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Thread Number: 23229
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| Post# 260126 , Reply# 2 12/19/2013 at 11:01 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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It has been dropped down the flight of stone stairs that lead to the choir vestry - hence the stress marks in the plastic on the cyclone assembly - nothing actually broke on the machine!! 
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| Post# 260127 , Reply# 3 12/19/2013 at 11:02 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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The plastic on the brush housing is showing wear from constantly pivoting on the uneven floor surfaces 
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| Post# 260128 , Reply# 4 12/19/2013 at 11:03 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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The current sole plate is holding up well - its only been on around a year 
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| Post# 260129 , Reply# 5 12/19/2013 at 11:04 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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Edge cleaning bristles are long gone though! 
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| Post# 260130 , Reply# 6 12/19/2013 at 11:06 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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The filter was pretty clean when I went today (for their machine anyway)- I swapped it over for a clean one though and brought the one from the machine home to wash 
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| Post# 260131 , Reply# 7 12/19/2013 at 11:07 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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I also cleaned the brush roll down today. Again this is pretty clean for their machine - they really do manage to block it up at times!! 
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| Post# 260132 , Reply# 8 12/19/2013 at 11:10 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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So that's their DC07 - HEAVILY used but it soldiers on without any complaint. But they need a spare machine in case the DC07 was to break between weddings or something.... This is that spare machine! Their original DC01 is long gone - but I gave them this for emergencies 
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| Post# 260133 , Reply# 9 12/19/2013 at 11:12 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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This is the job the DC07 does.... takes a good few hours to vacuum properly and is done on a regular basis - after each wedding and funeral ect 
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| Post# 260134 , Reply# 10 12/19/2013 at 11:14 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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There is a lot of rough stone flooring and also really old wooden floor boards between the pews and things... the Dyson is used on everything. The stone does eventually wear the underside of the machine away - hence its needed a new sole plate in the time they've had it 
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| Post# 260136 , Reply# 12 12/19/2013 at 11:29 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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This is CLEAN for the filter on my machine - given the jobs it gets used for it is impossible to keep the filter clean - so it gets a wash when the suction has dropped and it starts moving the dirt around rather than sucking it up 
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| Post# 260137 , Reply# 13 12/19/2013 at 11:31 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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Handle is still showing evidence of the paint and plaster its sucked up... 
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| Post# 260138 , Reply# 14 12/19/2013 at 11:32 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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Brush roll is holding up well although the sole plate is starting to look sorry for itself 
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| Post# 260139 , Reply# 15 12/19/2013 at 11:33 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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Bottom of the motor housing is scuffed badly from it being regularly used outside for the cars 
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| Post# 260140 , Reply# 16 12/19/2013 at 11:36 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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And here it is working away hard in our loft after the new roof. When I'm not abusing it its living in our garden shed. Sadly I don't think the newer style ball machines would put up with the amount of use / abuse these two have had - although I'd like somebody to prove me wrong! 
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| Post# 260142 , Reply# 17 12/19/2013 at 11:46 (3,774 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire ) | ||
dyson's being used commercially
I used to use a dc33 for my mothers work, she works at a children's after school club so as you could imagine the corridor where the kids would play was not a pretty sight by he end of the night, but for about 2 years the dc33 was used everyday and didn't encounter any issue, I still have that dc33 but it never gets used now as I swapped it for my henry.
