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Post# 265592   1/31/2014 at 17:44 (3,729 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

Hello,

Please tell me how the white hair brushes were different than the brown hair ones, if they were effective or a gimmick, and when they stopped offering them as additional attachments.

Also, did the holder styles and colors ever change like those of the other tools? My Model G manual shows ones that look like they were from the Model XXX.


Post# 265593 , Reply# 1   1/31/2014 at 17:44 (3,729 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

Bottom view:

Post# 265594 , Reply# 2   1/31/2014 at 17:46 (3,729 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

Another question...were the wall brushes always friction-fit, or did later ones have wand locks?

Post# 265601 , Reply# 3   1/31/2014 at 18:58 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Let me answer the second question first.

 

I believe the first locking mechanism for the rug/floor tool came with the model E when the attachments went through a complete makeover.  Here I defer to my friend Charles Richard Lester to answer that correctly.

 

 As for the white bristle wall and dusting brushes, these were introduced with the last years of the model XXX, and were designed for the delicate jobs like fine wallpaper, silk lampshades and other things. Yes, technically, they were gimmicks, as were countless other items used by both Electrolux and other companies, like Kirby's Handi-Butler for example. However, in the case of Electrolux, the buyer had the option to accept, or reject buying these. To give you a better idea, here's how the sale went. After the demo, the salesman said that the entire package, vacuum cleaner, cord winder, tool holder, power polisher, garment bag, spray gun, and so on including the chemicals like floor wax, polishes, and moth crystals were available for a price of---, and quoted the cost. Lets say the customer didn't want the power polisher, it was deducted. Some people bought it all, some bought only the vacuum cleaner hose, wands, and standard tools. This continued with the model LX/LXI.

 

If you have any further questions on the early models, please feel free to ask me.

 

Alex Taber


Post# 265603 , Reply# 4   1/31/2014 at 19:05 (3,729 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks for the info Alex. The strategy makes sense from a business perspective. I was curious about how the white brushes were different than the brown--were they a different animal hair which made them softer or something? Sorry, but I'm a city slicker and unfamiliar with animal hair differences.

So they don't still offer the white hair brushes as options?


Post# 265604 , Reply# 5   1/31/2014 at 19:26 (3,729 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I would think the white brushes would be handy to know they were clean before you used them on light walls, wallpaper or lampshades, this makes sense to me.

Post# 265605 , Reply# 6   1/31/2014 at 19:29 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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No problem, I love answering questions.

 

As far as I know the white bristle brushers were softer. I have a set of both and can't really tell, but DO used the dusting brush for lampshades, and the other dusting brush for the coffee table and so on. As for the white wall brush, the bristles are longer than those of the floor brush. As I have hardwood floors, it's great for that too.

 

Give me a few minutes to scan the instruction book and you can read what the Electrolux Corporation had to say on the matter.

 


Post# 265608 , Reply# 7   1/31/2014 at 19:39 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Have a look at this.


Post# 265610 , Reply# 8   1/31/2014 at 19:45 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Here was the complete package. The buyer had the option to deduct the items they did not want or need. The long, flat thing in front of the white bristle wall brush was the 'Tufter' designed for certain types of rugs.


Post# 265611 , Reply# 9   1/31/2014 at 19:53 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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3 more pages from the book.


Post# 265612 , Reply# 10   1/31/2014 at 19:53 (3,729 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Cool! Thanks for posting that Alex. What is the copyright of that pamphlet? I'll have to see if I can get one on eBay sometime.

Post# 265613 , Reply# 11   1/31/2014 at 19:54 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Next page.


Post# 265614 , Reply# 12   1/31/2014 at 19:56 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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The cover of this book is very impressive.


Post# 265617 , Reply# 13   1/31/2014 at 20:07 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin

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You don't have to go to eBay, you can get it now. Simply go to the homepage of Vacuumland, click on 'Manuals and literature' click on Vacuum cleaners, go to Electrolux and there's the book, ready to download.

 

Have fun reading this one, I think it's the best of all the Electrolux manuals.


Post# 265620 , Reply# 14   1/31/2014 at 20:21 (3,729 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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The bristles on the white-bristle floor and dusting tools are longer and somewhat softer than the standard brushes.

The same metal friction fit housings for the white-bristle tools were used until the model G when a new style of plastic housing with a spring-loaded neck was introduced. The white dusting brush housing was white plastic.

From the Model G on, you could also get optional bare-floor brushes with the same construction as the white-bristle wall brush. I actually like this attachment better than the reversible floor-rug tool because it's lighter and somewhat narrower. Sometime later, this bare-floor-only brush became the standard attachment and you had to pay (a lot!) extra for the combination floor-rug attachment.

