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Thread Number: 23881
Vorwerk Kobold VK150.....what are they like! |
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| Post# 267509 2/13/2014 at 17:41 (3,717 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
Just wondered if anyone has a Vorwerk Kobold VK150 and what their thoughts on it are? Also anyone else who has used one? Or the VK140 as I believe they are the same all but in colour!!
I quite like them for there versatility with the different attachments and being light weight although never used one before! Thought about getting one to add to my SEBO Felix and Miele S7. I know there not cheap nor are the bags and pre motor filter. Wondered if they actually do clean as well as they say they do. Quite like the hard floor attachment that vacuums and washes your hard floors in one go! Thanks in advance for any thoughts and opinions. | ||
| Post# 267528 , Reply# 1 2/13/2014 at 18:52 (3,717 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
I asked about Vorwerk some time ago here on Vacuumland.
See www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-... CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK | ||
| Post# 267598 , Reply# 2 2/14/2014 at 03:54 (3,717 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
As a bog standard upright cleaner, there isn't much to choose between the Vorwerk and Sebo Felix. Both are compact and lightweight with a telescopic handle and swivel neck, and are very similar in their handling. The biggest difference is one has separate tools, the other onboard, which is a matter of personal taste. I prefer separate tools, and consider the design of the Vorwerk kit to be amongst the best available, but that's just me. YMMV.
Which one to go for? For most people I'd say the Sebo. It does what the majority would expect of a vacuum cleaner and is far more affordable. You can still interchange between the power nozzle and floor head, and there is an optional polisher unit available for those with enough hard flooring to warrant it. The Vorwerk is more suited to those who will use its additional functions. The dry cleaning kit is included, rather than requiring one to buy a separate machine, and works very well. You also have the option of the electric upholstery brush, and a glass cleaning kit. The polisher has been discontinued in line with modern housekeeping habits, and replaced by the new oscillating hard floor mopping head. Models from the VK140 onwards use a brushless motor, which is smaller and lighter and gives the cleaner a higher suction to weight ratio. These models also use a new multiple layered fleece dust bag which dispenses with the need for a separate HEPA filter. The motor filter is purely there to protect the machine if the bag was to be damaged or incorrectly installed, and does not need regular replacement. Instead, it can be vacuumed off or cleaned under running water. Only if damaged, or grossly soiled as a result of the bag puncturing (unlikely) would a new one be fitted. If you're seriously thinking about it, maybe look at acquiring a lightly used Vorwerk rather than a brand new one. On eBay Germany in particular they are ten a penny, and even with shipping you will save a considerable sum. Brand new ones have rocketed in price ever since Vorwerk UK handed the operation over to an appointed distributor; last time I bought one they were £530 for the full kit, now you're looking at 2-3 times as much depending on which options you go for. | ||
| Post# 267700 , Reply# 3 2/14/2014 at 18:21 (3,716 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 267702 , Reply# 4 2/14/2014 at 18:29 (3,716 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 267710 , Reply# 5 2/14/2014 at 19:00 (3,716 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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| Post# 267735 , Reply# 6 2/14/2014 at 21:04 (3,716 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 267762 , Reply# 7 2/15/2014 at 00:14 (3,716 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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For a £1000 you could get a new S8 Uniq, AND a new S4 Hybrid AND a second hand refurbished Kirby upright! And still have money left over if you play your cards right.
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| Post# 267775 , Reply# 8 2/15/2014 at 03:41 (3,716 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Now you both put it like that £1000 can get you a lot of vacuum cleaners instead of just one! I have thought about getting a cylinder vacuum be handy for above floor cleaning and cleaning the inside of the car. Although I'm not a fan of them I do like the SEBO K and D series and the Miele S8. Could get the entry S8 to match my S7! Even the Miele bags are cheaper than the Vorwerk VK150! Then again my trusty Felix and S7 are great performers and cheaper to run. Plus the Felix has interchangeable cleaning heads, dry powder to clean carpets etc....so why would I need a Vorwerk!
