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Post# 265178   1/29/2014 at 10:12 (3,732 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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An article regarding 3 vacuum collectors - some recognisable people here.

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Post# 265180 , Reply# 1   1/29/2014 at 10:26 (3,732 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Can't believe the ignorance in the comments box.

Post# 265183 , Reply# 2   1/29/2014 at 10:48 (3,732 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Can't believe the ignorance in the comments box

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Ditto. I'm waiting until I get home before I start replying to a few of those narrow minded, uppity arseholes.

Typical Daily Mail readers.

Having said that, I don't think the article did us any favours. It makes vacuum collectors look like a freakshow. I'm sure none of the 3 people featured in the article are in anyway strange or weird, but in true british press style, they've latched onto 1 passing comment or tiny detail and blown it all out of proportion.

Typical Daily Mail.


Post# 265184 , Reply# 3   1/29/2014 at 10:52 (3,732 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Like one says 'They probably don't know how to use one' & that 'He looks as if he's about to have sex with all of his hoovers'

Honestly, do people really have to be so ignorant?


Post# 265186 , Reply# 4   1/29/2014 at 10:53 (3,732 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

They're all snobs, the lot of them (dailymail readers). It also dosent help that it's under the 'femail' section.

Post# 265190 , Reply# 5   1/29/2014 at 11:59 (3,732 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The Daily Fail is always the same - full of Essex boys and Essex girl readers comments, and rude ones at that.

So what if we have strange habits like collecting vacuums?

Its a pity there is no one from the UK there - I thought maybe Sebo_fan, or Kirbymodel2C may have featured?

 

304 vacs? John Long (Gottahaveahoove) has more than that lol.  Speaking of John, what happened to him? he hasn't been on for ages?

 

 


Post# 265196 , Reply# 6   1/29/2014 at 13:16 (3,732 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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Before I even clicked on the link I knew the comments section was going to be intresting!

Clash of the Collectors, tonight at 9.30pm on National Geographic - will deffo Sky+ it.


Post# 265202 , Reply# 7   1/29/2014 at 14:01 (3,732 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        

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To be honest vacuum collecting is strange/weird not to us, but when someone who has no interest reads that some people are obsessed and that people have them crammed into there homes they're not really showing us in a good light so how do you expect positive comments, yes people will make joke the most famous being that I receive sexual favours off my henry but oh well

Post# 265205 , Reply# 8   1/29/2014 at 14:09 (3,732 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Michael, I completely disagree. I think the kind of people who make those jokes are....well...Daily Mail readers. Narrow minded, ignorant people. Lots and lots of people collect many MANY different things - stamps, books, records, china, jewelry, clothes, cars, bikes, shoes, photographs, dead insects. Why is our hobby any different from those?

Post# 265206 , Reply# 9   1/29/2014 at 14:13 (3,732 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Sometimes I wonder if I am reading the same forum as some of you.

Post# 265214 , Reply# 10   1/29/2014 at 15:22 (3,732 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

Why?

Post# 265216 , Reply# 11   1/29/2014 at 15:27 (3,732 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Why?

Because when it gets nasty on here, a few of you really know how to go for it. The comments on that Daily Mail website are no less mature or spiteful as some of what I have seen on here. We had a saying back in my day. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Post# 265217 , Reply# 12   1/29/2014 at 15:34 (3,732 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I think it is safe to say which side of the fence the Daily Mail and their readers are on!!

Post# 265219 , Reply# 13   1/29/2014 at 15:38 (3,732 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 ()        

And which one is that jmurray01?

Post# 265220 , Reply# 14   1/29/2014 at 15:40 (3,732 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
Why is our hobby any different from those?

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it isn't but you cant say that it is normal to have 300 vacuum cleaners which take over your home, not everyone collects something, and yes I think it is strange even though I am the one who does it I've learned not to question it as much, its NOT normal to have vacuums taking over your house I dont understand why you are trying to make out it is

Post# 265221 , Reply# 15   1/29/2014 at 15:48 (3,732 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

"I dont understand why you are trying to make out it is". Presumably because it is an opportunity to get offended about something.

Post# 265223 , Reply# 16   1/29/2014 at 16:01 (3,732 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

ANYWAY

Anyone watching this? Some enviable machines out there!