You could also get an optional dusting brush that was just like the XXX/LX brush except that the housing was gray plastic instead of metal.

The first combination rug-floor tool with the spring-loaded neck came out with the E-Automatic in 1956.



Post# 265621 , Reply# 15   1/31/2014 at 20:27 (3,729 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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That long white bristle wall brush seems very use full!

Post# 265623 , Reply# 16   1/31/2014 at 21:10 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Thank you Charles Richard.

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While I've had several copies of the model LX instruction book, they either fell apart or got packed away. Last September, I bought a box of tools, and hoses from Charles Richard. To my surprise, he included the instruction book which I've used here. And for those who don't know it, Charles was the person who talked me out of dissolving the V.C.C.C. in the early 1990's due to lack of member participation. Then around 93, I started to burn-out writing/publishing the newsletter and turned that operation over to Charles. His Electrolux issue of winter 94/95 was awesome! (To say nothing of his Hoover issue a few months before).

 

And let me end this by saying that Charles and I share a love of the Electrolux model LX. His site Electrolux model LX Extravaganza is awesome, have a look.

 

Alex Taber.

 

 

 


Post# 265633 , Reply# 17   2/1/2014 at 00:40 (3,729 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Is this the correct color scheme for the 1205-era?

Underside of wall brush




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Post# 265635 , Reply# 18   2/1/2014 at 01:02 (3,729 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Top side of 1205? wall brush

Post# 265636 , Reply# 19   2/1/2014 at 01:10 (3,729 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Yes, the paint color of the brush holder underneath identifies it as 1205. The G version is the same but the brush holder was painted the same light turquoise color of the motor unit. And the standard-bristle brush is exactly the same as this one, well, except for the bristles!


Post# 265637 , Reply# 20   2/1/2014 at 01:14 (3,729 days old) by kenkart ()        
I may be wrong..

But I think the white bristles are nylon instead of horse hair.

Post# 265644 , Reply# 21   2/1/2014 at 01:59 (3,729 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Mmmmmm, I think the white bristles are too soft to be nylon. They really are very soft, especially the white dusting brush. I always thought Electrolux bleached horsehair bristles to make them white. Or, actually, I should say Fuller Brush --- who used to supply brush bristles to Electrolux. I don't know if they still do or not.



Post# 265678 , Reply# 22   2/1/2014 at 09:48 (3,729 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
white Elux brushes

Great attachments both then and now.But we might remember that then(50s &60s)homes were likely to be in neighborhoods with many coal funaces,more dirt and gravel roads and much less efficient filters on forced air furnaces.When it was time to spring clean there was dust and dirt on floors,furniture,walls,lamp shades and everything else.

Post# 265694 , Reply# 23   2/1/2014 at 12:58 (3,729 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks everyone for your replies--lots of good information!

Alex, Thanks for letting me know about downloading the LX manual. I'll check it out. I just discovered that I missed bidding on someone's 70 year collection of Electrolux manuals--from the '30s to the 00s. That would have been awesome!

Electrolux137, I appreciate your detailed information. I wonder if the white brush holders also came in gold with the 1205 J and 1401; and brown in the 1401-B (and down the line)?

Floor-a-matic, Thanks for inquiring about the 1205 brushes v. the Model G ones.

Rugsucker, Interesting points made about the differences between mid-century living and today with more modern conveniences.


Post# 265704 , Reply# 24   2/1/2014 at 14:39 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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You are most welcome, enjoy the model LX instruction book. I have a few other surprises for you once I remember which box of paperwork they are in.


Post# 265705 , Reply# 25   2/1/2014 at 14:42 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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I don't know if this is page 2 or page three, but the other one follows.


Post# 265706 , Reply# 26   2/1/2014 at 14:44 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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3 of 3.


Post# 265708 , Reply# 27   2/1/2014 at 14:46 (3,729 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Other things to follow later today or tomorrow, once I find them.

 

Alex Taber.


Post# 265709 , Reply# 28   2/1/2014 at 14:50 (3,729 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Wow! Very interesting Alex! Thanks again for the post.

I wonder if Aerus has its own "museum" of prototypes; or for that matter, if it has a museum of all its former and current models?

I know there's the Vacuum Museum in Missouri but just curious if Aerus is like its predecessor. Somewhere I read, though, that even Electrolux USA wasn't that familiar with its own history--maybe due to changes in leadership or the purging of old files at some point.


Post# 265721 , Reply# 29   2/1/2014 at 17:54 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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The museum in the St. Louis area, is run by my friend Tom Gasko.