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| Post# 267780 , Reply# 10 2/15/2014 at 06:41 (3,716 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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I love my S7 as well as my Felix. I know what you mean about the S7 that why I took out the 10 year cover that Miele had on offer at the time only because I got my S7 at a very good price! The petal release looks complex and I have visions of issues with that later on! I probably use my Felix a bit more than the S7 but after a year the S7 doesn't look to bad!! That's my view on the Felix no wand or extension tubes but that would add weight I suppose. Suppose the hose could be slightly longer! I've got the extension hose but don't use it that much. I take the Felix up the stairs with me unless I use the S7!
I must admit I've yet to change the exhaust filter or pre motor filter on my Felix yet it's due for both very soon. Although it's 6 years old 7 this year in the first 2 to 3 years I didn't use it too much well not as much as I do now. After 6 years it's still as good as when it was new. I wouldn't replace my Felix just wanted to add to it and the S7. Like you say and others too the Vorwerk is overpriced for what it is! The SEBO's are cheap to run and the filtration is ok. I saw your SEBO K series thread looks very nice do like the K series. | ||
| Post# 267795 , Reply# 12 2/15/2014 at 09:17 (3,716 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Glad you are impressed with your K3 , looks a great cylinder vacuum.
I'm so glad I have now just in case as mine is the base model with the rotary dial! I see why you don't like to use yours anymore! I thought the undercarriage where the wheels are looks fragile!! Also don't like the idea you can not take the brush bar out to fully clean!! I certainly do it's the 'classic' one cream and burgundy. I think that is what it was called! It came with the deluxe parquet floor tool. Going to upgrade the pre motor filter to charcoal one when I change it as I have a dog! | ||
| Post# 267813 , Reply# 14 2/15/2014 at 10:23 (3,716 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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Lol that sounds about right! I probably wouldn't get used much in a rich persons mansion!
It's not bad for there first attempt at an upright. It does need to be lighter I read reviews that mention the weight factor. I agree the undercarriage and wheels are not designed for rough use over door fresh holds etc...where as the X4 is due to its design to with stands these things. | ||
| Post# 267823 , Reply# 15 2/15/2014 at 11:38 (3,716 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well, if you just rely on the website alone on SEBO UK, Steve you won't realise that SEBO stock all the exhaust filters. They have both the Rosso filter and Union Jack filter if you phone them. I already enquired about the Union Jack one at the start of the year.
Jon - I too have an early Felix and I wouldn't change it for the world. Eventually if it does go, then I will consider a new Felix in the future. I would hold off for the moment until the EU law vacs come into play. Then prices should fall on the high power motor vacs. We're not that far off from June 2014 when the brands will start releasing models on the market. This post was last edited 02/15/2014 at 12:00 | ||
| Post# 267868 , Reply# 16 2/15/2014 at 15:20 (3,715 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK) | ||
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I did wonder Ryan if your Felix was an earlier one, I know what you mean same here. I wouldn't swap my Felix for anything else absolutely love it and love using it. I too would have another one and an X4 to go with it. The Vorwerk VK150 wouldn't have replaced the Felix it would have just been an additional vacuum. I thought I'd ask what peoples thoughts on them where as I do like the idea of them. Have been tempted but I think they are overpriced for what they are and I think I would be wasting my money. I think you and others have convinced me even more not to get one as well as myself. It wouldn't compare to my Felix anyway!
My Felix is the best vacuum I think I've ever owned and I'm glad I took that chance and brought one all though 6 years ago. I don't regret it one bit. I prefer it over the S7 as it lighter and easy to move about. If I hadn't taken the additional cover on my S7 I might have got rid of that in exchange for a SEBO X4 or K or D series. Thats very true, can't wait to see what comes into the market. Look forward to these Eco vacuums of SEBO too. By the way Ryan my first synthetic bag in my Felix has been in the vacuum 5 months still a bit of room left just, so that is nearly double the paper ones! Love these new style bags. Why would I want a Vorwerk!! | ||
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