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Thread Number: 23777
Brand New TACONY Canister - the Wonder! |
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| Post# 266283 2/5/2014 at 14:54 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
With it's official launch at the Vacuum Dealer's Trade Association trade show in Los Vegas next Monday, the new Tacony canister vacuum is set to be the star of the show. It all began three years ago, when Management made of list of 'must haves' in a brand new canister vacuum. Many prototypes were designed, tested, and rejected before the current design was approved. The reason for the Museum, in addition to being open to the public, is so Engineering can get an idea of what worked decades ago, and how these ideas have 'stood the test of time'. Many of the ideas in the new Wonder model canister come from tried and true ideas of the past.
I've had a Prototype as my home vacuum cleaner for some time now, but have not been allowed to show it until now. Presenting a canister vacuum ALL collectors have been asking for ------ The Simplicity Wonder (the Riccar version is called the Prima and is blue). First: unboxing the suction monster. 
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| Post# 266284 , Reply# 1 2/5/2014 at 14:55 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266286 , Reply# 2 2/5/2014 at 14:58 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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The Complete "Premium" Simplicity Wonder with Full Size Power Nozzle (the machine is also available with the Compact Power Nozzle or the Straight Suction attachment set). I know the Power Nozzle says Riccar on it, the Simplicity power nozzle hadn't been made yet and this machine is from the very first production. They will all be shipped with the correct name on the Power Nozzle.
This is a vacuum you should ALL ask your local dealer for. 
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| Post# 266288 , Reply# 3 2/5/2014 at 14:59 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266289 , Reply# 4 2/5/2014 at 15:01 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266290 , Reply# 5 2/5/2014 at 15:02 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266291 , Reply# 6 2/5/2014 at 15:02 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266292 , Reply# 7 2/5/2014 at 15:03 (3,724 days old) by williamr1248 (USA) | ||
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thread 23777 Tom, Nice looking machine. What will be it's strong points and what is it geared to compete with on the market? I ALREADY like the tools better than the baby tools that came with my Miele. | ||
| Post# 266293 , Reply# 8 2/5/2014 at 15:04 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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This is exactly how the Museum influences Engineering. By rediscovering the best of the past, they can improve the present. When you think about the deplorable state of current vacuum cleaner 'attachments' (or 'toys' - think Dyson attachments) you'll immediately appreciate the beauty of REAL attachments.
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| Post# 266294 , Reply# 9 2/5/2014 at 15:06 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266295 , Reply# 10 2/5/2014 at 15:07 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266296 , Reply# 11 2/5/2014 at 15:09 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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New Floor Tool. It's called the "Wow" tool. The large brush and suction opening completely cleans the floor first, then the electrostatic pad (removable and washable and reusable) goes over the floor for a final polish. It swivels like a Miele twister tool, but does a FAR better job on heavy debris (like cat litter) scattered on a bare floor. Wonderful attachment - one of my all time favorites.
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| Post# 266297 , Reply# 12 2/5/2014 at 15:10 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266298 , Reply# 13 2/5/2014 at 15:11 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266299 , Reply# 14 2/5/2014 at 15:12 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266300 , Reply# 15 2/5/2014 at 15:13 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266301 , Reply# 16 2/5/2014 at 15:14 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266302 , Reply# 17 2/5/2014 at 15:16 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Showing the fully extended telescopic wand. So easy to reach ceiling fan blades and tops of drapes. The new hose length is 8 1/2 feet (the exact same as an Air-Way model 88). Long hose and long wand mean much LESS pulling and tugging on the cleaner. Clean an entire medium size room from one central position of the canister.
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| Post# 266303 , Reply# 18 2/5/2014 at 15:17 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266304 , Reply# 19 2/5/2014 at 15:17 (3,724 days old) by williamr1248 (USA) | ||
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23777 Sorry Tom, I jumped the gun! I like the looks of the power nozzle roller. Also like "made in usa" sticker. Thanks for posting the pictures. | ||
| Post# 266305 , Reply# 20 2/5/2014 at 15:18 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266306 , Reply# 21 2/5/2014 at 15:19 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266307 , Reply# 22 2/5/2014 at 15:21 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Just like a Model G, the new cord winder has a lock that the cord is placed in to prevent accidental rewinding when going too far from the outlet. The great benefit of 'window shade' rewinding is, you are generally across the room when the plug is pulled and the cord retracts. No getting smacked by the flying plug as the cord rewinds.
