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Dyson High Prices could leed to demise |
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Post# 270856   3/9/2014 at 13:29 (3,671 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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As I already have two Dyson Vacuum Cleaners, I was sadden to see he has now increased the prices of many towards over £300 and to £400.00 My next Vacuum upright will be a VAX Air Reach or a German Machine, yes they are upgraded but has become far too expensive even with the 5 year warranty. This arrogance could be a long fall from grace, look at Hoover how they ended. Remember his washing machine that died due to unreliability and insane prices
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Post# 270858 , Reply# 1   3/9/2014 at 14:27 (3,671 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)   |   | |
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Taking inflation into account, Dyson prices have either stayed steady and decreased over the years. I went on archive.org and checked out Bed Bath & Beyond's prices for 2006. The TOL model at the time, the DC15, sold for $599, which amounts to $680.66 in 2012 dollars. Today you can buy the new TOL DC65 for $649.99 at the same store. In 2006, you could also buy a basic DC14 for $429, while today a basic DC40 is $399.
Still way too expensive for my tastes, but that is why I buy refurbished. |
Post# 270865 , Reply# 2   3/9/2014 at 15:33 (3,671 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 270877 , Reply# 4   3/9/2014 at 15:59 (3,671 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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Hey I haven't fallen for Dyson Steve! :) |
Post# 270938 , Reply# 7   3/9/2014 at 19:28 (3,671 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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When our old LG Washing Machine was purchased back in 2004 - it was £400, but it wasn't made in China & it is still going strong. How much would £400 be in todays money? |
Post# 270942 , Reply# 9   3/9/2014 at 19:38 (3,671 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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£400 in 2004 is about £520 today. I use the calculator in the link here: CLICK HERE TO GO TO Vintagerepairer's LINK |
Post# 270951 , Reply# 12   3/9/2014 at 19:58 (3,671 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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only be a market for Dysons till the next fashion statement appears when that happens they are dead .In the uk the Dyson vacuum cleaner has become a fashion statement a must have just like the huge tv set giant american fridge it would only take someone to come along with a machine thats more atractive [not necsisarilly better ]and Dyson are fxxd .I can see some of you steadily going purple eyes bulging fact is you know its true
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Post# 270964 , Reply# 16   3/9/2014 at 20:41 (3,671 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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HiLo, Im unsure what you are trying to get at. An LG back in 2004 would have cost at the very least £450 and upwards. I know - we had one.
In todays money I'm not entirely sure how that would be calculated - even as helpful as Benny's inflation calculator is - current LG washers cost the same, so they've only, statistically speaking, fallen down in price by some £50. As for Dyson - I don't dislike Dyson - and the prices of HIS vacuums aren't THAT different from the prices set by Miele, SEBO, Bosch and AEG. The main difference there is that you are paying for better performance quality and quietness, healthier dust capture and better engineered for user friendliness and maybe aside from Numatic and SEBO - Bosch and Miele really know how to squeeze a bit more money out of you "as a bonus." For a start, Bosch dust bags aren't available from every high street franchise, thus pushing the buyer to buy online only plus optional tools are scarce. Miele on the other hand have tons of dust bag availability but at just 4 in a pack with an extensive family of (often not required, but they are there, anyway!) cost optional tools to tart up your vacuum. I may be a happy owner of a Miele S8 Eco model, but I would never feel justified in paying £500 for the S8UniQ with LED lights that offer no real added function that I feel Im missing out on my "ordinary, non tarted up" Miele vacs. At that price I'd like to see the entire body covered in Velvet like Miele have done with their S6 Red Velvet. |
Post# 271012 , Reply# 20   3/10/2014 at 09:57 (3,670 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Hate to burst your bubble but some LG washers and appliances in general are made in China, and it could be TOL models too.
I've just seen JL's website - they have 3 LG ovens listed. Just because they are out of stock doesn't mean they don't make them any more. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK |
Post# 271018 , Reply# 23   3/10/2014 at 10:37 (3,670 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Steve - LG's website in the UK is never accurate. It took them 5 months to display the washing machine I bought from Currys that was an LG model. The site is seldom updated to reflect what third party franchises bring in on their books. I wish you would realise that.
Same with SEBO when you moaned about the Ultra bags - it doesn't happen "overnight" and if you want a particular appliance you still have to shop around - much to the annoyance of high street franchises who assume buyers aren't that keen to use the 'net for price comparisons and different models. If there was any website that springs to mind who seldom update it is HOOVER UK! Took ages to get them to put the ECO-G range on, and even at that there are only 3 models listed - the rest are all at Argos! If there ONE appliance in my lifetime that has always been made in China and has lasted a long time, it is Black and Decker's humble little dust buster. I don't see anyone moaning about them. |
Post# 271034 , Reply# 26   3/10/2014 at 11:44 (3,670 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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You know, it always makes me smile when a few people like yourself come out with the Chinese way of what YOU the westerner feels that Chinese people feel the same about.
