both up! He's kinda taken a liking to the DS50! I told him it's because they're the same age! Ha Ha! He wants to find the original bag for it, but if we can't find one, we could make one. We wouldn't be able to recreate it exactly, but we could at least try to find a material that would fit more into the beige/rose family. I actually read a thread on here yesterday about someone sewing/making their own bags. Now I have to remember where and who it was! Anyways, I've got my mom's 1205 basically into shell form. I gotta sandblast him and have my husband match the paint. I got a thread on him. It was my mom's and she passed away recently so I demanded it because it was in their garbage heap! It's quite toasty, to most wouldn't be worth fixing. I love him and his name is "Lux". How original I know! Ha Ha! My "Lux" is missing his back wheel, top handle, and castor. We have this vacuum that was in the basement for years that someone left here and I know it's a Eureka, looks like a Princess, but I know it's not. It's missing everything and is too far gone to repair, but it has 2 good back wheels on it and I'm thinking about using them temporarily for "Lux" until I can find his correct ones. What's cool is, for the shape he's in, rusted, and missing everything, he still runs great and the cord winder works perfectly!!! Go figure! I'm done rambling for now! Ha Ha! :) -Michelle
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| Post# 274813 , Reply# 37 4/4/2014 at 21:45 (3,671 days old) by Anachronism () | ||
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| Post# 275043 , Reply# 38 4/6/2014 at 19:47 (3,670 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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Anachronism
WOW!!! I'm totally blown away by both of your capabilities and totally jealous!!! I love the simple archaic way of using tools and basically using yourself as a tool! It's a true art form! My husband does metal work and I do shrinking and tucking by using a log with a concave circle carved into it. So far all I've made is a bowl. It was made from a flat sheet of 20 gauge galvanized steel that I beat the bejesus out of with different body hammers strategically. Hence, I was shrinking and stretching the metal to form it into a bowl. There are no hammer marks in it either. It looks like a metal bowl you would buy at the store! I want to get into making different three dimension flowers as well, plus this summer I'm gonna start learning how to do chainsaw carvings! I love watching WYCC channel 20 it's a PBS station out of Chicago and the show is called "The Woodwright Shop", he makes stuff with treadle machines or foot powered. It's amazing!!! I'm really drawn to wood and I want to learn how to do wood carvings, but do it the old school way, no electric power tools!!! I used to live in Minnesota and my parents' are friends with a guy that makes his own harnesses for draft horses. I know he makes saddle bags, probably anything that's leather related. Very cool!!! I would love to see more pics of the stuff you guys do!!! Thanks for sharing!!!! :) -Michelle
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| Post# 275048 , Reply# 39 4/6/2014 at 21:53 (3,669 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 275151 , Reply# 41 4/7/2014 at 19:21 (3,669 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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| Post# 275219 , Reply# 42 4/8/2014 at 15:36 (3,668 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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Anachronism
Wow amazing that you have pre-chainsaws!!! I would love to see pics of those!!! Very cool history you have about your tools!!! That is so interesting and neat! I am still totally jealous of your tools! I'm hoping to have my husband make me some that look like the Woodwright Shops got! I'm just blown away by the black smithing skills!! We are both really into that!!! My husband always jokes around with me about how he was born in the wrong time! Ha Ha! It's just amazing what you guys do! Good job! :) -Michelle
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| Post# 275220 , Reply# 43 4/8/2014 at 15:37 (3,668 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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| Post# 275226 , Reply# 44 4/8/2014 at 16:45 (3,668 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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Michelle, I'm sorry, I had an eBay link that didn't paste. Feel free to call me Alex. CLICK HERE TO GO TO super-sweeper's LINK on eBay | ||
| Post# 275237 , Reply# 45 4/8/2014 at 19:12 (3,668 days old) by Luxy1205 (Wilmington, IL) | ||
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Alex
Thanks so much!!! I actually got an email from a Kirby guy on VacuumLand that sells NOS Kirby parts. I can't remember if he said he used to work for Kirby, or if he acquired or bought all those parts. He's pretty reasonable, within the realm of Ebay prices. I think once we take both the Kirby vacs apart, then we will know for sure what we will need. Until we go thru the DS50, I don't want to start buying bearings for front and rear if I don't need them. I do know I need a rug plate for Mr. HII! That little Kirbage is missing a lot of his goodies! Ha Ha! :) -Michelle
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| Post# 275247 , Reply# 46 4/8/2014 at 20:39 (3,668 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
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