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Post# 272764   3/20/2014 at 20:51 (3,661 days old) by vacmanjay ()        

Need some help fellas... just got a Genesis on ebay and want to know what kind of attachments go with this unit. Is there a port for power to the sidkick or it is non powered??

Also, cant read the model number so im unable to download the manual.

Drop me a line if anyone has the same unit sitting in their collection... I know someone has to LOL

Thanks Jay


Post# 272765 , Reply# 1   3/20/2014 at 21:09 (3,661 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Yes!

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Electrolux sold a an attachment kit that connects onto that knob on the top of the bag chamber. If you bought the electrified hose kit, then yes, you can run the Side kick. The electrified hose connects suction-wise like a normal hose, but is electrified by connecting into to cord on back-let me do some more research and get back to you on that!


Post# 272766 , Reply# 2   3/20/2014 at 21:14 (3,661 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

Hello Jay,
that machine was also the Epic 3000 I have one in the collection that is in some need of help lol. good machine though! the genesis is one of my dream machines to be found.

now to answer your question...

I am not sure as to weather or not this machine had the electric port on it.
I posted a link to a hose and attachments for you Below! now I know that they are not genuine but work great! another thing to add is that these machines will lose airflow as they fill up and become very weak at the hose. Other than that it is an excellent machine!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO electroluxxxx's LINK on eBay


Post# 272772 , Reply# 3   3/20/2014 at 21:35 (3,661 days old) by vacmanjay ()        

Thank you Super Sweeper - Due to the listing they didnt go into great detail. Looking around I see some have the electric cords and some dont? I may just have to wait till I get the vac :(

AND

Thank you also electroluxxxx - That looks like a great addition and a long hose. Yes this one is in need of some TLC too. Thats why I got it for 24.00, says it needs a motor for the brush but the vac it self works great... as per the listing.

Do either of you know what the diffrenc would be in the LX (mine) to the LXE?? wonder if the (E) is for the powered hose LOL


Post# 272773 , Reply# 4   3/20/2014 at 21:38 (3,661 days old) by vacmanjay ()        
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Post# 272774 , Reply# 5   3/20/2014 at 21:40 (3,661 days old) by vacmanjay ()        
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Post# 272777 , Reply# 6   3/20/2014 at 22:03 (3,661 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
I did Research!

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Yes, you CAN use the side-kick with your Genesis! That grey thing on the bottom cord wrap appears to be the plug for the electric hose connection. I found this photo by fellow vacuumland member KLOVELAND- In which you can see the Genesis style electric hose and the plug which connects into that little gray socket I pointed out!

 

Now all you need to do is purchase the electric hose!

I hope this helped!Laughing


Post# 272781 , Reply# 7   3/20/2014 at 22:15 (3,661 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Plug

in for the electric hose is at the back at the bottom right of the handle. Plug port at the lid is where you put the hose into. Side kick is available with the deluxe attachment set . Before getting a motor for the brushroll make sure the reset button is pushed. It is a safety switch when something gets caught in the brushroll and shuts motor off protecting the belt from breaking. If you need an attachment set let me know and I will see what I can do for you.

Post# 272786 , Reply# 8   3/20/2014 at 22:28 (3,661 days old) by vacmanjay ()        

Yea it does look like there's a port for something!!!! Yes ebay has a couple I really like and for not much. A small gamble, but hell I can use the sidekick with my Marquise canister

Post# 272795 , Reply# 9   3/20/2014 at 23:00 (3,661 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
I have

been selling them for years since they came out.


Post# 272958 , Reply# 10   3/22/2014 at 06:49 (3,659 days old) by vacmanjay ()        

Thank you for the info tig21er ... I was able to zoom in on mine and others and saw the port more clearly. It's possible too that the power switch is faulty in the 3rd position to run the brush roll or it's the motor. Was able to purchase a good looking caddy of accessories for 33+shipping so looks like I'm all set, but thank you for the offer just the same!!!