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| Post# 266309 , Reply# 23 2/5/2014 at 15:25 (3,724 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 266321 , Reply# 25 2/5/2014 at 16:37 (3,724 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
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Post# 266326 , Reply# 26 2/5/2014 at 17:28 (3,724 days old) by bagintheback  (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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| Post# 266328 , Reply# 27 2/5/2014 at 17:30 (3,724 days old) by luxman107 (USA ) | ||
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Really nice. | ||
| Post# 266333 , Reply# 28 2/5/2014 at 18:38 (3,724 days old) by veroroger (Vero Beach, Florida) | ||
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Great looking unit Tom, what is the slot on the back of the vacuum body next to the power cord? To me it looks like a parking slot and the wands look like they have a plastic piece designed to fit in there. | ||
| Post# 266335 , Reply# 29 2/5/2014 at 18:40 (3,724 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
Wow Tom 
Looks to be a near perfect canister vacuum cleaner.
I am excited and can't wait until I get mine love love that 9 ft hose and the Electrolux combo dusting upholstery tool that is THE best design ever . So amazing that they have you to give advice on vacuum designs . I so love my new Maytag 8lb upright Tacony is on a roll keep it up ! Dan | ||
| Post# 266343 , Reply# 30 2/5/2014 at 19:18 (3,724 days old) by jade_angel (Fort Collins, CO) | ||
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Looks *very* nice to me! I hope other colors are available too, but that's my only gripe. Will the shaped aluminum 3-row brush roll still be available in the power nozzle? | ||
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Post# 266391 , Reply# 32 2/6/2014 at 07:41 (3,723 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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| Post# 266397 , Reply# 33 2/6/2014 at 09:18 (3,723 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut) | ||
Wait One Minute...
I've been waiting all this time for THAT?
I though this would be my next vacuum that I've been waiting to replace my Miele Capricorn...now that I see it...YUCK! There is no way this is replacing the Immaculate or Impeccable. First, that has got to be the most ugliest design I've ever seen in a vacuum, (what's with the Coke bottle shape). Second, the color is hideous (why do manufactures pick the ugliest colors for vacuums). Third, are you telling me there is no 'on board' tool storage?...WHAT??? Forth, the name 'Wonder' and the chosen font (it doesn't exude strength, more child like) and it does look exactly like "Wonka" (that's the first thing I noticed and thought). Fifth, please don't tell me the floor brush works like the Miele Parquet floor brush (which doesn't work when pulling backwards on area rugs because it tilts back and doesn't make contact with the carpet). Sixth, that handle looks way uncomfortable (too raised and too arced). Seventh, manual everything??? Sliding power regulator on canister (not on hose), mechanical (not electronic) bag full indicator on canister. Eighth, no cord rewind button. Ninth, the ring around the cord rewind port has a big split at the seam (it should be seamless or at least appear seamless) it already looks like its going to come off. Tenth, the hose looks like a Miele hose (annoyingly springy and always bumping into things instead of hanging down out of the way). Eleventh, is it going to be boxed just like shown? It looks like it was thrown into a box, literally. Good points... First, power nozzle looks awesome. Second, telescoping wand looks nice. Third, roller skate wheels look like a smart idea. Overall I'm SO not impressed and like the Immaculate or Impeccable way more over the Wonder/Prima. What a let down! | ||
| Post# 266402 , Reply# 34 2/6/2014 at 09:56 (3,723 days old) by hooverkid (PA,USA) | ||
MSRP??? | ||
| Post# 266409 , Reply# 37 2/6/2014 at 10:35 (3,723 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Durability was upper most in the minds of the designers. A cord winder that uses a brake pedal is not durable in the long run. A hose all encumbered with electronics to turn the cleaner on or off, and control motor speed, mean lots of circuit boards (not durable). A simple motor speed control, along with a round suction control on the hose handle, are all that's needed. The dusting tool stores at the machine, just like it did on a Model G. It's right there. There is a slot at the back of the machine to dock the wand, power nozzle, or floor tool. The fit and finish of the machine is excellent. I guess one would have to actually see and use the cleaner to appreciate it. The Power Nozzle is very quiet in operation. The hose handle may look bulky, but feels great in use. Just the right size. The Riccar Prima is dark blue, the Simplicity Wonder is green. The cleaners are identical but for color. I do not know the selling price, as the machines are only now being shown to dealers for the first time. My favorite part is that the vacuum is extremely quiet (like a Model G). It's soft purr is very pleasant to listen to while dusting.
