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Post# 268546   2/19/2014 at 16:40 (3,715 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

After reading a few threads on here and general googling, I am rather confused.
Our DC01 has fins on the lower cyclone, yet there are so many without them. A few on Google also show the cyclone with fins,(think DC04).
Im just wondering why some have it and some don't, I don't think it's a replacement, that seems logical, could it be a later addition?

What do the fins achieve anyway, what's their purpose?


Post# 268550 , Reply# 1   2/19/2014 at 16:47 (3,715 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Fins

These were added in the very, very late production run of the DC01, I think around the time the DC04 went on sale. Even older cleaners which were sent back to Dyson for repairs under warranty were known to be sent back to the customer with a new inner section with fins.

I could be wrong, but I thought the fins helped to keep large solid debris in place and not go rattling around the cyclone tank.


Post# 268551 , Reply# 2   2/19/2014 at 16:47 (3,715 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

The fins are designed to trap bigger bits of dirt I think - however that really annoys me as I prefer the DC01 lower cyclone which lets big bits of dust spin around.

The Lower Cyclone with fins was introduced on the DC04. The DC01, DC02 & DC03 had the Cyclone without fins.


Post# 268552 , Reply# 3   2/19/2014 at 16:51 (3,715 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)        

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The earlier DC01s ( the ones with the fixed soleplates) and the earlier DC01s (with the pivoting soleplate) didn't have fins in the bin on the lower outer cyclone well the 2 version I had didn't nor did my DC01 absolute come to think of it.

The purpose of the fins is to capture the large debris in the outer cyclone to improve collection and efficiency too I believe. Even Dyson's today have them but not as prominent as they use to be mainly as the bin capacity has reduced over time.


Post# 268557 , Reply# 4   2/19/2014 at 16:57 (3,715 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

As I said already, the fins were added to the very last DC01 cleaners and also Dyson upgraded the cleaners which were sent back to them for repair. I am fairly sure this inner fixture we are talking about is the same size for the DC04 and of course it would have made much more sense to produce just the one part with fins to reduce costs. But the addition of the fins must have been significant if Dyson deemed it necessary to change the part on the cleaners which were sent in for repair.

Remember that production of the yellow & grey DC01 standard model continued well into the year 2000, some 18 months or more after the DC04 range was unveiled.


Post# 268573 , Reply# 5   2/19/2014 at 18:46 (3,715 days old) by baglessball ()        
I think....

I read somewhere that the fins were added to force the dust to settle. This stops as much going through the shroud, which in turn means less dust for the inner cyclone to have to separate, which I imagine leads to less dust on the filter.

I think.

I'm sure the fin bin inserts were added to the DC01's when the DC04 was launched too. They are the same part. I think as the fins were added, so was a more secure inner bin seal, which had DO NOT REMOVE stamped onto it.

:)


Post# 268574 , Reply# 6   2/19/2014 at 18:47 (3,715 days old) by baglessball ()        

Oh!

And the DC02 does have them, but they are smaller, and built in to the clear bin rather than the insert.


Post# 268626 , Reply# 7   2/20/2014 at 03:11 (3,715 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

Yep, The DC05 has them in the bin and on the intert.
It's ironic as to why all Dysons have them apart from the DC03 :/
I found the DC07 fins did let the dust spin around for a while till you get a large fluff/dust ball.
Same thing with the DC01 and 04
The DC41 has 2 on the cyclone and if #I remember correctly a few on the flap


Post# 268632 , Reply# 8   2/20/2014 at 05:09 (3,715 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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DC18 has fins sticking up from the flap at the bottom, DC38 doesn't have any but its so small the dirt hardly spins round anyway.

Post# 268633 , Reply# 9   2/20/2014 at 05:46 (3,715 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Yes, the fins where added when the dc04 came out, improving cyclone efficiency. It is only my dc01 abs+ that has fins on it as it has been serviced after 1999- infact after about 2002- as when it was serviced it had a square plug fitted rather than a circular one, along with a yellow bumper rather than a purple one and a set of yellow wheel covers rather than purple ones
I am currently trying to replace all the parts with the original ones, I have replaced the bumper, and the cord- however the cord is not purple but it still has the circular plug so I put that one on there!