 

Tom and I go back to 1993, which was a major turning point for the V.C.C.C. and for me. After both John Lucia and I busted our buns my for many years trying to get the membership to contribute, I finally,  gave up, and aside from doing the newsletter, tabled the club. Charles Richard Lester contacted me during this period and asked me to please keep it alive. On his suggestion I did, and shortly after that I got a call from Tom who knew of several people into vacuum cleaners, and that was the shot in the arm we needed.

 

In May of 93, Tom and his friends drove to my house with a van loaded with vacuum cleaners, and that was the turning point. From there, we had people who helped write stories, researched material, and got us noticed. Please understand, this was before the internet. There were no chat rooms, no eBay, nothing but word of mouth. The only publication was the V.D.T.A. Vacuum Dealers Trade Assoc., so we were still barely cutting the mustard.

 

It wasn't till I retired from the club in 95, to live my own life, that the changes happened, and when I returned in 04, WOW! there were over 100 members, and Charles had his Cyber museum up and running. If I remember correctly, Charles also ran our website, but I'll leave the history of that to him.  As for Tom's museum, I've not been there, but plan to in the near future, from what I hear it's fantastic.

 


Post# 265729 , Reply# 30   2/1/2014 at 18:51 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Here's a look the prototypes in the Electrolux museum circa 1954, and goes with the three page history of the canisters. The next few posts will be mind boggling.

 

Enjoy,

Alex Taber


Post# 265733 , Reply# 31   2/1/2014 at 19:13 (3,728 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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The Electrolux plant in Greenwich, Connecticut had many things on display, including the prototype machines seen above -- indeed, that is where those photos were taken. I was told (by an very reliable source) that when the plant closed in 1986, dumpsters full of stuff was thrown out and that's probably where the prototypes ended up. I know. Sad. Tragic. But such is the attitude of some companies toward their history and legacy.



Post# 265735 , Reply# 32   2/1/2014 at 19:26 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Here's a look at the prototype machines. This does not fit the scanner so I had to scan and rotate, it's the best I could do.


Post# 265781 , Reply# 33   2/2/2014 at 07:36 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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More from the Electrolux Museum.


Post# 265782 , Reply# 34   2/2/2014 at 07:40 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Here are a few tools, and special items you might like to look at.


Post# 265783 , Reply# 35   2/2/2014 at 08:08 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Sorry that this is so lopsided, but it's the best I could do. However, here are a few of the patents on the ejection system. Unfortunately there's no way to know which they are.


Post# 265784 , Reply# 36   2/2/2014 at 08:10 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Prototypes of the model LX we all know.


Post# 265786 , Reply# 37   2/2/2014 at 08:13 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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A few more special tools I thought you might like to see.


Post# 265788 , Reply# 38   2/2/2014 at 08:16 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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A few words from the Electrolux Corp. I thought you'd find interesting.


Post# 265792 , Reply# 39   2/2/2014 at 08:29 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Thank you Charles Richard.

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I've had these pages for years, and scanned them last October, but when I got my new computer, somehow they didn't make it to the flash drive. Rather than dig through boxes, I used the copy you sent my for my birthday. I had to fold a bit to get these pages to fit the scanner. (No, I would not cut them to size!), thus a few are very lopsided, but I don't think Kevin will mind!

 

Bob Alex Taber.


Post# 265793 , Reply# 40   2/2/2014 at 08:32 (3,728 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Experimental

Electrolux better pics. From my Father's info


Post# 265795 , Reply# 41   2/2/2014 at 08:42 (3,728 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Maybe this

is a better shot of your first page. Experimental cleaners at Ekman Center.

Post# 265796 , Reply# 42   2/2/2014 at 08:47 (3,728 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Why the

dumpster and not a museum? Look at all the concept cars that have been canned so to speak and never seen again, same thought by manufacturers.At least that is my thought.

Post# 265798 , Reply# 43   2/2/2014 at 09:40 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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Here are two more posts from a page I just found.


Post# 265799 , Reply# 44   2/2/2014 at 09:42 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi Kevin.

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And the last.


Post# 265801 , Reply# 45   2/2/2014 at 09:47 (3,728 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi tig21er.

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That is fantastic, thank you for making it a lot clearer. As I'm 63 years old, I'm not computer savvy, and scanning is a real chore for me. If you want to work your magic with the pictures of the prototype tools, you have my full permission. 

 

Alex Taber.  


Post# 265825 , Reply# 46   2/2/2014 at 15:05 (3,728 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Electrolux Endurance

reports sorry for the tear. Super J.

Post# 265826 , Reply# 47   2/2/2014 at 15:08 (3,728 days old) by tig21er (Indiana)        
Enurance

O-1 and Upright

Post# 265829 , Reply# 48   2/2/2014 at 15:15 (3,728 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

Love all the history. I really enjoyed reading it all.

Post# 265849 , Reply# 49   2/2/2014 at 19:55 (3,727 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
Hey!