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| Post# 266410 , Reply# 38 2/6/2014 at 10:45 (3,723 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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| Post# 266411 , Reply# 39 2/6/2014 at 11:03 (3,723 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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Ok, the color has grown on me overnight. I kinda like it. I tend to prefer silver, gray, white, or black on vacuums for some reason. Is there no place to store the crevice tool on board anywhere? I use my crevice tool frequently so I prefer to carry it with me on the machine. | ||
| Post# 266412 , Reply# 40 2/6/2014 at 11:14 (3,723 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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That's good to hear about the power nozzle. I did not notice the slot at the rear until it was mentioned here. I didn't think the older Riccar's had parking slots but could be wrong. I hope they are quieter than they used to be. They used to make the most annoying racket. I have no major quarrels with the machine. I will definitely be looking into it at the local Riccar outlet. | ||
| Post# 266413 , Reply# 41 2/6/2014 at 11:19 (3,723 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 266414 , Reply# 42 2/6/2014 at 11:31 (3,723 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut) | ||
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@ gm1982
Yep I think you're right about the Aerus Platinum Canister, it offers a lot and very smart looking. The only thing...no on board tool storage.
Heck the Immaculate or Impeccable offers more than the forth coming Wonder/Prima and they look better doing it. It seems like the Wonder/Prima gave up on conveniences for "durability". I'm all for duality but there has to be a happy medium where you have all the bells and whistles...that lasts the test of time. You can tell the Wonder/Prima are not TOP OF THE LINE machines. It's 2014, are we saying we can't make a circuit board that can handle variable motor speeds, electronic connections that stay connected or not fail prematurely...vacuums should have come further by now. | ||
| Post# 266417 , Reply# 43 2/6/2014 at 12:05 (3,723 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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I wonder if there is a mini-nozzle (electric or turbo) available? | ||
| Post# 266421 , Reply# 45 2/6/2014 at 12:39 (3,723 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut) | ||
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@ electromatik
Ok...I see what you mean about the "accessory tool storage" as Lux calls it.
But I'm talking "Under The Hood" storage like the Riccar Immaculate or Impeccable store FULL sized tools (under a door but above the dust bag). Even the Kenmore Progressive stores ALL it's tools (including Power Mate Jr.) under the hood. I just can't understand why EVERY canister can't carry it's FULL sized tools under the hood...it's the most practical/convenience design going for those vacuums. | ||
| Post# 266432 , Reply# 47 2/6/2014 at 14:00 (3,723 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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It looks like an awesome machine. I wouldn't judge the color without seeing it in person. The picture likely doesn't do it justice. I'm not a fan of the "Wonder" name - because I don't know the story behind it. Maybe it would make more sense if Tom explained the origins of the name. | ||
| Post# 266437 , Reply# 49 2/6/2014 at 14:09 (3,723 days old) by gm1982 () | ||
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Lighter easy to use vacuums that last I think is what's becoming in demand now. Smaller easier to maneuver canisters. | ||
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Post# 266442 , Reply# 50 2/6/2014 at 14:24 (3,723 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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| Post# 266457 , Reply# 51 2/6/2014 at 16:23 (3,723 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC) | ||
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How beautiful I sooo want one of those vacs!! I love the colour and the name "wonder That PN looks like it would clean very well. | ||
| Post# 266460 , Reply# 52 2/6/2014 at 16:37 (3,723 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
The rear wheels....
They are placed like the Lux Guardian Platinum. I really like this as I have tile floors and when you pick up vacuums like the Lux Legacy, the backend bumps against the tile flooring. With the wheels in this position it eliminates this problem to not only the machine, but the floor. I stopped picking my vacuums up on the tile floor except the Lux Guardian Platinum. I just pull the rest onto the carpet area....