Post# 268635 , Reply# 10   2/20/2014 at 06:02 (3,715 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

This is James

Post# 268637 , Reply# 11   2/20/2014 at 06:05 (3,715 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

Such good condition for the age. All original tools and labels. Few scuffs here and there, but nothing major, suction is as strong as new

Post# 268638 , Reply# 12   2/20/2014 at 06:08 (3,715 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

Anyone able to date James?
Must be a later version I think


Post# 268640 , Reply# 13   2/20/2014 at 06:41 (3,715 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

It would seem that James is a very very late model, so there's no way to date them other than if you find a date stamp somewhere on the vac

Post# 268643 , Reply# 14   2/20/2014 at 07:02 (3,715 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Well actually can can email Dyson the serial number and they should be able to tell you when it was made.
They did with my DC04, anyway


Post# 268664 , Reply# 15   2/20/2014 at 10:38 (3,715 days old) by citroenbx (england)        
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the dc01s with fins are what dyson put on later like when thay went in for service

when dc01s were made thay DID NOT HAVE FINS ON

hope this helps


Post# 268669 , Reply# 16   2/20/2014 at 11:55 (3,715 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Well there is that, Alex!

Post# 268670 , Reply# 17   2/20/2014 at 12:11 (3,715 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

Are you sure citroen? It was my late grandparents, I used to see them every weekend and clean up for them! I wasn't that young at the time, maybe around 8 or 9, they eventually bought a electrolux Powerlite as it was getting heavy for them.

I don't think James ever went into service for anything, so the lower cyclone must be original?
(see why I have named it that?)


Post# 268675 , Reply# 18   2/20/2014 at 14:07 (3,715 days old) by citroenbx (england)        
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they changed them i'm a dyson dc01 fan so i know this stuff

Post# 268677 , Reply# 19   2/20/2014 at 14:17 (3,715 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Adam, though it grieves me to say that someone is wrong, what has been said by Citreon is very wrong. I know for a fact that late production DC01 cleaners had fins on the cyclones, which is why I said so twice already. If I was in any doubt about it, I would never have said it. I saw them in the shops clearly enough, fins and all.

There were so many subtle changes to the DC01 that dating it is relatively easy. For instance, for many years the tools had the word DYSON printed in capitals and in the old font, long after the new lowercase 1996 logo was used. Later, the tools said 'dyson', this being around 1998, and later still the smaller tools were exchanged for the larger sets used on the Absolute cleaners.

The 13 amp plugs which were round in design were used from about 1996 up until around the end of 1999, but around 1998 the plastic earth pin was changed to metal.

The elasticated "doughnut" idea on the flex was invented around mid 1998 and was used on all new DC01 cleaners (and then later DC04), including those which went back for service. By the year 2000 Dyson were dispensing with the doughnut as it was causing too many new problems. Very late DC01 cleaners will have a square yellow Volex 13 amp plug and no doughnut.



Post# 268678 , Reply# 20   2/20/2014 at 14:19 (3,714 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Two more changes I forgot about. The upper cord hook was changed from a push-fit to one which was much more substantial and held in with a washer and screw. This was around 1998. Also around that time, a cord sleeve was introduced.

Post# 268721 , Reply# 21   2/20/2014 at 16:40 (3,714 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )        

Yes it has a square yellow volex plug. It has the rubber sheaf on the cable and the screw/washer as you mention.

Post# 268723 , Reply# 22   2/20/2014 at 17:03 (3,714 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Adam, you cleaner seems to be dating to around the year 2000. The standard DC01 and DC02 were still in production for well over a year after the 04 and 05 were brought out to replace them respectively. They sold for a lower price than the newest models and in the case of the DC01 it served to be the none-brush control model which Dyson wanted at one time. It was only around the time that the DC01 was finally discontinued that the DC04 grey & lime was put on sale, despite the main DC04 models being introduced long before.

Post# 268724 , Reply# 23   2/20/2014 at 17:06 (3,714 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

So when was production of the DC01 & DC02 stopped then?

Post# 268727 , Reply# 24   2/20/2014 at 17:16 (3,714 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Production finally stopped either very late in 1999 or during the year 2000. I do not know exactly when it stopped, but what I do know is that the yellow & grey versions of the 01 and 02 were sold well into the year 2000. Like I say, by then there were numerous DC04 and DC05 models on sale, but the basic 01 and 02 were now the 'budget' lines. The DC02 at this time now had the 'new' Dyson-designed floor tool, the same as supplied with the DC05 and DC04 D/S.

By keeping the 01 and 02 going, it set a trend, as Dyson did the exact same thing when the 04 was phased out to make way for the 07, and again the basic 07 was on sale long after the DC14 replaced that range.



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