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Post# 268894   2/21/2014 at 22:05 (1,634 days old) by kevin ()        

Hello,

There is currently a gold B-10 buffer/shampooer listed on Ebay. That got me to thinking about the year it was manufactured, but the Aerus product history is very general--lumping them together in time periods without color or internal changes. Is it true that Canada did not have its own buffer/shampooers until 1977? Does anyone have a timeline for the Electrolux Canada buffer/shampooers?

FYI ... Here are the groupings of models on the Aerus product history chart:

1977-1984: B-20, B-21, B-22, B-22J, B-28, B-50

1984-1992: 2101

1991-2008: Epic & Floor Pro (light sand gray, gray, oyster, blue)

2009-pres: Floor Pro (white)


What about the Swedish buffer/shampooers? I think the B-6 and earlier models were manufactured in Sweden and sold there and in the U. S. and Canada. Is that right?






Post# 268895 , Reply# 1   2/21/2014 at 22:05 (1,634 days old) by kevin ()        

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Post# 268896 , Reply# 2   2/21/2014 at 22:06 (1,634 days old) by kevin ()        

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Post# 268897 , Reply# 3   2/21/2014 at 22:07 (1,634 days old) by kevin ()        

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Post# 268900 , Reply# 4   2/21/2014 at 22:38 (1,634 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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As usual Aerus is all wet. They have no clue what the Canadian Electrolux history is. Canada manufactured polishers then shampooers from about 1950 on. The first one was the BA5.

1950-1953 - BA5
1953-1957 - BX5
1957-1966? - BX10 shampooer
1966?-1968 - B20
1968-1973 - B21
1973-1976 - B22
1976-1978 - B23
1978-1982 - B28
1982-1985 - B50
1985-1987 - 2101 (Jadestone)
1987-1989 - 2101 (Taupe) and Special Edition 2101 (wine)

past this all the machines were made in the US


Post# 268902 , Reply# 5   2/21/2014 at 22:56 (1,634 days old) by kevin ()        

Guess I jumped the gun without first checking Vacuumland's archives. Here is a link that mentions the first Canadian buffer, Model BA5 made its debut around 1950. For the record, it is thread # 3936 from June and July 2008:

www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...


And while we're talking Electrolux Canada Limited history here's another link to thread # 15223 (December 2011) with a list of vacuum cleaners:

www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...


Post# 268905 , Reply# 6   2/21/2014 at 23:00 (1,634 days old) by kevin ()        

Douglas, I posted #5 before I read your reply (#4). Thanks for filling in the missing data. Somehow 1977 seemed pretty late in the game for Electrolux Canada Limited to manufacture its own buffer/shampooers!

Thanks much.

BTW, is there a Canadian vacuum museum, or does the Vacuum Museum in MO include the Canadian models?


Post# 268906 , Reply# 7   2/21/2014 at 23:02 (1,634 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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LOL my list on the first thread and the second is my thread


Post# 268912 , Reply# 8   2/22/2014 at 00:30 (1,634 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Kevin it's OK... It's very difficult for even Lux fanatics to keep track of the many versions and models. Electrolux was one of the worst offenders at making small minute changes in the machines that most Joe Q. Public wouldn't notice. There are a myriad of different parts they stuck on the same models...

It's not that Aerus has no clue, they just don't have to care... Electrolux Canada was a mere subsidiary of the U.S. company. While they had some SMALL differences, they were not major enough to warrant a comprehensive historical review. Collector2 has taken it upon himself to "teach" U.S. all the details of Canada's Lux subsidiary. Canadians, like the British, can sometimes have a pretty big chip on their shoulder about their much more powerful big sister to the south... They sometimes seem downright bitter that the U.S. grew so much bigger and more powerful. They are sometimes like a smaller child jumping up and down shouting "look at me!" LOL


Post# 268935 , Reply# 9   2/22/2014 at 09:58 (1,634 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Canadian Electrolux

Canada had great vacs and the shampooer looked wonderful but when brought to US in 80s it had problems with tank fit & trigger,cordwinder contacts,plastic gears,etc and did not last long here.I have hoped and wondered if the older Can.version worked better than the US experience.
As above Doug is the expert on Canadian vacs (and much more).


Post# 269067 , Reply# 10   2/23/2014 at 07:20 (1,633 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Actually you are wrong Christopher.

Electrolux Canada was never a subsidiary of Electrolux US. While they were owned by the same parent company they were both operated as totally separate entities. Some developments were shared between the companies just as they both used developments by Electrolux Sweden but they both had very individual identities.

This ended in the late 1980's when a forced buy out of the companies ended up with them near bankruptcy and all of the Canadian manufacturing facilities were closed "to take advantage of the free trade agreement". This ended up only compounding the problem as the US design machines didn't sell well in Canada and sales dropped drastically. It ended up with the US design being dropped in favor of the previous Canadian design.



