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Post# 269380   2/25/2014 at 15:24 (3,702 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I got the call today that all of us that collect vintage vacuums dream of.

 

A friend also in the vacuum game called me, said he had just been got his hands on 7 vintage Electrolux vacuums. He sent me a pic on whatsapp and we agreed on a price, a fair one at that. I went to fetch them and I am so happy, Its going to be a long weekend ahead restoring them and I may need some help with some parts.

Here they are 

2x 1230's 

1x z 32

3x z 25's 

1x Z 62

 

They need work but I am so very excited to start 


Post# 269383 , Reply# 1   2/25/2014 at 15:30 (3,702 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The z 32 It seems to be in the best condition and the vinyl is not damaged. 


Post# 269388 , Reply# 2   2/25/2014 at 15:35 (3,702 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I'm sure you'll have a ball!!

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ENJOY !! !! !! !!I have no doubt that the "after" shots will be FAB.
Keep us updated.


Post# 269389 , Reply# 3   2/25/2014 at 15:36 (3,702 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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What an amazing find Gareth it will be neat to see them all restored and then in display in your store .
Have fun restoring them ;) if I was there I'd be helping you .

Dan


Post# 269396 , Reply# 4   2/25/2014 at 16:20 (3,702 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Thanks very much  Dan, why not fly out for the weekend lol. Its gonna be a lot of fun. 

 

I am looking very forward to getting them working, Them and the two Columbus's standing behind them.

 

John 

Thank you very much keep watching 


Post# 269397 , Reply# 5   2/25/2014 at 16:25 (3,702 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The Z 32 and the two 1230's  


Post# 269398 , Reply# 6   2/25/2014 at 16:31 (3,702 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The 3 z 25's 

 

One is missing the back cover I hope someone on here has a spare :) 


Post# 269399 , Reply# 7   2/25/2014 at 16:36 (3,702 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The 62 It was bought on the 18/10/ 1959 I know have a few of these models, They are so quiet  


Post# 269400 , Reply# 8   2/25/2014 at 16:42 (3,702 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Congratulations, Gareth! I'm glad the cleaners are in good hands.

* * * * * * *

Does anyone have, or know of, a list of all the Swedish Electrolux cleaners and their years of manufacture? i don't recall ever seeing one--even on Electrolux Group's website.


Post# 269401 , Reply# 9   2/25/2014 at 16:42 (3,702 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The manual 


Post# 269403 , Reply# 10   2/25/2014 at 16:53 (3,702 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Awesome collection Gareth! Looking forward to seeing photos of the machines after you've spiffed them up.
You're also fortunate to have the manual(s) with them.


Post# 269440 , Reply# 11   2/25/2014 at 23:14 (3,702 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Interesting find Gareth. The models 25 and 62 are the only ones I am familiar with and that 62 is not the same as the ones I have seen. The English 62 was a pale greyish green covering with dark green ends and the Australian one was blue with red ends.

You might want to verify the voltage of that machine though. In Canada using the white switch on them signified that it was made for other than the standard voltage (Usually meant it was 32 Volt for the farms). It may mean the same there.

I look forward to seeing the finished products.

Doug


Post# 269448 , Reply# 12   2/26/2014 at 01:05 (3,702 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Hey Doug 

 

Thanks for the info on the 62, I will check it out. 


Post# 269452 , Reply# 13   2/26/2014 at 02:42 (3,702 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
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Gareth,

I am afraid I am going to be a pain but that looks like a 55 rather than a 62 to me, although you have got a 62 manual there. This is mainly due to the crocodile finish and that the hose entry is towards the bottom of the front cover rather than the middle. As Doug rightly says the 62 has a VERY pale green body with dark green (you would almost think they were black) ends. If the rug nozzle in reply 5 belongs to this cleaner then it is a late 55 nozzle rather than 62. And the large Electrolux disc was replaced with a much smaller one under a plastic cover. I would venture to suggest that the original switch went faulty and it was replaced by one for the 65.

I wonder what the origin of the model 1230 was, I have never seen that designation on these style of cleaners.

@Kevin - there was a web site (not Electrolux and as I recall and not in English) a few years ago which detailed a great many of the European Electroluxes, but there was a very wide variety of models sold in different countries, sometimes using the same model designation but with different features (such as in Germany the 55 was sold with paper dust bags, that did not come in in the UK until the 62)
that it is hard to keep track of them all, and then there are the varieties across brand names like Volta which would make tracking them all down a long but interesting project

Al


Post# 269453 , Reply# 14   2/26/2014 at 03:27 (3,702 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        
Great haul!!!

Hello Gareth,

The 'hose coupling to machine suction end' on the 32 is unusual, how does it work, do you have the hose?

I have never seen this model before, I imagine its quite rare; a bit like our UK built Z18?