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The Kirby was only off by %6 against Electrolux!


Post# 265872 , Reply# 50   2/2/2014 at 22:53 (3,727 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        

hope you don't mind me spinning this around...

Post# 265942 , Reply# 51   2/3/2014 at 15:24 (3,727 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thanks for all the latest posts Alex, Tig21er, and Crevicetool. Lots of good information. Too bad that the old prototypes got tossed.

Maybe someone should pitch the Electrolux Museum idea to Aerus and see if they're interested in beginning a new museum. There may still be a few prototypes in people's basements and garages--you never know.


Post# 265963 , Reply# 52   2/3/2014 at 17:48 (3,726 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I wonder why no one saved whatever came from the Old Greenwich Electrolux factory like when the North Canton Hoover factory closed?


Post# 265974 , Reply# 53   2/3/2014 at 18:08 (3,726 days old) by electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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The plant closed in 1986 when there was no active Vacuum Cleaner Collectors Club. This was also long before the Internet and PCs became standard fixtures in homes and businesses so getting word out to collectors (that no one knew existed!) would have been impossible at best.

I imagine some of the employees may have taken souvenirs with them but trying to track down any of them would also be a huge and difficult task.

What's gone is gone.



Post# 265977 , Reply# 54   2/3/2014 at 18:13 (3,726 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
Hi floor_ o_ matic.

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As a historian, that was my biggest problem, getting vacuum cleaner companies to answer my questions. In response to my letter in 1979, Charlie McKee of Electrolux told me in a letter "we don't care about ore past!" So when Electrolux closed the factory, to them, these machines were nothing more than old bits of junk, thus food for a dumpster. It stinks, but that was the way it was back then. And most vacuum cleaner companies, and vacuum cleaner stores saw no value in the 'old stuff.'  


Post# 269521 , Reply# 55   2/26/2014 at 18:22 (3,703 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

For what model would this white dusting brush be? I'm guessing the 1205 J and 1401.

Post# 269550 , Reply# 56   2/26/2014 at 23:15 (3,703 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
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Since it's a gold and white box, I'd say Super J. I sold the 1205, and the packaging was the same color as the machine. That looks like the same gold as the J.

 

In the early days, the white dust brush and wall brush had the same metal as the standard tools. Except for the war years when it was dark blue plastic.

 

Alex Taber.

 

 

 

 


Post# 269729 , Reply# 57   2/28/2014 at 16:22 (3,701 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Thank you, Alex, for the information. I suspected that it might be either a Golden J/1205 J or a Super J/1401 because of the white casing and bumper along with the gold-colored highlights on the box. Thanks also for posting a pic of your LX with its white-haired dusting brush.

Post# 273193 , Reply# 58   3/23/2014 at 20:25 (3,678 days old) by Kevin (Livonia)        

Model XXX Era White brushes w/boxes:

Post# 278944 , Reply# 59   5/1/2014 at 17:04 (3,639 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Model ?? White Dusting Brush Top:

Post# 278945 , Reply# 60   5/1/2014 at 17:04 (3,639 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Model ?? White Dusting Brush Bottom:

Post# 278946 , Reply# 61   5/1/2014 at 17:05 (3,639 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Model ?? White Dusting Brush Box:

Post# 278947 , Reply# 62   5/1/2014 at 17:06 (3,639 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        

Model ?? White Dusting Brush and Box (all pics from eBay listing):

Post# 310915 , Reply# 63   1/4/2015 at 21:23 (3,391 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        
Model S White Wall Brush

According to the blue-gray brush plate which matches the blue-gray Model S, here is the companion white wall brush (old eBay photo):

Post# 310917 , Reply# 64   1/4/2015 at 21:28 (3,391 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        
Early Model G White Wall Brush

The early Model Gs companion white wall brush had the classic metal holder with the aqua brush plate (circa 1960-64). Later ones had the plastic holder with the teal trim (as stated in reply #19):

Post# 310918 , Reply# 65   1/4/2015 at 21:39 (3,391 days old) by kevin (Livonia)        
Teal 1205 & Model L w/Matching Brush Plate

Here's another photo of the one in reply #17. I do wonder if the teal Model 1205 paint was identical to that of the teal Model L (although it doesn't appear so to me--the 1205 looks metallic). In that case, I would call this a teal Model L version.

To my knowledge the Model 1401/Super J version with the gold brush plate was the last white wall brush Electrolux made (1975-78)--going by the manual. Interestingly, the same ivory holder with teal bumper that came out with the late aqua Model Gs was used. I have not read an Olympia One manual to confirm that the white wall brushes had been discontinued at that time (nor have I seen a white wall brush with a brown brush plate). Of course, branches could carried old stock after 1978.



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