Post# 269099 , Reply# 11   2/23/2014 at 13:31 (1,633 days old) by kevin ()        

Thank you for your replies, Christopher (#8), Jimmy (#9), and Douglas (#10).

Christopher, I appreciate your acknowledgement of the challenge of keeping all the Electrolux information straight. This forum is a great place to piece together the information. Hopefully, little by little, the information on all cleaners will be complete ... or as complete as can be expected. Regarding Electrolux Canada Limited I have a growing appreciation for it, because it completes the Electrolux story. Without it, we would miss out on lots of great designs, colors, and attachments of machines. I also wish there were more information on the Swedish machines for the same reason.

Jimmy, I'm sure our Canadian friends appreciate your compliment about their branch's great quality of machines. Along with you, I would suspect that the versions brought to the USA had different internal parts of lesser quality.

Douglas, Thank you for the information on the demise of Electrolux Canada Limited. I wonder how Aerus LLC, Canada is doing. Are its machines the same as those in the USA, or have they made some changes to better suit Canadians' tastes? As for the term 'subsidiary' (which I, like Christopher, thought Electrolux Corporation USA and Electrolux Canada Limited were to the Swedish company), also known as a daughter company or sister company, is one in which a parent company owns all or more than half its stock. According to Electrolux Group's history timeline Electrolux Corporation USA was a minority interest of 39%.
I did not find any information on the Group's website regarding Electrolux Canada Limited.


Post# 269129 , Reply# 12   2/23/2014 at 19:36 (1,633 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

One often forgets the rules of International Anti-Americanism... Others are allowed to make thinly veiled insults against Americans and the U.S. but when Americans get their rug up they become "arrogant" or "rude" or whatever. Others are allowed to toot their own horns but Americans who do so are again unworthy. Others are always superior to Americans and the U.S.A. in every way and the U.S. is always inferior but when we again protest we are again the big "meanies." Yesterday a restaurant in Canada celebrated the U.S. hockey team's crying by serving "American Tears Soup." Mean-spirited and highly unsportsmanlike but it's OK to do it with Americans... We're the ONLY people on earth who are BOTH arrogant AND dumb! LOL LOL

It is what it is...


Post# 269170 , Reply# 13   2/24/2014 at 09:03 (1,632 days old) by HooverCelebrity ()        
Electromatik:

It's very difficult for even Lux fanatics to keep track of the many versions and models. Electrolux was one of the worst offenders at making small minute changes in the machines that most Joe Q. Public wouldn't notice. There are a myriad of different parts they stuck on the same models...

 

Well, this could be said for EVERY brand of vacuum cleaner -- Hoover was guilty of small running changes.  Eureka did it, I'm sure.  Kirby did and still does it.. so what's your point?  That's part of the fun of collecting, noticing and documenting these changes. 

 

I fail to see how your slam against Canadians (and British) helps support anything in this thread.  Doug has been a member of VacuumLand since 2007, and always contributes greatly to this website.  I also fail to see where and how he or anyone else made a thinly veiled insult against Americans or the US.  I appreciate the time that Doug has taken to educate members of this forum about all of the small nuances between US and Canadian machines.  He has an amazing collection which he has more than comprehensively documented over his 6+ years of posting. 


Post# 269303 , Reply# 14   2/24/2014 at 21:41 (1,631 days old) by Gus (Uruguay, South Am.)        

Fred, you are clear minded, INDEED.Gus

Post# 272140 , Reply# 15   3/16/2014 at 15:29 (1,612 days old) by kevin ()        

Current eBay listing of a B-50 polisher/scrubber (in what appears to be gray and white colors) ff.:

#1


Post# 272141 , Reply# 16   3/16/2014 at 15:30 (1,612 days old) by kevin ()        

#2:

Post# 272142 , Reply# 17   3/16/2014 at 15:31 (1,612 days old) by kevin ()        

#3:

Post# 272195 , Reply# 18   3/16/2014 at 23:06 (1,611 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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That's a B21 (1968-73) Its actually a two tone green (Lime and Dark Green)

Post# 273897 , Reply# 19   3/28/2014 at 20:13 (1,600 days old) by kevin ()        

Appears to be the mauve 2101. Doug, I appreciate your corrections!