The 'croc finish covered' cleaner does not appear to have the usual electrolux badging on the side which is typical of the swedish built 55's. Yours looks distinctly 'grey'in colour.

The covering on the swedish 55's did not discolour like the Luton, Bedfordshire made machines, they were also fitted with dust bags that had a type of brushed cotton texture on the inner side of the bag.

Regards, Walter (UK)















Post# 269486 , Reply# 15   2/26/2014 at 11:09 (3,702 days old) by ronni (USA)        

@vacbear58's response - 13 ...


Regarding the "dark green that almost looks black"; I imagine you are speaking of jade (which is a dark green, not a dark blue like many surmise) or perhaps midnight blue.

I offer this information from en.wikipedia.org regarding the color jade: "Jade, also called jade green is a representation of the color of the gemstone called jade, although the stone varies widely in hue. The color name jade green was first used in Spanish in the form piedra de ijada in 1569. The first recorded use of "jade green" as a color name in English was in 1892." (The color chart below is from the same source.)

FYI Electrolux USA used a version of that color--if not identical--on one of the versions of the 1205's endcaps; on the neck, shoe, and roller of the first PN-2; and as the accent color of the Diamond Jubilee/1521, the Diamond Jubilee Floor Beautifier/1522, the CB2000 of that era, and the rug washer of that era (the last to be manufactured).

Since color perspectives are somewhat subjective, I merely offer my observations; not unmitigated facts. I just thought I'd make a possible connection. Anyway, it is evident that the Electrolux USA folks named their color jade, because they felt it was a shade of green.

I will say, I didn't realize that back in the day there were more than Swedish, American, and Canadian manufacturing plants; albeit I knew there were other markets. The accent color differences of machines manufactured at the plant in Sweden from those in the plant in Australia (and likely others) are interesting. Perhaps they were to distinguish one country's machines from the others?


Post# 269493 , Reply# 16   2/26/2014 at 11:41 (3,702 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Vac bear, You are totally right, I didnt even bother to check it out, I have 3 of them, it is a z 55. he manual came attached to it and In all the excitement I just took it as a newer model. 


Post# 269706 , Reply# 17   2/28/2014 at 14:13 (3,699 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I got another two machines from the same friend, he didn't even charge me for them.

 

First up another z 55  


Post# 269710 , Reply# 18   2/28/2014 at 14:19 (3,699 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Then this Za 30 with a host of attachments 

I like the color of it to and it runs well bud needs some TLC 


Post# 269711 , Reply# 19   2/28/2014 at 14:22 (3,699 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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A Rather cool little dusting brush 


Post# 269713 , Reply# 20   2/28/2014 at 14:26 (3,699 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Another view 


Post# 269715 , Reply# 21   2/28/2014 at 14:38 (3,699 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Very Nice

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I love the Z30 I remember my Miele dealer told me Miele invented that brush and no one else had it . I see now he lied ...

Dan


Post# 269724 , Reply# 22   2/28/2014 at 15:59 (3,699 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

@ #20

Are you sure those are Electrolux attachments and not Miele? I don't see any identification on them.


Post# 269746 , Reply# 23   2/28/2014 at 18:13 (3,699 days old) by vaclover (Freestate, Virginia, South Africa)        
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Gareth this is THE most beutifull elctroluxes!!!I never even thought in my wildest dreams that we have such old vacuums in South Africa!you are for sure a very lucky guy!first the constellation, the kirby and now the electroluxes!you've got one amazing collection!
Ruan


Post# 269761 , Reply# 24   2/28/2014 at 19:49 (3,699 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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@ Kevin - yes that is Electrolux. It was called a library brush. Electrolux had them on all their delux machines from the mid 20's up till the 2nd world war. Vactric also used them on their machines as well.

Post# 269776 , Reply# 25   2/28/2014 at 23:59 (3,699 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks, Doug (#24). In your opinion, was the attachment more effective than a round dusting brush? I have used the latter to clean books before which worked just fine. I'm guessing that not enough persons saw the value in the library brush which led to its discontinuation.

If you have a Model XXX version (or pic of one) please post it. I don't recall ever seeing one till reading this thread.

Anyway, were the European/Australian/South American attachments stamped with a logo or wordmark? I was wondering if they would have used the same circle with 3 lines as America and Canada did in that era?


Post# 269818 , Reply# 26   3/1/2014 at 09:33 (3,699 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
library brush

This would allow dusting books while still on the shelf.A great idea that should be at least optional on the better vacs today.

Post# 269825 , Reply# 27   3/1/2014 at 10:04 (3,699 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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I have both the Swedish version of the model 30 and the Canadian version in my collection. That was the point at which they changed to the rubber crevice tool in Sweden and the fiber one in Canada (The early version I have still has the metal crevice tool) Later English machines also had a different version of a library brush made for the plastic crevice tools.