Firstly, Chinese people or indeed a lot of Asian countries have a completely different way of life. I'm half Asian myself and my ex partner was Chinese- trust me I know what I am talking about. Their weekly wage, let alone monthly salary is nothing as high as what the minimum rate is in the UK. Monthly salaries on the LOWEST minimum wage is around 1800 yuan, or rather, £177 A MONTH. Can you imagine living on that?? We get double that on Job Seekers alone in the UK. But then you also have to consider that living in China for the most part is FAR CHEAPER than the UK. We pay more for food, and in actual fact a lot more in general. On average you won't find a Chinese teenager filling his gob with junk food, let alone having sweets. They do like their sweets but they'd rather bask on fruit or have something more traditional and cheaper to buy than packaged mass franchise goods like chocolate. The workforce and indeed school children get up at 5am to start the day. They all have their exercise regimes to do before hand. You'd be laughed, if that happened in the UK. The highest Chinese salary is nigh of £45000 which is what PT/Principal teachers get and medical people amongst others in the UK. That's about the only similarity that we share. Even when it comes to manufacturing, China don't count quality as being the highest factor UNLESS the manufacturing facility has merged with a GLOBAL brand, and even at that dependent on what the company produce, NOT what they pay the workers, the product is built up, produced and sold. Traditionally, China as a manufacturing base just copy, imitate and churn out - China have been extremely successful, not helped by the greed of Westerners who since the 1960s have cashed in on the monopoly of production. |
Post# 271035 , Reply# 27   3/10/2014 at 11:50 (3,670 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()   |   | |
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The Washing Machine cost £400, no more no less in 2004. |
Post# 271037 , Reply# 28   3/10/2014 at 11:57 (3,670 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 271057 , Reply# 30   3/10/2014 at 14:15 (3,670 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well I didn't expect you to "out" me here on the forum so publically, Steve.
And, the Chinese don't want "automatic everything" like they did in the States. Chinese people don't drive that many cars with a population forever using bicycles (pretty much what the Dutch had for many years) - the lifestyle is very different - and with the size of the U.S geographically, one could argue that you really need a car to get around. The Chinese don't have a high proportion of smart small appliances in their homes either. India is already producing and from what I can tell, although society there are happy to go premium, they already know that the country will not survive doing what China has done. China has already started to see a shift from a few companies going away from China because it is no longer cheap to produce goods at high prices. Largely though there were pay strikes, not least equal pay for women workers, automation certainly took care of "screw driver" assembly factory floor jobs, don't forget that. It's not all about manual workers. There's more to it. |
Post# 271063 , Reply# 32   3/10/2014 at 14:32 (3,670 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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No worries. I don't intend to be here for the "next couple of decades." lol, though.
I suspect the future home will have porous carpets with a central vent vacuum built into the floor that sucks the dust "from the bottom of the carpet" rather than ruffling the top fibres, or vents large enough to the sides of hard floors where dust can be swept into a central vac system. I think it has been done already - but as usual the prices ain't cheap to have it fitted into your home. |
Post# 271108 , Reply# 33   3/10/2014 at 17:42 (3,670 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )   |   | |
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Well I for one hope that don't go bust, I hope to go on and work in their rdd. |
Post# 271110 , Reply# 34   3/10/2014 at 17:43 (3,670 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )   |   | |
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Sorry, that should have said I hope that Dyson don't go bust. Autocorrect eh |
Post# 271257 , Reply# 40   3/11/2014 at 11:54 (3,669 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Ooh I have that Ewbank |
Post# 271258 , Reply# 41   3/11/2014 at 11:59 (3,669 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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My Gran had an old 60s Ewbank manual sweeper for years - she loved it - needless to say her house was never very clean, as her Hoover 119 hardly ever came out of the cupboard. She'd have loved the Air Ram. |
Post# 271259 , Reply# 42   3/11/2014 at 12:19 (3,669 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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I don't understand Europe's tendency not to use clothes dryers. Mr. Dyson invented his washing machine but no dryer. It's a dryer's lint filter that's always clogging up, restricting airflow, taking longer to dry, and overheating the clothes once the filter is clogged. Sounds like the perfect job for the cyclone. Constant airflow, and great filtration of the lint from the exhaust air.
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Post# 271281 , Reply# 45   3/11/2014 at 14:24 (3,669 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Most of Scotland rains all the time, so an electric tumble dryer is a necessity. We don't have the sunshine for most of the year and even when we do, like we did today, it is close to freezing, which is pointless for drying clothing.
I tried it this morning. Put my clothes at 10am and by 5pm still damp and close to freezing. They're currently now in my electric tumble dryer which will take about 30 mins to get all the clothing dry. Steve - you obviously don't know the Princess or Spinney electric motorised sweepers - they were an 1980s thing seen in catalogues. My gran had two of them and they were like the precursor to the GTECH and pretty good IMHO. She also had a Ewbank. |
Post# 271289 , Reply# 47   3/11/2014 at 14:45 (3,669 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 271291 , Reply# 48   3/11/2014 at 14:51 (3,669 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 271293 , Reply# 50   3/11/2014 at 14:55 (3,669 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Anthony - you cant get away with no filter in a condenser drier, like I have, as it just clogs up the condenser, and stops the drier working properly. |
Post# 271296 , Reply# 51   3/11/2014 at 15:06 (3,669 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 271301 , Reply# 53   3/11/2014 at 15:36 (3,669 days old) by keiththomas (Northumberland, England)   |   | |
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Post# 271302 , Reply# 54   3/11/2014 at 15:36 (3,669 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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We weighed up the pros and cons when we got a gas vented dryer in the 1980s when gas prices were cheap. It was a no brainer not just based on the cost of the dryer and the amount of work it would take to get a hole and vent in the wall. It isn't that expensive to get a vent in a wall, especially if you are in a property for life.
Understandable in a rental if you don't have authority, or even if you do, pointless in a short term tenancy. |