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Post# 266068   2/4/2014 at 09:22 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I received today my latest and best Miele canister to date. The S8730 Automatic Hepa. A very distinctive model similar to the US version S8 Kona, but lacking a power nozzle. This cost me £170 including shipping from Miele.co.uk. The day after I bought it, they increased the price to £207.50, but even then its still an absolute bargain!

In the UK it is the only model of S8 to feature a handgrip with remote control, although it is not as comprehensive as the US version S8 Uniq. The controls on the handle are Standby, power up/down.

It also features the Dynamic Drive castor system fitted to the Uniq, which has shock absorbers and pneumatic tyres. It has a full information display, featuring lights for power levels, Filter change warning, Overheat warning, Automatic mode indicator and buttons for overriding the remote handset, and resetting the filter change warning light. It also features the automatic power off switch in the rear parking bracket, which only the Uniq has in addition to this model.

Unlike all other models of S8, including the Uniq, the S8730 does not have foot controls for +/-, with the power being solely controlled from the handle, via RF Remote battery power.

It also features a HEPA filter cartridge, and comfort rewind. The Turbo brush is not standard and is from my S6220 Cat and Dog. The head that is supplied is the standard combi head, the high quality Miele Allteq. Its powered at 2200W Max.

Unlike the Uniq, this model along with all other models in the S8 range does not have the facility to take power off to run a power nozzle.

These old stock models are still available for anyone interested, and they are a VERY reasonable price at £207. I would recommend getting one as these are the end of this line, and are second down from the Uniq, at a fraction of the price.



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Post# 266069 , Reply# 1   2/4/2014 at 09:23 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Body colour - Obsidian Black, the same as the S8310 base model




This post was last edited 02/04/2014 at 10:07
Post# 266070 , Reply# 2   2/4/2014 at 09:24 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Control panel:


Post# 266071 , Reply# 3   2/4/2014 at 09:25 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Radio controlled Remote comfort handle


Post# 266072 , Reply# 4   2/4/2014 at 09:26 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Dynamic drive castors:


Post# 266073 , Reply# 5   2/4/2014 at 09:27 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Miele GN 4.5 litre Hyclean bag and Full sealed HEPA filter cartridge:


Post# 266074 , Reply# 6   2/4/2014 at 09:30 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

All in all this is an unbeatable deal on this model, which looks like the base model S8310 in Obsidian Black, but really is a TOL model and very much worth snapping up from Miele before they all go. The Website does not show off this vac to its full potential and whoever designed it needs a lesson in how to show off a vac to customers, and list ALL its good points and benefits which the Miele website clearly does not.


Post# 266111 , Reply# 7   2/4/2014 at 12:28 (3,705 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

I love the colour! Good Choice.

Post# 266112 , Reply# 8   2/4/2014 at 12:41 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

It looks better in real life - the flash on the camera makes it look crap and second hand - I had to examine it carefully to decide whether it was an ex display or a refurbed model, but as far as I can see, its all new. Its just that its been in store since the middle of 2012 I suspect when the S8 range was first launched. I've never even seen one of these before I saw them on the website, and they seem more common in Europe than the UK.

I think that more canisters should have handle remotes - they are just so much more convenient.

The new range of Samsung Motion Sync bagless canisters and some AEG Ultra one canisters have handle remotes, but many others don't.

 


Post# 266113 , Reply# 9   2/4/2014 at 12:44 (3,705 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

The Hoover Silent Energy has one & a few Hotpoint Cylinders do too.

The only problem with the UltraOne is that they suffered early failure with the handle.


Post# 266115 , Reply# 10   2/4/2014 at 12:53 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The problem is that the silent energy and the Samsung motion sync only have 2 or 3 settings on the handle. You can either have full power, just under full power, or low power. There isn't 6 settings, plus an Automatic setting like on the Miele handle control.


Post# 266116 , Reply# 11   2/4/2014 at 12:54 (3,705 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

Exactly, there not as good quality or a flexible with the controls.