Swedish Model 30 (Crevice tool missing, replacement hose)


Post# 269827 , Reply# 28   3/1/2014 at 10:05 (3,699 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Canadian Model 30

Post# 269828 , Reply# 29   3/1/2014 at 10:07 (3,699 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Incidentally, if memory serves, the model 25 was the last one to have the metal crevice tool with the book brush.

The later version of the book brush is shown in this picture of the model 330 parts


Post# 269830 , Reply# 30   3/1/2014 at 10:45 (3,699 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks for the info., Jimmy (#26) and Doug (#s 27-29).

I don't doubt that the shape of a library brush would be more conducive to dusting books on shelves, but I personally didn't have an issue with using the regular dusting brush when doing so. I don't quite understand the usefulness of the library brush in #29. It resembles a scrubbing brush. I also forgot to inquire about the wand for the library brush (#19). Did all versions of the attachment require the flat wand?

As for the crevice tools--I am taking for granted that the American ones were originally metal. About when did that change to fiber? Was the one for the aqua Model G the only one that was plastic (thinking that the ones since then are some type of vinyl)?

Nice pics, Doug. It seems that the European, Australian, South American, and Canadian models resembled each other more than the American ones.

Regarding the pic in #27, for which attachment was the elbow? Was that unique to Swedish machines, or did other countries/continents have it?

Still wondering how/if the European, Australian, and South American tools were branded.


Post# 269838 , Reply# 31   3/1/2014 at 11:40 (3,699 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Kevin:

Electrolux in the US began designing their own machines in the late 30's when the model XXX came out where as the Canadian model 30 was a modification of the Swedish design. Canada didn't start designing their own unique style of machines till the late 50's when the 80 series came out.

Both library brushes connected to the ends of the crevice tools - the first on the metal ones and the second on the plastic ones.

I have never seen any European Electrolux parts with a name or logo on them.

If I remember correctly the US changed to fibre crevice tools with the model XXX, then to plastic with the model AF, and then to the present style with the tan model G

The elbow was featured with all the models up till the late 50s in Sweden and England (not sure about other countries). In Canada it was available as an option. It was used with the dusting brush to allow you to clean overhead for thing like plate rails or the tops of furniture (works well for fan blades too)

If you want to see more of the models and what was with them take a look at my web page. smithcollection.altervista.org/in...

Doug



Post# 269841 , Reply# 32   3/1/2014 at 12:13 (3,699 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Hey Doug--

I can always count on you for good information. Thanks much. Also, thanks for the link to your webpage. I'm going to go there now. In part, I am going to see if you have a list of European models like you have for the Canadian ones. If you don't have it there, please post it here for reference if you do have it at your disposal.

I would also like to know where the other Electrolux manufacturing plants were back in the day--besides Sweden and England. I will take for granted that Australia had its own. Were those cleaners all pretty much identical except for colors, or were there different styles in different countries? It boggles my mind to think of Electrolux having a worldwide presence (I used to just think it was mainly in Sweden, Canada, and America).

I did forget to inquire what the significance of the 'Z' was in the European and Canadian model designations, and what the later 'AP' of Canadian model designations meant.


Post# 269850 , Reply# 33   3/1/2014 at 13:06 (3,699 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Kevin - just getting an email together for you. Send it shortly

Doug


Post# 269855 , Reply# 34   3/1/2014 at 14:55 (3,698 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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We Had an Electrolux Manufacturing plant in Paardenisland Cape Town, They even developed some unique to South Africa Models, Unfortunately it closed down in the early 2000's 


Post# 269897 , Reply# 35   3/1/2014 at 20:59 (3,698 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks for the information, Gareth (#34). Maybe you and some others in South Africa could assemble the product history information for your country for the rest of us. That would be interesting. Too bad your Electrolux plant closed. I'm guessing there is currently a Lux plant (Switzerland) on your continent somewhere?

Post# 270094 , Reply# 36   3/3/2014 at 14:07 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Can some one help me date these machines please, I am not to clued up on production dates of early Electrolux models 


Post# 270100 , Reply# 37   3/3/2014 at 14:30 (3,696 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Gareth:

I only have the dates for the English versions but they would be pretty close for these ones.

The model 25 was made from 1935 to 1945, the model 30 was made from 1945 to 1948 and the model 55 was made from 1949 to 1955.

The 1230 and the 32 aren't ones I have run across before.

Doug


Post# 270102 , Reply# 38   3/3/2014 at 14:45 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Thanks Doug 

 

I have a Electrolux 1129 made in 1927, I am interested in knowing if the 25 came after that model or if the 1230's and 32 virtually the same machine but with slight trim differences ) came first.