Post# 265226 , Reply# 17   1/29/2014 at 16:16 (3,731 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I don't know why you all care so much as long as you are happy and ot is not taking over your life then do it and don't let anyone get in the way of that.


Post# 265236 , Reply# 18   1/29/2014 at 16:44 (3,731 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
its NOT normal to have vacuums taking over your house

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so what IS "normal", Michael? I dare you to try and define it...

Post# 265239 , Reply# 19   1/29/2014 at 16:50 (3,731 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Normal is whatever you want it to be. It is not a word I use freely, but others do and then it often get takes out of context. Perhaps "usual" might have been a better choice of word. Either way, he makes a point. You know what people are like, you only have to see it on here, it is far more enjoyable to say something negative and offensive than it is otherwise. A few people commented on the Daily Mail article. I would hazard a guess that the 50-odd people who bothered to say anything at all were only a handful of the actual number of persons who read the story. Who knows what the others were thinking? Whatever it was, they kept it to themselves. I expect they were to busy to even care.

Post# 265242 , Reply# 20   1/29/2014 at 17:09 (3,731 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
normal

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conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected......, there is your answer, maybe I should of used a different word, it isnt normal or expected or typical stop trying to make out like it is

Post# 265243 , Reply# 21   1/29/2014 at 17:15 (3,731 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Not everyone is gay, does that make it not normal?

Post# 265244 , Reply# 22   1/29/2014 at 17:20 (3,731 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
being gay

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is far more common and widely accepted and is nothing like collecting vacuums

Post# 265312 , Reply# 23   1/30/2014 at 00:12 (3,731 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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Wow, those comments are something else lol hmmm i's have to say iv'e had one hell of a great life in my nearly 30 years (25 years collecting). i'm not a loaner sitting around at home playing with my vacuums. I travel, play with my cars, enjoy going out with friends of all walks of life, and much more lol
I am also lucky to be dating someone who thinks my hobby is really cool and she really shows an interest and it's not because I vacuum for her lol I actually don't, I let her do her own vacuuming. With all of my Pugs plus her Pugs together that's a lot of friggin vacuuming


Post# 265314 , Reply# 24   1/30/2014 at 00:20 (3,731 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Wow you know I can't believe how they twist what people say. After they finished filming I started to realize how much much they twist what you say into what they want you to say. They constantly were trying to stir up rivarly and get me to say other vacuum were rubbish. Truly sorry I took part in this.

Gareth

Oh and the Dog is our company Mascot, I still haven't seen the film


Post# 265317 , Reply# 25   1/30/2014 at 02:24 (3,731 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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That's sad Gareth that they have twisted your words but I'm not surprised I've yet to watch the documentary.

Just looking at the comments this morning I was expecting a lot more nasty ones but I don't think it's that bad, although CP0402's comments need reporting (I jest :p) Good work Chris!


Post# 265322 , Reply# 26   1/30/2014 at 03:13 (3,731 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Just reading what they wrote , IE My wife said I sleep with a vacuum under my arm ?? No she didn't but they would ask us to say something and then say , thats good but why not say it like this. I refused to say many things,

IE I love dyson Vacuums and they were trying to get me to say that other collecters don't like dyson this is because they are stuck in the past and things like that. What has been worrying me is how they edit things together.

My wife said its on TV tonight and I actually don't want o watch it.


Post# 265325 , Reply# 27   1/30/2014 at 04:29 (3,731 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

As a vacuum collector I collect OTHER objects besides vacuums-lets see-various types of LED and HID lamps,Guns,ammo,Movie banners and posters,maps,books,food waste disposers,info on trash trucks(I would collect those too if I had the space,money and a commercial driving license)sewing machinesI could think of other things-yes small appliances such as mixers,food processors and blenders.The commentors on that link are the strange ones.Oh yes,samll collection of lawn mowers,info on compactors.

Post# 265332 , Reply# 28   1/30/2014 at 06:25 (3,731 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
CP0402's comments need reporting

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HA! Quiet you ;).

Gareth, it doesn't suprise me about them twisting your words. I was speaking with James Brown not so long ago who recently featured in a channel 5 documentary about collecting - he said exactly the same thing. They were trying to get him to say certain things in a certain way so that they could twist this and use it to their advantage.


