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Post# 261012   12/28/2013 at 07:03 (3,765 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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A lot of these cheap modern vacuums have truly sad performance i just saw a very good example of that yesterday and it just makes me think how much dirt are these vacuums leaving behind?
I sold my Rainbow D4 to an older couple yesterday. I believe their last vacuum was a Eureka maxima, as i saw one sitting out on their porch as i was bringing the rainbow in. I suggested that they give the rainbow a try to ensure everything was working. The man cleaned an area of about 20" by 20" and the water was just completely brown with a floating clump of dog hair on top. I told them they will want to change their water very often the first few times they use it. A few years back i was cleaning out a friend's apt before she moved.Her vacuum was a bagless Bissell Powerforce. I was using a shop vac attached to a homemade separator with a 16" hose and an electrolux PN-6 I had a basketball sized clump of hair and other dirt in the separator's bin (5 gallon bucket) along with about a cup or two, if i remember right, of sand. There was more than likely more in the bag of the shop vac that passed through the separator, but i hate to think what i could have brought out of that carpet with a better powerhead. On a side note i found a Panasonic upright with the triforce motor for about $4 |
Post# 261066 , Reply# 5   12/28/2013 at 20:57 (3,765 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Bobby,
I ran the power nozzle by creating an external pigtail for the hose it was actually an old kirby cord which i attached to short cord that had a standard 2 prong male connection and a female pin connection (like a power nozzle port) on the other side i attached to the hose using a series of rubber bands. I was using the shop vac as a sort of self built central vac at my old apartment. That's almost horrifying that you picked up that much filth with a straight suction machine and you know some made it past that separator so there's probably a little more material in that bag. Eric, Amazing isn't it? It's said that carpeting can hold up to 8x it's own weight in dirt. |
Post# 261069 , Reply# 7   12/28/2013 at 22:38 (3,765 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()   |   | |
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By the way, are you going to show us the Panasonic? Awesome find and great price! The new/current Panasonics are kind of disappointing, but I like their older stuff. |
Post# 261071 , Reply# 9   12/28/2013 at 23:42 (3,765 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()   |   | |
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Eric, that is freaky. I sneeze at work all the time and very seldom anywhere else... what nasty places LOL |
Post# 261077 , Reply# 10   12/29/2013 at 01:03 (3,765 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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EricAustin, do U use the 4-ply C bags or HEPA C bags in your Lux? U can fill up a Lux HEPA bag & still have plenty of airflow/suction left; & not an ounce of dust escapes a HEPA bag |
Post# 261105 , Reply# 11   12/29/2013 at 10:10 (3,764 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 261111 , Reply# 12   12/29/2013 at 12:43 (3,764 days old) by ericaustin (Dallas, TX)   |   | |
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I used the 4 ply paper C bags as that's what I had available at the time. I found a huge unopened package at a thrift store for $0.99. |
Post# 274570 , Reply# 15   4/2/2014 at 22:24 (3,670 days old) by Jaker15 (Meridian, ID)   |   | |
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That's why I stick with my Convertible! I filled up a bag cleaning my dad's GF's house, and it filled very quickly. I'd say that it does better than my Kirbys, but I might offend some people here.... ;) I do love my Kirbys, though. A few weeks ago I drug out my Electrolux LE and I cleaned my dad's truck. The turbo nozzle wasn't cutting it so I switched to a Kenmore Powermate Jr. I filled up a new C bag with all kinds of unspeakable nastiness. My dad's truck has never been cleaner. LOL. I also gave the LE a pretty good workout, too.
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Post# 274573 , Reply# 16   4/2/2014 at 22:47 (3,670 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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How can pure straight suction pull out so much dirt from carpet? I still can't forget the times when I filled up the TriStar's bags after vacing a small section of just ONE room!
Even my EXL TriStar outcleaned every other vac I own, including the CXL |
Post# 274585 , Reply# 17   4/3/2014 at 00:46 (3,670 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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It gets out a different type of dirt, you can go behind any revolving brush with a good straight suction machine and get a ton of fine dust. |
Post# 274591 , Reply# 18   4/3/2014 at 06:21 (3,669 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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But over my time off i figured i'd shampoo the carpets so i moved all the furniture and then wanting to see what it could do i took my DC-07 to it using slow strokes and this is what it captured. It probably would have gotten more but i did take my Riccar Radiance to the higher traffic area a few hours before.
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Post# 274593 , Reply# 19   4/3/2014 at 06:22 (3,669 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Im not really surprised that the suction only vacuum pulled out that much dirt - for a start the Bissell Sweep and Shark (Gtech in the UK) machines are cordless sweepers, so much of the time they'll only remove the top dirt you can see and the rest of the time move the rest of whatever dirt that comes out of the top pile, around.
I do agree that straight suction/suction only can pull out a lot more fine dirt but you also have to bear in mind that depending on whatever type of carpet you have, constant brush roll can damage the carpet you're cleaning. Last week I ended up washing a carpet with my Bissell upright, after a day when the carpet dried I realised that what my Hoover Slalom bagless upright was picking up were the loose tufts of carpet rather than actual dust. |
Post# 274594 , Reply# 20   4/3/2014 at 06:26 (3,669 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 274595 , Reply# 21   4/3/2014 at 06:29 (3,669 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Using a DYSON!
The last time I used a Dyson on carpets was when I put it to test against FANTOM! A DC07 vs Thunder, DC14 vs Furry.the Fantom (esp. The Thunder) WHOOPED both Dyson at deep, down dirt removal.I thought something was wrong with this Dyson I had JUST refurbished, how could this plastic fortune do so badly at what it was designed for, yet make it of the foreign assembly line! The Thunder' s bin FILLED with sand, dirt and the likes. Fantoms were made in Canada, too! |
Post# 274597 , Reply# 22   4/3/2014 at 06:47 (3,669 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 275743 , Reply# 24   4/11/2014 at 18:01 (3,661 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 275855 , Reply# 25   4/12/2014 at 09:45 (3,660 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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I have the Kenmore bagless. Love the purple color. I've used it quite a bit. The very small capacity is somewhat of a pain - prefer the Dyson DC39's capacity to the Kenmore. The Kenmore has a good power nozzle that works well on pet hair and an electric mini power nozzle that works great on the sofa.
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Post# 430564 , Reply# 27   8/24/2020 at 20:23 (1,334 days old) by ridgidwd0670 (se wood co ohio)   |   | |
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I used my Workshop WS0610VA (aka Ridgid WD0670) shop vac (always equipped with the Ridgid VF6000 HEPA pleated filter & Casa Vacuums HEPA bag [Ridgid VF3503 equivalent] for dry pick-up) with the 'utility nozzle' & it pulled up LOTS of fine dirt (carpet fresh?) before I re-vacuumed the carpeted floors with my Eureka Dial-A-Nap ESP
Had I used the Eureka ESP only or 1st instead of the Workshop shop vac I'd be using up lots of bags & belts; yet still dirt in the carpet (Yes I checked UNDER the carpet after vacing) |
Post# 430784 , Reply# 28   8/27/2020 at 17:18 (1,331 days old) by EurekaFanSquid (Sacramento, California)   |   | |
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