 

Looking at the styling I would say the 1230's and 32 came before the 25, as they have Metal rears compared to the 25's Bakelite rears 


Post# 270109 , Reply# 39   3/3/2014 at 16:23 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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View from the rear of the two 


Post# 270110 , Reply# 40   3/3/2014 at 16:26 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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So Here they are individually

 

The Z 32  


Post# 270111 , Reply# 41   3/3/2014 at 16:31 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The motor 

Wow imagine today you could just unclip a cover and get to a motors inner workings on a modern vacuum, The lawsuits would be incredible 


Post# 270112 , Reply# 42   3/3/2014 at 16:35 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Badge 


Post# 270113 , Reply# 43   3/3/2014 at 16:37 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Rating plate 


Post# 270114 , Reply# 44   3/3/2014 at 16:40 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The z 32 on the left and the 1230 on the right 


Post# 270115 , Reply# 45   3/3/2014 at 16:43 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The 1230 


Post# 270116 , Reply# 46   3/3/2014 at 16:44 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The badge 


Post# 270117 , Reply# 47   3/3/2014 at 16:45 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The rating plate 


Post# 270118 , Reply# 48   3/3/2014 at 16:48 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Another 1230 

 


Post# 270119 , Reply# 49   3/3/2014 at 16:49 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The badge 


Post# 270120 , Reply# 50   3/3/2014 at 16:51 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Rating plate 


Post# 270121 , Reply# 51   3/3/2014 at 16:54 (3,696 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The Z32 left and 1320 right 


Post# 270137 , Reply# 52   3/3/2014 at 19:39 (3,696 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Gareth

This would be my take on it. Both the 1230 and the 32 appear to be versions of the model XII. The 1230 is made in England so I would suspect the designation just means it was a model 12 made for an foreign market. The 32 was made in the USA but is not a model that was sold there so it, again was a special version for export. The hose connection (non threaded) on the 32 is for the US style hose and was only used on the last of the machines they made so I would put its date at being late 1930's. (Incidentally they wouldn't have come with connectors on both ends of the machine. The bakalite connector unscrews and was made to be threaded into either end as necessary)
Doug


Post# 270157 , Reply# 53   3/3/2014 at 22:14 (3,696 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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I'm thinking that the model 1230 should have the same parts as the model XII from England (pic from web)


Post# 270158 , Reply# 54   3/3/2014 at 22:15 (3,696 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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And the model 32 should have the same parts as this US model XII from my collection.



Post# 270238 , Reply# 55   3/4/2014 at 14:28 (3,695 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I am trying to find out exactly when they started manufacturing Electrolux's in SA, and if any of these were made In SA models.

 

 


Post# 270244 , Reply# 56   3/4/2014 at 15:05 (3,695 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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If you look on the top plate of each of them it says where they were manufactured


Post# 271270 , Reply# 57   3/11/2014 at 13:39 (3,689 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Another arrival, a Volta, Missing its handle, still runs sweet. Made in the UK. First one I have ever seen  


Post# 271271 , Reply# 58   3/11/2014 at 13:42 (3,689 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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3 Lug hose fitting.


Post# 271272 , Reply# 59   3/11/2014 at 13:45 (3,689 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Rating plate 


Post# 271274 , Reply# 60   3/11/2014 at 13:54 (3,689 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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First 1320 All buffed up, Just need to sort out the sleighs  


Post# 271290 , Reply# 61   3/11/2014 at 14:45 (3,688 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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beautiful Gareth you should be proud .

Dan


Post# 271317 , Reply# 62   3/11/2014 at 16:51 (3,688 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Thank you Dan, I am truly happy with the Out come, I am currently busy with the z32 USA made machine. Som eof the machines vynal is really badly damaged and I am batteling to find some that is thin enough like the type on the machine.

The look on the shop assistance faces when I say its for a vacuum cleaner is priceless, although that all changed this week, after the National Geo graphic episode a National magazine did a two page article on my collection so now i walk in to a shop and that say, "NO Way dude your that dude from with the Hoovers, Cool man" I dont know about been called Dude by some one only a 6 or so  years older than my eldest son


Post# 271320 , Reply# 63   3/11/2014 at 16:56 (3,688 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Volta

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Gareth

The Volta is similar to the Electrolux 64, whats the model number please?

Al


Post# 271321 , Reply# 64   3/11/2014 at 17:00 (3,688 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Nice Job!! The 1230 looks great.

The Volta I may be able to shed a bit of light on. According to the sheet below Electrolux England made the Challenge model U137 in 1965. It appears to be the same body design and the colours were Light grey with maroon ends same as this Volta. I would imagine they were made at about the same time. The Challenge for the domestic market and the Volta for Export.



Post# 271678 , Reply# 65   3/13/2014 at 14:20 (3,687 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Hey Doug 

 

Thank you for that chart. It does seem to resemble the 64


Post# 273165 , Reply# 66   3/23/2014 at 17:34 (3,676 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I never dreamed in all my life I would have so many Vintage Electrolux's to restore, Lots of work ahead 



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