It will be nice to see the price range of these vacuums. Also will the top of the power nozzle match the machine color? Like on other Simplicities and Riccars. Tom, Thanks for giving us a preview, I am sure we have all been anxious to see these new machines. PR-21 Bud | ||
| Post# 266494 , Reply# 55 2/6/2014 at 19:09 (3,723 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
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| Post# 266577 , Reply# 58 2/7/2014 at 10:47 (3,722 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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I don't mind the size of the crevice tool on the Wonder. I don't use my house vacs outdoors. I have a Shop Vac that I use for cars, guess I'm funny that way. | ||
| Post# 266603 , Reply# 60 2/7/2014 at 16:57 (3,722 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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carry handle
On the bottom. Very large opening. Cleaner weighs 6 3/4 pounds. Very easy to carry and pull. It's not designed to replace the Immaculate or any of the full size (huge) canisters, it's designed to replace all the mid size models. Mid size price point too. While I don't know exactly what it will be yet, I do know the price is no where near what the huge full size canisters are. It should be very reasonable - and you're getting an extremely durable machine (as if you were buying a Model G today).
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| Post# 266628 , Reply# 61 2/7/2014 at 22:03 (3,722 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut) | ||
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I knew it...
@ dysonman1...
I knew it couldn't replace the Immaculate/Impeccable or Moxie/Gusto. Thanks for clearing that up. I still think the "Wonder" is butt ugly, but may I ask...who is Riccar's demographic with this vacuum? I ask because it just doesn't fit in with the line up with what Riccar offers currently with its mid size, compact and subcompact lines (even full sized). Is a model getting discontinued or is the Wonder being added to the line up. Is there really a big issue with what they offer now in regards to hardware, circuit boards, connections etc that the Wonder is supposed to "correct"? I'm having a hard time understanding the purpose of this vacuum and all the energy, time and money that went into building this thing. | ||
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Post# 266655 , Reply# 62 2/8/2014 at 09:38 (3,721 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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AWESOME! I've been wishing for something like this. Great to have a longer hose, but how long is the cord? Oh and I love that it's quiet, hopefully quieter than the other Riccar models. | ||
| Post# 266677 , Reply# 64 2/8/2014 at 12:21 (3,721 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Some of you get
this vacuum some don't .
Tom had a very big part in its development its a vacuum built to last with certain things taken from vacuums of the past from the museum . hence the reference to the 1205 and the color too ! I love how some with a collection of under 10 vacuums seem to be "the" masters of vacuum critique . Tom has a collection of I think over 600 vacuums myself over 450 and he has owned a vacuum store as well as myself . I feel he is most qualified to know what should go into vacuum manufacturing and is an asset to Tacony and his input is very important . I am very excited to ad this vacuum to my collection as I will be purchasing this as soon as its available. It is designed to be a user friendly simple beautifully designed long lasting vacuum period . Tom doesn't have to share anything with the club but does so graciously and I feel he doesn't deserve such nasty comments about this "Wonder"ful vacuum. Thank you Tom for showing this vacuum and I appreciate you giving your professional knowledge to help Tacony bring this vacuum to market. Dan | ||
| Post# 266681 , Reply# 65 2/8/2014 at 12:54 (3,721 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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I really can appreciate the retro color now. I also like the way it's shaped. This vacuum is quite competitive with the other mid-range high-end vacuums. It has all the features that Miele's mid-range machines do. Tacony must be doing a whole lot right because they control the #1 market share in high-end vacuums in the U.S. market. | ||
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Post# 266785 , Reply# 68 2/8/2014 at 19:44 (3,721 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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YAY, no circuit boards!!
GeorgeCT, the problem with circuit boards and you've probably experienced this is that their life is short. Several appliances have them installed in the current market line up from refrigerators, to washing machines to vacuum cleaners. Just about any new appliance on the market regardless of the category to have a problem, it tends to be the circuit board. Many of the boards are about $80 just themselves to break but in some cases a bad circuit board causes other issues to fail.