Another example I can think of was a dc14 was being used in my parents friends 3 story largish house with 3 men, 6 dogs and 7 cats, used everyday for nearly 8 years and didn't have any problems until it burned out in the beginning of this year, its filter only ever saw 1 wash so its quite a miracle really. Thats the thing which annoys me with not just dyson but allot of brands is that they dont advertise any of the mantience needed for there machines. | ||
| Post# 260181 , Reply# 19 12/19/2013 at 16:34 (3,774 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
vacuums 
The place where mum works had small fire the dyson dc07 saved the offce but dc07 did suffer :-(
Before the dyson dc07 the HOOVER turbopower2 from 1992 had no problems with it what so ever but motor went in 2009 :-( After dyson dc07 that lived one year it was 2010 it went down tip in 2011 such a same. But the boss brought her old dyson dc01 in 2011 but the dyson dateing sticker says 1996. The dyson bin gets full to max every room with paper clips soot and fluff all and all the dyson dc07 is very good vacuum and dyson dc04 I think the dc01 is brill others say different BUT every body is entitled to opinion hope you all have good night SORRY IF THIS DOES NOT MAKE sense please do not leave comments about spelling or grammar THANK YOU FOR READING | ||
| Post# 260185 , Reply# 20 12/19/2013 at 17:27 (3,774 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 260187 , Reply# 21 12/19/2013 at 17:56 (3,774 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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turbo 500 | ||
| Post# 260193 , Reply# 22 12/19/2013 at 19:14 (3,774 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI) | ||
We had a dc07 animal at our Church that looked just like the one posted above, but the sole plate had no wheels left, and the brushroll was worn down to stubs that didn't even come close to the carpet. The motor was suprisingly fine, but was getting quite loud. I had duct taped the hose, as it had split while cleaning the stairs, and I removed the exhaust filter, as it had completely clogged. If I remember right, the bottom release on the bin had broken, and about a month after I moved, it and several other vacuums were stolen.
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| Post# 260194 , Reply# 23 12/19/2013 at 19:15 (3,774 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 260198 , Reply# 25 12/19/2013 at 20:02 (3,774 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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Dustin - I'm thinking of removing the post motor HEPA filter from our churches machine. They do start to restrict airflow after a while and this impedes the suction. | ||
| Post# 260206 , Reply# 26 12/19/2013 at 21:48 (3,773 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
5 Year Warranty, | ||
| Post# 260208 , Reply# 27 12/19/2013 at 23:09 (3,773 days old) by dustin (Jackson, MI) | ||
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The only downside to removing the exhaust filter was that it made a loud machine even louder-ear splitting, deafening loud. I'm pretty sure the bearings were going bad though. Whoever stole it didn't get much- it was just plain worn out, and didn't really pick up anything as an upright. I used it with the hose for cleaning stairs- did fairly well at that.
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| Post# 260224 , Reply# 30 12/20/2013 at 07:01 (3,773 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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super-sweeper it should say on the rating sticker, like it said on my DC01, 20-04-97 | ||
| Post# 260233 , Reply# 31 12/20/2013 at 10:53 (3,773 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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This dating system was only on very early Dyson machines - the later models don't have it. | ||
| Post# 260240 , Reply# 33 12/20/2013 at 11:42 (3,773 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Replacement hose, cable, ducting, you name it, it's had it... 
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| Post# 260241 , Reply# 34 12/20/2013 at 11:44 (3,773 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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The muckiest part 
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| Post# 260243 , Reply# 35 12/20/2013 at 11:46 (3,773 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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The filter, completely black due to all the fine dust that it 'inhales' when cleaning up the car, cleaning other vacuums and that kinda stuff 
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| Post# 260244 , Reply# 36 12/20/2013 at 11:48 (3,773 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Still retains its original tools though! 
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| Post# 260254 , Reply# 37 12/20/2013 at 14:21 (3,773 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Oh by the way, I have the same Dyson DC07 as you- however I would NEVER use it for anything near what I use my DC04 for- as you can see, it's in very good condition! 