Post# 266117 , Reply# 12   2/4/2014 at 13:06 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The worst canisters are those with no suction control, and when you only have the standard floorhead without turbobrush, the full suction of some canisters is so high that its very hard work to push the floorhead back and forth over carpet, and often you have to suffer the noise of the handle relief valve being open to enable the floorhead to move easier.

Having an electronic suction control on the handle means you can control the motor speed easier, and makes using a canister vac on carpets much easier.

Most multicyclonic canister vacs like Dysons are single speed - maximum suction all the time and its just not needed all the time. That's the beauty of bagged canisters, most of them have adjustable suction power.


Post# 266119 , Reply# 13   2/4/2014 at 13:15 (3,705 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

You are right there - but even the Argos Value Bagged Cylinder has variable suction power (VC-06) & that cost's £24.50. It also uses a 1200 watt motor that produces 260AW. In my opinion it's worth paying that extra bit more than the basic model at £18 as the floorhead is very poor when you have fixed suction.

For me the Vacuum I buy must have a decent floorhead, can't be doing with fiddly plastic things.


Post# 266120 , Reply# 14   2/4/2014 at 13:21 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Note that the Hoover Jazz and Turbopower canisters don't have a suction selector dial, but the Rush, which is only single cyclonic does have one. If the speed of the motor on a multicyclonic is reduced then the cyclones don't separate the dirt as well, that's why the likes of single cyclonics like the Rush and the Vax Power 6 and 7 which have power control dials clog their filters very quickly when the motor is slowed down, so enabling the dirt to get sucked straight into the filter instead of being spun out by fast airflow round the cyclone.

Bagged vacs don't have this problem.


Post# 266121 , Reply# 15   2/4/2014 at 13:22 (3,705 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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It used to be easy to find cylinders with remote control handles but then they seemed to stop offering them! At least they seem to making a comeback, and I've just noticed on the Vax website they are now offering an Air cylinder with a powerhead!!! I really hope more do the same.

Post# 266122 , Reply# 16   2/4/2014 at 13:25 (3,705 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

That's the Air Mini & it's half price (proper price) at £149.99 from £299.99 & a £50 voucher!

Post# 266123 , Reply# 17   2/4/2014 at 13:32 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Those are called Windtunnel Air models in the US and most of them have power nozzles. Both made by TTI. The Air mini doesn't get many good reviews in the UK so I'd avoid it. Knowing Vax's like I do, I'd not expect the power head to be very reliable either.

 

The US version:


Post# 266124 , Reply# 18   2/4/2014 at 13:39 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

In addition myself and sebo_fan were discussing PN's last night and the lack of them in the UK. Sebo do a couple, but sebo_fan said not to bother as they are heavy and unwieldy.

The thing is that uprights are now so small and convenient that models like the Sebo Felix or Vax Mach Air can be substituted for a canister with power nozzle, so electric nozzles on canisters have gone out of fashion here. We also have more efficient turbo brushes which do just as good a job as an electric head, as in the UK we have much more powerful vacs to drive turbo brushes than in the USA where they have 1400W (12A) max motors due to their power supply only being 120V. (using the laws of physics lol)


Post# 266127 , Reply# 19   2/4/2014 at 13:57 (3,705 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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Looking at the user guide seems to come with a different powerhead to the US Hoover, my Mach Air cylinder has held up very well so far had it about a year and a half. I agree I've looked at the Sebo's and the powerhead is big, the UltraOne's is much more compact. Anyway nice Miele I must get a Miele I keep saying I will, did you post any pics of the new Vax you brought, I must of missed them if you did?

Post# 266129 , Reply# 20   2/4/2014 at 14:15 (3,705 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Well, that Vax performance floor to floor was so poor that its gone up in the loft now for long term storage. If I buy a pup - then I don't go showing it off on VL - it doesn't deserve the coverage. The Which report really put me off Vax as well with those damning verdicts on the Zoom, which, although it aint perfect, its not THAT bad.

I only want to have my decent bagged vacs on display now, and the Dysons and Vaxes have been banished to the loft room.

I could get 2 of the above S8730's - top quality German engineering for less than 1 cheap and nasty Malay made Dyson Dc54's - now hows that for a comparison. Dyson is rapidly pricing himself out of the market.



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