I think you'll like the tug and release cord winder system. That's how I refer to them or as Tom says it's like a window shade!! They work nice and are easier to use than you think!! My Hoover Celebrity, Eureka Rotomatic have them and they're excellent!! Some Kenmore canisters-- the current model lime green is a tug and release system. I find it much easier to pull cord out on the tug and release style than with a button winder style. I think Tom mentioned that Tacony has more models being released too??? The Wonder/ Prima line is just one series. That being the case we may be seeing a lighter weight but full sized machine to replace Gusto/ Moxie style series. The Moxie and Gusto have tremendous power and I love how quiet the suction unit is however weight and wheels getting stuck on it's own cord and other things are an issue. I like the onboard tool storage of those styles. However the onboard tools are a chintzy combo dusting/ upholstery tool. Crevice tool is at par with much of the rest of the market and it's a smaller bare floor brush on board. Other than for a quick pick up spot removal, I can't understand using a bare floor brush for area rugs. While some may work you'll flare the bristles out and most of your dirt will get caught in the extra soft bristles that are designed for bare floor usage and not rugs. Your better bet I'd say and I've cleaned numerous houses over the years as a business, is using power nozzle, even with brush roll turned off or Mini power head or upholstery nozzle. You could also get Riccars combo bare floor/ rug head or another manufacturers since the hose looks to be universal fit so just about any friction fit attachment will slide on and fit!! I think the "Wonder" name partly comes for it being almost a wonder of its time. A canister vac with an actual variable speed motor rather than a circuit board that just controls the electrical power transferred to the motor causing motor and board failure. The tug and release cord system, the hose grip looks almost comfortable for multiple positions to hold onto. The older style Riccar hose material was very flexible and easy to use, I'm sure this newer style will be just as easy if not more so for ease of use!! Just look how nicely it's coiled up in Reply 2, I know some hoses that wouldn't do that!! I look forward to trying one someday when I make it down to visit Tom or in my local vac shop! | ||
| Post# 266830 , Reply# 69 2/9/2014 at 02:45 (3,721 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut) | ||
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I'm not a "Retro" type of guy...
@ Durango159
Rob...I take really good care of my appliances and to this day have a working Hoover Dimension 1000 (my first "electronic" vacuum). I've never had any problems with circuit boards on any thing I own. My whole house is surge protected and my computers, TV's and electronics are individually plugged into "protected" outlets. My Hoover Dimension 1000 is not a tug and rewind cord rewinder, it has a step on cord rewind that still works to this day. So I don't buy that a "tug to rewind" cord rewinder is any better than a brake system (it just has to be made right). If indeed Riccar has "updated" models coming out to replace their "full size" lineup, and if the Wonder is any indication of what's to come for those updated full sized models...then count me out. I want all the bells and whistles, I want all the conveniences, I want all the latest electronics and I want them to last (like my Dimension 1000). You know what...if Riccar can make a current day version of the Dimension 1000 I'd buy it in a heart beat...no matter what the price. I don't mind paying for QUALITY. I don't like "Retro" anything. To me, that's not moving forward. It's going to be 2015 and Riccar is introducing a "year one" vacuum, how is that innovative? It's actually taking a back seat and making a fail safe boring retro machine. It just wont compete with the Dyson's or Miele's of this and future generations. Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT a Dyson fan but at least they are being innovative, bold and taking chances. Shouldn't Riccar be as innovative as Dyson and as timeless as Miele? Hell yeah! Actually Riccar should be light years ahead of Miele or Dyson but the Wonder is no match. Now I don't know who this Tom (dysonman1) person is and I'm not attacking him or his work and I'm not being nasty...I'm being TOTALLY HONEST and not holding back. I truly appreciate the time he took posting these pictures and sharing his information with the rest of us. In fact I'm the only one that "Checkrate/Like'ed" his original post. I did wait to purchase a Riccar because of Tom's insight that there was a "new" Riccar coming out this year and now that vacuum is the "Wonder". The "Wonder" is the total opposite of what I'm looking for in a vacuum. Maybe the next vacuum they produce will be the one I'll LOVE and all of you can hate that. Until then, I just don't see the point of the Wonder. | ||
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Post# 266831 , Reply# 70 2/9/2014 at 03:02 (3,721 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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Well I can say that I love Hoover Dimension 1000's too. I have 2 of them but they are the more basic models with standard hose and no electronic variable speed. I also grew up with a Hoover Dimension 1000 which my parents inherited when we had my grandparents into a nursing home. That machine had the cord replaced a few times from cleaning assistants running the Quadraflex Powermatic over the cords. I'm not sure how many times if ever the cord winder may have been replaced. At this present time that machine sits in my parents attic as a spare. The power head is long gone, front wheel on canister doesn't stay in place and cord winder does not operate. But machine sounds great with lots of power while running. I wish machines like that were still around though as I love the onboard tool set on that machine. If a Hoover Dimension 1000 was still made with a quick connect wand system, better filtration and rubberized wheels on power nozzle it would be a hell of a nice modern day cleaner!!