Post# 273898 , Reply# 20   3/28/2014 at 20:13 (1,600 days old) by kevin ()        

Hood of mauve Model 2101:

Post# 275163 , Reply# 21   4/7/2014 at 19:58 (1,590 days old) by kevin ()        

Model B-22 (Ecru):

Post# 275165 , Reply# 22   4/7/2014 at 19:59 (1,590 days old) by kevin ()        

B-22 Brushes and Pads:

Post# 275166 , Reply# 23   4/7/2014 at 20:00 (1,590 days old) by kevin ()        

B-22 Nap Lifters:

Post# 275167 , Reply# 24   4/7/2014 at 20:01 (1,590 days old) by kevin ()        

B-22S Shampoo:

Post# 275168 , Reply# 25   4/7/2014 at 20:02 (1,590 days old) by kevin ()        

B-22 Manual Cover:

Post# 278105 , Reply# 26   4/24/2014 at 18:33 (1,573 days old) by kevin ()        

Widetrack/2100 (close-up of hood):

This 2100's information states that it was manufactured in the USA. I wonder if the 2100s were sold concurrently with the USA's Floor Beautifier and Floor Pro models, or if they were mainly sold in Canada?


Post# 278106 , Reply# 27   4/24/2014 at 18:34 (1,573 days old) by kevin ()        

2100/Widetrack (full body and nap lifters):

Post# 278107 , Reply# 28   4/24/2014 at 18:35 (1,573 days old) by kevin ()        

2100/Widetrack (rear view):

Post# 278109 , Reply# 29   4/24/2014 at 18:37 (1,573 days old) by kevin ()        

2100/Widetrack (base showing manufacturer's information):

Post# 278110 , Reply# 30   4/24/2014 at 18:41 (1,573 days old) by kevin ()        

Oops--I goofed on the Widetrack's model #. It should be 2101.

Post# 294606 , Reply# 31   8/20/2014 at 17:54 (1,455 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Photo #1 - Cranberry (Wine) Model B20 from the late '60s:

Post# 294607 , Reply# 32   8/20/2014 at 17:56 (1,455 days old) by ronni (USA)        

Photo #2 - Cranberry (Wine) Model B20 from the late '60s:

Post# 307539 , Reply# 33   11/29/2014 at 02:53 (1,354 days old) by lainey ()        
B22 question(s)

just picked up a B22, seems to be in working order. However, I'm a bit unfamiliar with these cleaners, and I'm looking for a bit of guidance.

It came with a set of brushes, and two sets of nap lifters. The brushes say 'polish' on the reverse - am I correct in assuming these are for hard flooring?
secondly, none of the lifters/brushes actually clip into the unit. after perusing the internet, I'm guessing I'm missing clips?

I found the photo above showing the B22 brushes, and I've highlighted the brushes I DO have, and the clips I'm guessing I need?
I'd really like to use this to shampoo carpet - I need different brushes from what I've got?? Are the B22 brushes interchangeable with brushes from other models?

of course, it didn't come with a manual, and I can't seem to find one.
**sigh**
if someone could kindly point me in the right direction...

Gratefully,
Lainey


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Post# 307756 , Reply# 34   12/1/2014 at 19:04 (1,352 days old) by Ronni (USA)        

Lainey,

Perhaps the most knowledgable Vacuumlander on Electrolux Canada's "Floor and Rug Conditioner"s (as they were identified in the '60s and '70s) is Collector2 (Doug Smith)--see reply #4 above. Click on "Collector2" to get his email.

I hope you're successful in your quest.


Post# 307774 , Reply# 35   12/1/2014 at 21:25 (1,351 days old) by lainey ()        
thanks

Thanks Ronni. I give that a try.

Lainey


Post# 307778 , Reply# 36   12/1/2014 at 21:55 (1,351 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey

Just found this thread. If the brushes aren't staying on the machine chances are the rubber washers on the bottom of the gears on the machine are worn out. That was quite common on those. You have to change the gears to fix that though.


Post# 307779 , Reply# 37   12/1/2014 at 21:57 (1,351 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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The clips in the picture are for holding the green scrub pads or lambs wool buffing pads onto the brushes.

Post# 307785 , Reply# 38   12/1/2014 at 22:59 (1,351 days old) by Ronni (USA)        

You're welcome, Lainey.

In the event that you and Doug are unable to connect right away, here is some general information:


The stiffer-bristled brushes are for floors and the softer-bristled ones are for rugs and carpets. The U. S. A.'s floor brushes are tan, and the rug/carpet brushes are black; so this may correspond to the lighter- and darker-colored ones in your photo.

You will also need a dry-foam detergent--not an extraction detergent. The dilution ratio is typically 8:1 (water to shampoo), but check the label.


Here are the steps I have used my Model B-8 (vintage U. S. A. Carpet/Floor Beautifier):

1. Vacuum center and edges thoroughly.

2. Test an inconspicuous area to check colorfastness of carpet or rug. (Use a white rag to manually apply undiluted shampoo in a circular motion). If color appears on the rag try a different brand of dry-foam and check it (compare ingredients before purchasing).

3. Treat any spots or stains with undiluted shampoo and a rag using a circular motion. For stubborn stains repeat or try a carpet stain remover.