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| Post# 260256 , Reply# 38 12/20/2013 at 14:28 (3,773 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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Looks a tidy machine! Given I paid less than £10 for mine from Currys I throw as much abuse at it as I can! | ||
| Post# 260259 , Reply# 39 12/20/2013 at 15:08 (3,773 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Ah well, mine was free, so I can't complain... | ||
| Post# 260263 , Reply# 40 12/20/2013 at 17:19 (3,773 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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| Post# 260297 , Reply# 41 12/21/2013 at 04:27 (3,772 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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What happened there??? | ||
| Post# 260299 , Reply# 42 12/21/2013 at 05:23 (3,772 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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dyson | ||
| Post# 260320 , Reply# 45 12/21/2013 at 13:56 (3,772 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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commercial USE | ||
| Post# 260321 , Reply# 46 12/21/2013 at 14:00 (3,772 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
 In my opinion, a Numatic is 10x better than a Dyson in a commercial environment. Here's why:
1. A Dyson needs in filters cleaning, it's very rare that people will wash them while used in a commercial environment, as people don't really 'maintain' the vacuums as such.
2. A Dyson will go through belts and clutches and soleplates very quickly, these part wear out when used domestically, imagine what it's like when used commercially?
3. A Dyson is a lot less reliable than a Numatic, it's rare to see older Dysons last more than 10 years in a domestic environment, and it's even less with modern Dysons.
4. Numatics are very reliable, most last 15-25 years if used with bags.
5. The floortool on a Numatic will last longer than a soleplate on a Dyson.
6. How often do you see Numatics with burnt out motors? It's rare if it's been used bagged.
7. How often do you see Dysons with burnt out motors? Very often, in my experience.
That's just my opinion though!
~ Joe | ||
| Post# 260322 , Reply# 47 12/21/2013 at 14:21 (3,772 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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| Post# 260348 , Reply# 51 12/21/2013 at 18:13 (3,772 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
Not quite on the Dyson breaking down and owners buying another.
Lets not forget - Dysons are not cheap. The reason to why so many exist on the second hand market is simply because so many refurbs have been built and also because some owners are fed up of Dyson bits breaking off. There are five churches near me - and I've played organ in all of them. 1 out of 5 have two commercial upright bagged vacuums (NOT Sebo), another church has a Henry and an old SEBO BS36, another church has two Henry vacuums, another church has a Numatic James on its own and the last church in town has a Numatic "unbranded" grey commercial vacuum, based on the James design. All of them are commercially based vacuums. | ||
| Post# 260374 , Reply# 52 12/22/2013 at 03:34 (3,771 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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The church near me has.... A hoover junior and an old Electrolux canister.... But often, like you matt, people take their own vacuums. One person takes their Panasonic and one takes their SEBO X4 extra | ||
| Post# 260379 , Reply# 54 12/22/2013 at 06:36 (3,771 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 260383 , Reply# 55 12/22/2013 at 09:56 (3,771 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Matt, yes I have read this thread properly. In reply #44, you said:
And you also said:
Then I stated why a Numatic would stand up better than a Dyson, and also why a Numatic would be more cost effective.
Like you said yourself, if it wasn't for you cleaning the filters in that DC07, it wouldn't last a minute. Whereas with a Numatic, it's very very rare you have to wash the filter.
In reply #48 you said:
"I've never seen a DOMESTIC use machine from the DC04 onwards have an issue with a soleplate though."
You can't have seen many Dysons before then! I see them get damaged all the time. Cracks, splits, bits of plastic snapped off, you name it.
You also said:
It might not last very long, but I could guarantee it'll last longer than a Dyson soleplate.
I'm not saying that Dyson are crap compared to a Numatic, I'm saying a Numatic would be far better suited to a commercial environment compared to a Dyson which is a domestic machine. A modern Dyson wouldn't last 2 seconds. They're all cheap and flimsy now, the DC04 and DC07s are like tanks compared to the modern Dysons being made today.
But that's just my 2 pence.