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| Post# 266849 , Reply# 71 2/9/2014 at 09:29 (3,720 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut) | ||
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@ Durango159
Well at least we both can agree on something.
It would be totally awesome to see a modern day Dimension 1000 with the features you mentioned (quick connect wand system, better filtration and rubberized wheels on power nozzle). I'd also like to see natural bristles (horse hair) used on the on board tools instead of nylon and a telescoping wand. Oh yeah and a more sleeker color (not green). I love the fact that the Dimension was FULL SIZED, had very neat and clean lines, had variable power (that you can control from the handle). I guess this is what I was hoping Riccar (Tacony) was going to produce. Boy was I let down when the Wonder came out instead. I have not read (correct me if I'm wrong) that Tom said there were other Tacony models coming out but now I'm kind of scared if they do. I wouldn't want to see another stripped down bare minimum vacuum like the Wonder added to the line up, taking away full featured models. | ||
| Post# 266850 , Reply# 72 2/9/2014 at 09:42 (3,720 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
If Tacony really wanted to have a canister that stood out from the crowd, they should provide a nicely-designed attachment carrier that could hold a full set of full-size attachments. That Swiffer Bare Floor Tool is a giant step in the right direction, but if you are not going to provide on-board tool storage (in order to keep the weight down), Tacony should bring back the classic concept of a separate tool carrier. There is plenty of room for innovative design in that department...and a modern plastic version of the old cardboard tool carriers would be a great marketable feature.
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| Post# 266983 , Reply# 73 2/10/2014 at 14:35 (3,719 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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How well does Wonder clean carpet? Any preliminary results on the Wonder's carpet cleaning ability? How well does it perform in the company's lab tests? | ||
| Post# 267095 , Reply# 74 2/10/2014 at 23:15 (3,719 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
VDTA pic. | ||
| Post# 267113 , Reply# 75 2/11/2014 at 06:50 (3,718 days old) by constellation86 (Roy, UT) | ||
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I like the darker version in the last picture! Are they planning on making a Maytag similar to this? And Yay for the long hose! I am sick of 6 foot or shorter hoses! Nicholas | ||
| Post# 267244 , Reply# 77 2/11/2014 at 22:08 (3,718 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
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Another VDTA pic from Joshua... | ||
| Post# 267295 , Reply# 78 2/12/2014 at 09:00 (3,717 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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That is a very alluring color. I quite like it. | ||
| Post# 267296 , Reply# 79 2/12/2014 at 09:03 (3,717 days old) by gm1982 () | ||
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Its growing on me... from the features discussed, I think I might want one. Where and when can I get it. I think Riccar needs to update its website. | ||
| Post# 267304 , Reply# 80 2/12/2014 at 09:52 (3,717 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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| Post# 267307 , Reply# 81 2/12/2014 at 10:06 (3,717 days old) by ctvacman (CT) | ||
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Yes, I too wish tacony would be better about updating their site. For the last three years it's said cleaning supplies coming soon. I like how simplicity shows in depth pics of the bottom of some of their machines where as the riccar site does not. Colby | ||
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Post# 267308 , Reply# 82 2/12/2014 at 10:25 (3,717 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree) |
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New floor tools? I see pics in the background of the last pic. Tom, tell us about the floor tools. | ||
| Post# 267314 , Reply# 83 2/12/2014 at 11:26 (3,717 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND) | ||
I've had the prima since December and I love how quiet the machine is.
it has a lot of power for the size. I just don't like how the accessories clip to the hose. they snag and its awkward. I also broke the plastic clips on the hose that make the air seal. That issue has been addressed already so they haven't been having issues with that anymore. | ||
| Post# 267325 , Reply# 85 2/12/2014 at 12:32 (3,717 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND) | ||
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| Post# 267326 , Reply# 86 2/12/2014 at 12:36 (3,717 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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| Post# 267329 , Reply# 87 2/12/2014 at 13:08 (3,717 days old) by gm1982 () | ||
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The extension hose is available, but is it electrified for powerhead's? | ||
| Post# 267330 , Reply# 88 2/12/2014 at 13:18 (3,717 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 267338 , Reply# 89 2/12/2014 at 14:11 (3,717 days old) by jkbff (Dickinson, ND) | ||
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| Post# 267411 , Reply# 90 2/13/2014 at 06:39 (3,716 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut) | ||
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What's witht the type of hose?