Post# 272976 , Reply# 11   3/22/2014 at 10:52 (3,659 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
I wonder,

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If you could Connect the nozzle to a different Electrolux machine in order to determine the cause of failure being the motor or the switch?


Post# 272979 , Reply# 12   3/22/2014 at 12:32 (3,659 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

this machine should have a reset switch on the rear of the machine, if it is not there then it should be located at the top of the nozzle. if the switch has not been triggered then most likely it is the motor and I think I might have a spare!

Post# 272991 , Reply# 13   3/22/2014 at 14:26 (3,659 days old) by vacmanjay ()        

electroluxxxx - I will test it out and see whats what on the vacuum. If you do have one let me know for sure and we can work out payment and shipping!!

Post# 273432 , Reply# 14   3/25/2014 at 17:49 (3,656 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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Electrolux offered a longer electrified hose that has a pigtail off the connector that goes into the top of the bag door on the upright and plugs into the connector next to the base of the handle. Then you could use your sidekick with the upright. Or if you're really bored you could run a power nozzle off of your upright.

Post# 273462 , Reply# 15   3/25/2014 at 21:38 (3,656 days old) by vacu-finder ()        

What is the big difference between the Genesis and the older Discovery. I had a Discovery once great machine. Anyway great find.

Post# 273478 , Reply# 16   3/25/2014 at 23:19 (3,656 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

Vacufinder

there really is no difference with any of them. They either have headlights or powerhead outlets... The most common feature with most models is the bag check indicator. Motors and construction seem to be all the same


Post# 274091 , Reply# 17   3/29/2014 at 23:03 (3,652 days old) by vacmanjay ()        
All arrived

So got the vacuum and just today the accessorie kit. After I assembled the vac I turned it on and everything works ... Light and brush, previously stated it didn't work. But I think it's in need of a new belt as it sounds really ruff and not the typical Electrolux sounds of a PN. Might be a bearing too?? Accessories work great and the suction is ok. Bag isn't that full but may need a few new filter. All in all not a bad vac I like that it's lighter then my hoover windtunnel that I use to clean houses with. This may be my new vac for just that as I don't want to use my sanitaire I just bought. It was new and missing the handel screws ... May turn around and sell that, it to was a cheep find at 90$ free shipping 😃

Anyone got an idea about the ruff sounding power head? Also needs a new bottom plate ... Anyone got on just laying around?

Cheers Jay


Post# 274488 , Reply# 18   4/1/2014 at 22:02 (3,649 days old) by BikerRay (Middle Earth)        

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Quick question - when you turn the unit over so the bottom of the unit is up can you take your fingers and move the brush roll, does the brush roll move up and down (meaning twards the opening and twards the top of the housing)? If it does the bottom plate may be welled out and the brush is moving up and down in the housing making noise.

I think a replacement bottom plate is still available.


Post# 361203 , Reply# 19   10/20/2016 at 09:01 (2,716 days old) by ronni (USA)        

I have a Genesis LX without the electric port. Can one be added, so I can use an electric hose with a Sidekick?

Post# 361208 , Reply# 20   10/20/2016 at 11:35 (2,716 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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I don't believe that you are able to add a power socket.

Post# 361214 , Reply# 21   10/20/2016 at 13:48 (2,716 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Nice machine...

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It's virtually identical to my Discovery Plus. The "Plus" part of mine is a couple of brackets for onboard tool storage, added before that feature became trendy on uprights. It's kind of unwieldy to use fully kitted out. Taking at least the hose off when in use makes it a whole lot more user friendly. One of the other big changes they made to the Discovery/Epic/Genesis upright along the way was to relocate the power cord to the end of the handle. Mine is at the base of the handle. Right now, that machine is buried at the back of my barn since I've loaded a significant portion of my dad's toy collection in front of it over the past few months. It may be years before I sell off enough of the toys to be able to see the thing again but I still have three 'Lux metal canisters in accessible locations. Also buried back there are my Filter Queen and both shop vacs.

