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Thread Number: 23748
Re-Appearance Of The Fabulous Miele S4 |
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| Post# 265961 2/3/2014 at 17:35 (3,733 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Strangely, whilst Miele have been doing re-runs of their old S700 cylinder vacs in the UK, a "new" S4213 model has appeared called "Young Style." It doesn't appear to bring anything new to the table other than Miele's bog standard all plastic suction floor head, 2000 watts, standard tools, "lava grey" colour and uses the smaller FJM bag as it always has done.
Still, to those (like me and perhaps others) it's good to see this great little Miele has reappeared, even if it is a little late in light of eco-regulations... Prices average from £124-99 upwards. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK 
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| Post# 265965 , Reply# 2 2/3/2014 at 17:51 (3,733 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well I suppose its because of its size -the S4 was the original "compact" Miele cylinder vac and was supposed to be a replacement for the hugely unpopular "Alternative" stick vac. I have had quite a few S4 cylinder vacs - they're one of my favourites from the Miele line up.
Much better built than the lousy S2 in my opinion - thus because of its size, lightweight design and smaller dust bag, it has probably been given the name "Young Style" to appeal to young buyers. I hope Miele get good sales for it - it would be a pity to see it disappear again. Not keen on that floor head though - the older metal soleplate based ones are far more durable. | ||
| Post# 265983 , Reply# 4 2/3/2014 at 18:38 (3,733 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I supported Miele for the decision to build the S4 Hybrid. They emailed me years ago with a view to ask if I would test one for them and I declined as I don't tend to write reviews "on behalf of brands," but rather buy independently and review fairly.
The S4 Hybrid is a great idea in theory and could work out for any singleton or a couple who requires a conventional vacuum but then has the cordless idea of being used in a shorter cleaning session. Need any examples? Cleaning out the car in a jiffy, or cleaning in an area such as loft cleaning if you can't stretch to a mains power plug. There are plenty of reasons to why the S4 Hybrid makes sense, even if it does only offer a short cordless cleaning time. As you know though, the cost price is rather high. I like the idea of the S4 Hybrid better than the S8 UniQ. Had Miele offered cordless power on the S8 UniQ, it would make more sense and justify the high asking prices. Added lights that give a bit of bling really isn't what I'm looking for - if I was, I'd have attached a ring of lights around the drum of my washing machine to "light up the room" each time a spin speed was selected. How annoying would that be? The added lights on the S8 UniQ certainly make the the vacuum UniQ but not all things unique are better than those that go without. | ||
| Post# 265997 , Reply# 6 2/3/2014 at 19:09 (3,733 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I think it depends on the market, Steve. Although Miele have fairly good success with their S700 Revolution that had a PN as standard in the 1990s, I don't think Miele did that well to justify PN's on TOL models in the UK. if the sales aren't there, there's no point for a brand to offer that WHEN THEY HAVE so many other models in their range.
SEBO are different as they are a much smaller brand and only make vacuums, thus they can offer the PN models if they wish. Whilst Roger's videos are very good and always present a high standard, it isn't possible to always have the same model across every continent and one thing I love about Miele in the Uk is that at the very least, you can buy the optional tools and accessories RATHER than what U.S buyers have had to put up with for many years = specified models as standard with features as opposed to the option of having those accessories to buy singularly. Its the same with SEBO in the U.S -= they sell accessories separately but it seems to be a very selected model line up as per "added name" in Miele's case as opposed to the model numbers they use here. | ||
| Post# 266009 , Reply# 8 2/3/2014 at 19:47 (3,733 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well it goes in leaps and bounds, you can't compare currency prices with likewise and expect the same.
Hoover in the U.S for example still sell the £30 to £40 odd Hoover Studio that Argos et al used to sell for years. Their price is $79 which is roughly £49. Im surprised Hoover.com are still selling those little bagged cylinder vacs. They're not bad but the ones in the U.S seem to be fitted with poorer plastics that has given the little vac such a poor feedback from owners. Similarly, the SEBO Felix Pet is $599 on Amazon.com (£367-65), yet is £100 cheaper if going by UK prices on Amazon.co.uk (£267). These are just examples, Steve - it has little to do with mark up, but rather then currency rates. Of course there is a little mark up, but that is to be expected - all part of business. But then I bet it is the opposite with Kirby prices in the UK compared to the U.S or even venerable Oreck. | ||
| Post# 266084 , Reply# 9 2/4/2014 at 11:36 (3,733 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe) | ||
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| Post# 266155 , Reply# 11 2/4/2014 at 16:34 (3,732 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 266159 , Reply# 12 2/4/2014 at 16:38 (3,732 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Whoop - just found this as well. Debenhams have the S4212 blue model. £99/£129
CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK 
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| Post# 266177 , Reply# 13 2/4/2014 at 17:24 (3,732 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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Its out of stock though - did you buy the last one sebo_fan? | ||
| Post# 266180 , Reply# 14 2/4/2014 at 17:51 (3,732 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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