The hose looks like it's made of the same material that's used in Miele's (and some other vacuums).
The hose has a lot of "spring" to it and no weight which makes it bump into things (plants on tables, TV, furniture) while you vacuum. Sometimes making more of a mess. Yeah maybe it wont crack in time but it wont get out of it's own way while you work with it and it's very annoying. It's almost like a shop vac with it's hard plastic hose (just not as wide in diameter). Can't they add more rubber to it to give it weight so it hangs down and not stick straight out of it's connections? | ||
| Post# 267413 , Reply# 92 2/13/2014 at 07:23 (3,716 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Post# 267417 , Reply# 93 2/13/2014 at 07:52 (3,716 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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GeorgeCT,
I agree with you - I hate those type of hoses as well. I had a Miele Capricorn and the hose was one of the main reasons I got rid of it. It was always in the way. Kirbyloverdan, Wrapping it around your waist in a U shape is just not practical when vacuuming in tight quarters or using the above the floor tools and you have the hose in one hand while holding the knick knack being dusted. I much prefer the hoses that are used by Aerus, FQ, Rainbow, etc. Gary | ||
| Post# 267424 , Reply# 94 2/13/2014 at 08:35 (3,716 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Gary
I know what you mean about Miele hoses but they are very short and stiffer than other hoses .
My suggestion wrapping the hose around the waist is for vacuuming the hose won't get in the way nor will the canister get cought up on anything . I haven't experienced problems with any Tacony vacuum hose as I always use them to dust . I have lots of antiques and stuff around I guess I'm just very paitent while I am cleaning and dusting . Dan | ||
| Post# 267425 , Reply# 95 2/13/2014 at 09:12 (3,716 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.) | ||
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The hoses Miele and Tacony use are MADE to be springy. Tacony and Miele use "crushproof" hoses and they are designed to "spring" back easily. There is a bit of a battle going on between that type and wire-reinforced hoses. I must say I prefer the wire-reinforced hoses as they are heavier and will NOT kink. | ||
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Post# 267433 , Reply# 96 2/13/2014 at 10:39 (3,716 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA) |
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The vacuum looks very nice. I am not a lover of telescoping wands or that style of hose end...to bulky. With that being said, it would still be a first choice vacuum for me.
Still a Kirby or Royal person...you can't beat them. Wondering about the noise level for this machine...if it is close to the Model G Lux...It would move higher in the pecking order..LOL | ||
| Post# 267462 , Reply# 97 2/13/2014 at 12:52 (3,716 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut) | ||
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About "non-kink" hoses
They really can't kink anymore because most manufactures have smartened up and made 360 degree swivel connections at either the wand end and or the canister end connections.
Or they actually are able to turn freely with in the connections at both ends. So with that in mind it would be nice to see reinforced hoses come back to be the norm. It's so much nicer to have the hose have a more "hanging" (down out of the way) property than a "spring loaded" (not so flexible) property. | ||
| Post# 267479 , Reply# 98 2/13/2014 at 15:09 (3,716 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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The problem with wire bound hoses is the cleaning lady. They always step on them and those hoses STAY flat. A crushproof hose is lighter in weight, less expensive to replace, and doesn't continue to stay flat. You'll note the hose sheath (like Lux used starting with the Oly) to keep it from becoming flat due to gravity while being stored. Everything about this machine was designed from a durability standpoint, and to SURVIVE the cleaning lady. While collectors can wax nostalgic all day about what THEY would want, the machine must be something the average non-vacuum person would not only BUY but can't destroy. The ultimate goal is to have something the dealers can sell for a decent profit, the machine STAYS sold and the customer is happy with their purchase, and repairs can be accomplished easily and inexpensively when it does need one. Those goals have been met. It also cleans extremely well, and is QUIET. I dare say a Model G is slightly louder. Turned them both on today at the Museum, next to each other, and the G is just barely louder than the Wonder.
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| Post# 267484 , Reply# 99 2/13/2014 at 15:48 (3,716 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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perfect response Tom , Tacony`s in business to sell to the public and collectors .