Post# 361240 , Reply# 22   10/20/2016 at 20:08 (2,716 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks myles_v and hunan.

I thought someone said in another thread that the socket could be added, but I couldn't locate it. Maybe it was just a wish.

hunan, I'd like to see photos of the two locations of the port when you can. I've only seen the one at the base. Do you happen to know exactly which label had the first relocated port? That sounds like a better set-up. I'd rather get an older one with that feature rather than a newer one.


Post# 361261 , Reply# 23   10/21/2016 at 09:44 (2,715 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Like I said, the machine is totally buried at the back of my barn right now and I don't foresee having access to it for quite some time. Fortunately, I had posted a thread about that machine when I got it back in March. You'll have to scroll down a bit to see the photos of mine. My Discovery doesn't have an auxiliary power port. As far as I know, none of them did. However, someone else did post pictures in that same thread of the auxiliary power port on a later version of the machine. I've never seen one in the flesh but I have to wonder if it would be terribly difficult to remove that piece from a trashed machine and add it to one like mine. If I ever have the opportunity to try it, I'll certainly post the results here.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO human's LINK


Post# 361279 , Reply# 24   10/21/2016 at 13:25 (2,715 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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Here's the auxiliary port on my Epic 3500 SR. My Aerus Lux Legacy (my profile picture) also has a nearly identical port.
It would be easy to miss if you weren't looking for it.


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Post# 361284 , Reply# 25   10/21/2016 at 14:09 (2,715 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks for the link and pic. I appreciated your pics in the other thread, Edgar, and agree that it's helpful to post such information as a reference--particularly if it's not already on the web. As for the tool set-up and other information on the Model 1572E/Discovery Plus, you may be able to get a copy of the owner's manual by contacting Aerus's corporate office if it isn't on the website.

It seems to me that the electric port was introduced on Electrolux uprights with the Model 1717/Genesis LXe (presuming that the 'e' referenced electric hose & port.

As I thought about adding a pigtail port, I remembered that this occurred on many Model Fs after the power nozzle was introduced in 1959. So, I would think, too, that the same could be done for the uprights.

Myles, is the upright cord on your Epic 3500SR still detachable, or are they now hard-wired? I'm guessing it's the 75h anniversary model, U110P. I like the oyster and fog color combination.



Post# 361291 , Reply# 26   10/21/2016 at 15:51 (2,715 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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The electrical cable comes in through the plastic handle piece and down through the metal handle tube. It connects inside of there.
Earlier models had the cord come straight out of the tip of the plastic handle and they were recalled by Electrolux.


Post# 361455 , Reply# 27   10/25/2016 at 13:42 (2,711 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks, Myles.

Post# 361525 , Reply# 28   10/26/2016 at 19:45 (2,710 days old) by ronni (USA)        

I chatted with an Aerus rep about the difference between the Genesis LX and Genesis LXe. She messaged the engineering department who stated the following:

1) The Discovery series, Regency Series, Special Edition, and Genesis had cords that were detachable from an electrical outlet at the base of their handles (beginning with the Discovery III it was located in the newly-added "bulkhead" (bottom cord wrap). None of these cleaners had an auxiliary outlet, so they were only compatible with straight suction tools.

2) The first Electrolux USA uprights to have the hard-wired power cords were the Genesis LX and Genesis LXe. Initially, the cord was secured at the top of the hand grip; then for performance and safety reasons the handles were recalled and replaced with ones that had cords secured on the back of the hand grip. Except for some of the commercial uprights (including the current model) all Electrolux uprights were styled with the hard wired power cord and auxiliary outlet.

3) In order to assess upright customer desire for a Sidekick accessory, an option was was provided: the Genesis LX (sans the auxiliary outlet) and Genesis LXe (with the auxiliary outlet). The same "bulkhead" was used on both, so they appeared to be the same. The field test showed that customers favored the Sidekick option, so the regular line of household uprights since that time has included the auxiliary port.