4. Use your B-22 to work the shampoo into a foam (do a small section such as 4 feet by 4 feet). Be careful not to over-saturate the carpet which will slow drying time and may cause mold to develop or a glued bond to weaken. If you need to stop for some reason, set your B-22 in its storage tray.

5. Go over the entire carpet using the nap-lifters to facilitate shorter drying time (some individuals also like to lift the nap prior to shampooing).

6. Allow carpet to dry completely then vacuum thoroughly once again. Good air circulation can be aided with a fan and/or open windows (if weather is conducive).

7. Rinse brushes and nap-lifters in warm water--or a mild solution such as dish water if extra dirty. Set bristles up to dry and store carefully to keep bristles from becoming malformed.

8. A service tech recommended to me not to store any unused solution in the solution tank which would eventually erode the rubber seal. Instead, store it in a clean empty bottle such as a pop bottle. Rinse out the solution tank and tube.

9. Wipe down the B-22 with a cloth moistened in plain water or a mild detergent solution (top to bottom) prior to storing. Wipe down the cord as needed--occasional sprinkling of talcum powder if it has a cord winder also helps it function properly.


The dry-foam method is effective for regular light maintenance. Carpets and rugs that have been neglected or have had a lot of spills and/or footwear traffic (versus bare or stocking feet) will benefit from an extraction method. For smaller rugs or carpets you may want to purchase a Electrolux turbo rug washer on eBay. It attaches to a tank vacuum cleaner's suction hose and is used in the same way as the triple-brush machine.


Aerus LLC (formerly Electrolux Corporation and Electrolux Canada Limited) may be able to send you an electronic copy of a B-22 manual if it has one on file. As you can see from the photos and information from previous replies on this thread the B-22s are quite similar to other models from the B-20s to the 2101 and 2101As, so one of those manuals would also be beneficial to you. You can contact them at customerservice@aerusonline.com or 1-800-243-9078.



Post# 307807 , Reply# 39   12/2/2014 at 14:42 (1,351 days old) by Ronni (USA)        

I was just noticing that no one has mentioned the elusive Model B-22J (see initial post of this thread). What's up with that?

Also, re: reply #26 was 'Widetrack' a rebrand, or did it have a special design?


Post# 382650 , Reply# 40   12/14/2017 at 23:28 (242 days old) by Paul (MN)        

Doug (or anyone in the know), there's a rug & shampoo kit for a BX10 currently listed on eBay. Is that compatible with a 20-series or 2101?

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Post# 395318 , Reply# 41   7/20/2018 at 02:10 by Paul (MN)        
My BA-5

I recently purchased a Model BA-5 "Triple-Action Floor Polisher" at a ReStore. The serial number's first digit is a '6', so I think that means it was made in 1946. Unfortunately it lacks a bumper, and the the Electrolux logo with the Lux rays is badly scratched. Amazingly, though, it still has its original cracked black cord with burgundy plugs. It's hard to tell if the brushes are originals. The holders seem to be black bakelite with metal fasteners that secure them to the base.

Another interesting feature is that the handle bears an old-fashioned-looking sticker that states: "Lot No. 168087 ... 379 Piece No. ... United Van Lines". United Van Lines is a moving and relocation company that originated in 1928 as Return Loads Service, Inc. and was reincorporated in 1933 under the new name. So the sticker may indicate that Electrolux Canada Ltd. supplied polishers to U.S. consumers at one point which were transported by UVL.

The ratings on the nameplate are: 105-115 volts and 2.6 amps.

Here are some photos of the BA-5:



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Post# 395329 , Reply# 42   7/20/2018 at 09:48 by luxkid1980 (Richmond, Virginia)        

I wish I had more carpet to buy this. I haven't seen too many B-8 models that are new old stock. I believe my grandmother had this model in Blue years ago. Do these perform as well as the newer Aerus models?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Electrolux-...


Post# 395585 , Reply# 43   7/26/2018 at 00:02 by Paul (MN)        

Sorry for the delay in responding ...

I like the B-8 for nostalgic reasons, but I prefer the newer style, like the Model S105A to which you linked, because of these features:

1) plastic dispense trigger (versus the pull string on the B-8)
2) more durable shampoo dispenser that stands better than the B-8's when filling
3) it's heavier than the B-8 due to the cord winder, so it grips the carpet better; the caveat being that it can be hard on the back if doing a lot of shampooing at one time
4) the sudser shield's fastener is more durable than B-8's
5) nap lifters (not meant to be used with the B-8 according to Electrolux Corp. literature—even though they kind of fit—due to eventual motor and spindle damage; a good number of Aerus rep's don't know this, or they just want to make a fast buck by selling more nap lifters)
6) automatic cord winder
7) optional drip tray clips allow easy, drip-free carrying (albeit they may fit onto the B-8's drip tray, too)
8) the shampoo tube does not need to be removed with the shampoo dispenser when emptying or refilling






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