Post# 265338 , Reply# 29   1/30/2014 at 06:40 (3,731 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Benny and Michael..

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I don't see collecting vacuums as being particularly "weird". Unusual is a good word for it, as Benny pointed out.

I'm not getting insulted, Benny. Just challenging why some people have an ideal of what "normal" is. Based on Michael's description of "normal" posted above, I don't know anyone who fits under that. EVERYONE has something about them that makes them unique or unusual and I would challenge anyone here to find someone who doesn't. So surely by the logic of "normal", if everyone has something about them that makes them different/unusual/unique, then surely being "weird" IS "normal"?

A friend of mines Mum always used to say "everybody is weird. Normal doesn't exist - it's just a setting on a tumble dryer"


Post# 265339 , Reply# 30   1/30/2014 at 06:53 (3,731 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas)        

I also have yet to actually see the program, and I am indeed a bid scared of how they may have twisted around some of the things I said. They also constantly tried to twist what I said during filming and there were things I had to refuse to say or do. God knows how they edited it.

Scott


Post# 265351 , Reply# 31   1/30/2014 at 08:21 (3,731 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        

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I've just watched it and they made out like the vacuums ruled your lives a bit sad really as I can guarantee they dont



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Post# 265352 , Reply# 32   1/30/2014 at 08:25 (3,731 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Hey Scott

Stuck in the same boat. I have an added problem that I represent the service dep for a major vacuum brand if if it comes accross that I say any thing detrimental I can get into a heap of trouble.

I found the filming to be exhausting a some times when its late you just gave in and said what they wanted to get them too go home.

They Kept making it out that I had rented a warehouse to store my massive vacuum collection which was not true. I stored it at my shop were we filmed.

I told them straight that I would make a huge fuss if I found they had twisted my words, and with multi media been what it is today it will be easy. I was told to say other brands are rubbish.

I don't know why they couldn't just film us been us instead of trying to create drama it and blatantly lie about various aspects.

I even had to make my workshop look messy to fit in with there idea's. I decided that once this has shown then I will post pics on here about how things actually are.

This has really opened my eyes up to Reality TV and how most of it is fake.


Post# 265374 , Reply# 33   1/30/2014 at 11:09 (3,731 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I watched the program today. I must say, Gary, Scott and Guido, you have very impressive collections.


Post# 265378 , Reply# 34   1/30/2014 at 11:21 (3,731 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)        
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The comments in that article were laden with a lack of consideration, but I was surprised they weren't even worse.

Post# 265431 , Reply# 35   1/30/2014 at 17:02 (3,730 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        
"And which one is that jmurray01?"

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Which fence or which side thereof? 

 

On both accounts, the fence whereby you are either tolerant or not, and the Daily Mail and its readers are not.


Post# 265438 , Reply# 36   1/30/2014 at 17:40 (3,730 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        
Size of collection

So at what point do you go from being a collector to being a hoarder?




Post# 265442 , Reply# 37   1/30/2014 at 17:45 (3,730 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)        

Regarding my question, perhaps I should have said at what point does your collection become more of a burden than an enjoyment? In my experience part of the joy of collecting is keeping the size manageable by occasionally culling the herd.


Post# 265485 , Reply# 38   1/30/2014 at 23:42 (3,730 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I think It only becomes Hoarding when you yourself have lost control and cannot manage your collection.

About a month after they filmed me I got Rid of many machines, My collection was more around the 500 mark but that included incomplete machines aswell. I have sold off most of the new ones and kept the valuable ( to me ) ones. Like Scott said for every one I get , I now get rid of a few, Some I just buy ( new ones ) to see how they work and run and then sell on once I have finished investigating.


Post# 265491 , Reply# 39   1/31/2014 at 00:44 (3,730 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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Well a hoarder is when you have 200 in boxes not seen in moths or even years lol Hi my name is Phill and i'm a hoarder lol. Let's have a huge mini meet and everyone take a box home.

Post# 265497 , Reply# 40   1/31/2014 at 03:56 (3,730 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Hoarding

Is when one cannot let go of anything, for all sorts of psychological reasons, with no signs of restoration or display or use of the things ever taking place. A collector tends to focus on only one or a small number of items and does spend time working on their project.