4) The rep couldn't remember if a retrofit kit was ever available for cleaners without the auxiliary outlet, but they do not have any in their current stock.


Post# 361531 , Reply# 29   10/26/2016 at 21:01 (2,710 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        
I picked one up today...

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So I got a Prolux Plus from a thrift store close to my apartment building and I was wondering if anybody know more details about these. All I know is the years these were produced and the amp differences.

Post# 361610 , Reply# 30   10/28/2016 at 14:17 (2,708 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Congrats on your Prolux Plus purchase. It was one of Electrolux Corporation's commercial models. The "Plus" meant that the power cord was hard-wired below the hand grip, so there's an auxiliary outlet in which you can plug in a hose cord to run the Sidekick upholstery/stair cleaner. The Prolux series ran from about 1987-1995. Earlier motors were 8.5 amps and later ones were 10 amps; I think they were the same ones used on the household versions.

Electrolux commercial upright description:

1) no headlight
2) 40' - 50' grounded cord with heavy duty insulation
3) reinforced plastic

The looped handle and system performance indicators were introduced on the Model U129A with the Commercial label which succeeded the Prolux series.

You'll find the specs either stamped on the top of the brush roll hood--release the handle to view or on a nameplate decal affixed to the bottom plate.

Post some pics of your cleaner.


Post# 361682 , Reply# 31   10/30/2016 at 01:18 (2,706 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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So here's the Prolux. It was priced down to $7 instead of $13 like the other vacuums I saw at the thrift store because I noticed the brushroll wouldn't turn on. Luckily these came with a thermal reset button so that fixed the problem. The only parts it needs replacing is the bumper and (Correct me if I say it wrong) the bag nozzle because one of the tabs broke off. I'm also thinking about replacing the brushroll and the back wheels as well because they are both really worn out. It's really scratched on the bottom of the nozzle but everywhere else looks fine to me. It will need to get cleaned up really good because I can smell that someone might have either sucked up mud or damp carpets with this. Right now my Diplomat LX is at Great Vacs getting cleaned up and if they do a good job on it, I might send this in to get it cleaned as well. Other than that, I'm really glad that I got this. The specs do look kinda scratched so I can't really get a full detail of this model

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Post# 361692 , Reply# 32   10/30/2016 at 09:10 (2,706 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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Nice machine for a mere $7. You've definitely got some room to fix it up and still be in it for a reasonable amount.

Post# 361703 , Reply# 33   10/30/2016 at 15:55 (2,706 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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Yeah hopefully those parts aren't expensive to replace on this. What's the best bags and both filters to replace on this?

Post# 361706 , Reply# 34   10/30/2016 at 16:54 (2,706 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        

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I just use the generic paper MultiFilter bags in my Discovery Plus. My understanding is they're made by the same company that makes the Electrolux branded bags. I don't know what to tell you about the filters since the Discovery series didn't have them. I think in the consumer line, they initially showed up on the Epic.

Post# 361710 , Reply# 35   10/30/2016 at 17:49 (2,706 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah)        

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I could've sworn that I saw someone using the post filter on his Prolux Plus. I thought it's optional that you could use a filter or not.

Post# 361716 , Reply# 36   10/30/2016 at 20:14 (2,706 days old) by vacuumlad1650 (Wauponsee, IL)        

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You have to order that filter at your local Aerus Electrolux dealer
Andy


Post# 361758 , Reply# 37   10/31/2016 at 23:50 (2,705 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Thanks for the photos. Looks like it's in pretty good shape--especially at such a great sales price.

Since this is a thread for the Genesis series, I am going to start a new vintage thread to continue our discussion.


Post# 362526 , Reply# 38   11/17/2016 at 10:15 (2,688 days old) by ronni (USA)        

I also discovered that the Genesis LX has a 9.5 amp motor, and the Genesis LXe had a 10 amp motor. Is there much of a difference in performance?


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