If they had to just sell to collectors they would be out of business . These new machines will be amazing and will be a big hit to consumers and Vacuum shop owners all over the US . Great Job and I cant wait to get mine . Dan | ||
| Post# 267488 , Reply# 100 2/13/2014 at 16:21 (3,716 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut) | ||
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Of course I want Riccar/Simplicity (Tacony) to do well. | ||
| Post# 267500 , Reply# 103 2/13/2014 at 16:53 (3,716 days old) by gm1982 () | ||
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I might be trading or selling my Aerus Upright for a Tacony model, perhaps this new canister when I demo it, or going for the Radiance. | ||
| Post# 267503 , Reply# 104 2/13/2014 at 17:06 (3,716 days old) by joshdonnell () | ||
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The wonder I love the color of the Wonder . And it looks likes a pretty good vacuum. | ||
| Post# 267514 , Reply# 106 2/13/2014 at 18:15 (3,716 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Power Nozzle is quieter .
I never had a problem with the noise from my Riccar 1800 I think the machine is perfection I have nothing to complain about the Riccar . My Aerus Platinum , same thing the power nozzle noise never bothered me it is how I have always remembered Electrolux/Aerus PN sound they have a distinct sound to them which I love . Dan | ||
| Post# 267522 , Reply# 107 2/13/2014 at 18:41 (3,716 days old) by ctvacman (CT) | ||
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I guess that's what bothered me with my 1800 is the PN was loud compared to the hushed noise of the canister. Love the sound of my electrolux PN can tell the sound of one a mile away. My new guardian platinum with the "quieter" PN just doesn't have that classic sound sadly. | ||
| Post# 267526 , Reply# 108 2/13/2014 at 18:47 (3,716 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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| Post# 267535 , Reply# 110 2/13/2014 at 19:19 (3,716 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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| Post# 267536 , Reply# 111 2/13/2014 at 19:20 (3,716 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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I LOVE it! Finally something sENSIBLE! This is a winner Tom! | ||
| Post# 267709 , Reply# 112 2/14/2014 at 18:52 (3,715 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
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What is the difference between
Tom,
What is the difference between the Simplicity Tool It and the Wonder Canister WOW tool? I bought the tool it because it looks similar and am trying to use it on my Simplicity Symmetry Premium. Hose attached and metal button lock wands. I have only used it once, haven't quite got the hang of the way it maneuvers. Plus the wand size is a hair different. Tape on the wand where it is inserted into the tool will fix the little bit of looseness. Thanks for your help, PR-21 Bud Mattingly | ||
| Post# 267752 , Reply# 113 2/14/2014 at 22:37 (3,715 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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I may bite the bullit!!! I dont own anything newer than the early 70s , but I may just have to have one of these, if Tom had anything to do with the design, its got to be well made,running a vac shop gives you insight into what breaks most often! | ||
| Post# 267753 , Reply# 114 2/14/2014 at 22:39 (3,715 days old) by cleaningbuff (Quincy, IL) | ||
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| Post# 268684 , Reply# 116 2/20/2014 at 14:43 (3,709 days old) by snowman () | ||
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When can we get some ? | ||
| Post# 268691 , Reply# 117 2/20/2014 at 14:55 (3,709 days old) by gm1982 () | ||
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slow to deliver.... we are wondering about the Wonder. Stock them and update your website. Definitely update your website, a glowing website is key to today's product marketing. | ||
| Post# 268951 , Reply# 118 2/22/2014 at 13:12 (3,707 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 269007 , Reply# 120 2/22/2014 at 19:03 (3,707 days old) by richardlxixxx (Jupiter, Florida) | ||
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Riccar I completely agree. Both the Riccar and Simplicity web sites need to be updated and upgrades.
What does the Prima look like. Any photos?
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| Post# 269014 , Reply# 121 2/22/2014 at 20:19 (3,707 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
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See reply 77 for the Prima | ||
| Post# 295339 , Reply# 122 8/25/2014 at 05:39 (3,524 days old) by DANOROB1 (Central New Jersey) | ||
Good Morning All...
Does anyone know when these will be released for public sale ? I am looking for a new daily driver and thought this would be perfect, but we have no dealers near us... Tom - How does one purchase this vac, when there are no dealers around ? I would be looking for one with the full size power nozzle... Thanks, Dan P. | ||
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