Post# 265503 , Reply# 41   1/31/2014 at 07:20 (3,730 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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Just watched the program, Immediately didn't like the fact it was turned into a competition, but I really should of gathered that from the title before I even watched it!

Scotts mum was so sweet! Very impressive collections all three of you!

Gareth maybe you should treat your wife to a hoilday! 😄


Post# 265505 , Reply# 42   1/31/2014 at 08:11 (3,730 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Is when one cannot let go of anything

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Spot on, Benny.

An old friends Mum was a compulsive hoarder. She would keep cut-outs from magazines, old TV guides, empty butter tubs, old clothes and shoes (even if she couldn't find the one of the shoes).

The family unfortunately had a house fire a lot of years ago and everything was lost. Ever since, she couldn't throw ANYTHING away. She had a whole bunch of old vacuums as well, actually, but they never got used as there wasn't any floorspace to vacuum.


Post# 265555 , Reply# 43   1/31/2014 at 13:57 (3,730 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Turbo500, it is a strange one is that, the fire, because people can go one of three main ways with fires, burglaries, floods, and so on & so forth; either they deal with it & move on, or else become obsessive hoarders, or go the other way into a state of remarkable liberation, realising that all which matters was life & that what was lost was only 'things'. I know a hoarder or too. If the hoarding was the only problem, things might be alright. But it usually isn't. It's whatever else comes with it too that makes it all so much worse. The constant need to acquire and hoard and yet dispense with the most precious thing of all in the process -one's own lifestyle and freedom to do as we please- is heart breaking. I don't think I will ever understand it.

Post# 265557 , Reply# 44   1/31/2014 at 14:14 (3,730 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Is there any where online this is available to watch>?

Post# 265650 , Reply# 45   2/1/2014 at 04:51 (3,729 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Ultra Performer

Hehe ya as I said they take things out of context, The reason we haven't been on holiday is we have been building a business( my wife actually said this but they edited it out ) that has taken allot of our time and Money. If you have ever started a business from scratch you will know what I mean. There is no breaks or weekends off you work all the time. This year will be the first time we will have a break soon.


Post# 265651 , Reply# 46   2/1/2014 at 05:05 (3,729 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        

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Post# 265652 , Reply# 47   2/1/2014 at 05:17 (3,729 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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This is what I was saying further up. They made us out to be complete freaks who were totally obsessed by vacuums our lives consumed by them. That is simply not True. I am a Happily Married man with two wonderful litle monsters( they take after their dad) I love to go for long drives with my family, I love pets I have allot, I am a avid gardener and grow my own vegetables, I Love woodwork and build allot of our furniture myself. I am an engineer who loves solving design faults.

But if you look at this I am a vacuum loving idiot who puts vacuums ahead of everything else in my life.

The day they came and did the first filming I realized this had little o do with them telling our story as much as it had to do with them creating drama and making Ratings. I actually called them that night and said I didn't want to do it any more as I didt like the way they portrayed it. Joanne talked me into it again saying that it was a once in a life time opportunity, That said she was pretty furious when she saw the film and how they had edited what she had said.


Post# 265658 , Reply# 48   2/1/2014 at 06:33 (3,729 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
Meh.

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It's the Daily Mail.

Who the hell cares. You're all better than that.

Move on.


Post# 265701 , Reply# 49   2/1/2014 at 14:27 (3,729 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I'm sorry you guys suffered that experience. When I'm filmed here at the Vacuum Cleaner Museum, they can't take things out of context. My collection is displayed to the public, and they are used for the engineers to learn and create even better vacuums. All the documentaries that have been filmed here have turned out beautiful. Perhaps because the machines are on display and are not in my home changes the perspective.

Post# 265720 , Reply# 50   2/1/2014 at 17:12 (3,728 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
This is exactly why

I stayed away from these people.



Post# 265789 , Reply# 51   2/2/2014 at 08:23 (3,728 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Personally I wouldn't have taken part either. There's one thing being a member of a forum and another to state or show off your collection nationally. I was at two minds whether to do the video test of that Hotpoint washing machine I took part in, never mind show off my vacuums.

You can only give some people benefit of the doubt, but when it comes to media, there's very little doubt that a lot of them will present you properly.



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