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| Post# 260384 , Reply# 56 12/22/2013 at 10:03 (3,771 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Yes but a numatic would be far more boring to use in a place like that than a dyson :P | ||
| Post# 260488 , Reply# 59 12/23/2013 at 10:42 (3,770 days old) by ManchesterVacs (Manchester) | ||
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| Post# 260528 , Reply# 62 12/23/2013 at 17:27 (3,770 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 260531 , Reply# 63 12/23/2013 at 17:45 (3,770 days old) by madabouthoovers () | ||
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| Post# 260533 , Reply# 64 12/23/2013 at 17:59 (3,770 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 260535 , Reply# 65 12/23/2013 at 18:01 (3,770 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 260540 , Reply# 66 12/23/2013 at 18:18 (3,770 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Um, hate to say it, but if you're not willing to hear what others say Matt, then you shouldn't have created the post in the first place. This isn't a forum where you get to say what you want and that's the Be all and End all. Dyson only ever had one commercial upright on the market, the Constant Max - okay so you've proved that Dyson machines can be worked fairly badly - but they are not designed to be used in churches, let alone a "commercial environment"
I beg to differ - and I'm also older than you and have worked for far more cleaning companies than you - Infact I don't think I need to justify my opinion or warrant any justification for adding an opinion - because that's what others have offered too. Churches and areas with stone floors DO NOT use many plastic based uprights let alone cylinder vacuums with plastic sole plates on the basis that they scuff down far more than metal based floor heads. You can argue as much as you want - church vacuums in my experience last 8 to 10 years before replacement parts are required - that is excluding general consumables such as filters and bags. When they are used to clean in between pews, under the radiators, if applicable to pick up shavings from old kneelers (unless you're lucky to have a church who have an ever supplying fund to repair or buy new kneelers), stairs to the pulpit, altar, under the altar, even cleaning dust up high from stained glass windows and so forth - you need an agile vacuum that will get all the dirt. No wonder Numatic's Henry or old Vax/Electrolux/Hoover tubs are used - the long hoses and tubes get to the dirt. As for carpet cleaning, I've seen dirty fan Nilco uprights and hard box Nilco's used as well as a handful of SEBO BS36s. Why? Because they are generally quieter when usage is required in a church - they also have long cables built as standard (replaceable on the commercial versions) and the wear items are generally tested to last a lot longer than a domestic vacuum. Fair enough if your church uses a Dyson. Good for them even - but as a professional visiting musician - most of the vacuums I've seen all over Scotland AND England are not bagless. | ||
| Post# 260543 , Reply# 68 12/23/2013 at 18:39 (3,770 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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A reality check would not go amiss IF said vacuum was designed to work in a commercial establishment to begin with. Heavily abused vacuums are fine in a domestic scenario - churches are not domestic, in my experience.
I know, why don't I just create several posts on here to show: 1) How well a Kenwood Chef mixes cement. 2) How well a Hoover Senior works without a bag in place. 3) How well a Hoover Junior cleans hard floors - complete with original beater bar Rather than continously being sarcastic and rather silly, I'm sure you all have view points to the above. What's the difference of showing how well a Dyson stands up to use in a church? Is it silly? No, but it has provided a lot of discussion and a reality check is sometimes something that is "literally" brushed under the carpet if you are a collector. When church members are forced to bring in their own vacuums anyway - surely that says a lot of the lack of funds in place? | ||
| Post# 260544 , Reply# 69 12/23/2013 at 18:44 (3,770 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Sebo-fan, none of what I wrote was aimed at you. Your post was not there when I began mine, suggesting we posted at the same time. | ||
| Post# 260549 , Reply# 71 12/23/2013 at 19:53 (3,770 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Sorry Benny, wasn't getting at you personally. But what I say still stands. We can beg to differ which is the whole purpose of a forum, surely.
Steve - in my experience - flag stone or church marble really requires a wet and dry vacuum. There are plenty on the market, possibly helped by SEBO's new Disco floor polisher head for the Dart. However, a few years ago I was really taken with a church I visited near Letchworth & Hitchin. I couldn't believe that they got what they got when I laid eyes on it as I know it costs thousands to buy. I have mentioned it before here on Vacuumland, but I never saw one in real life - and I must say I was really AMAZED by it. It's a Karcher wet upright vacuum BR30/4. The church didn't have much carpet, mostly marble tile and other hard sealed surfaces, particularly for their creche at the back of the church and at the top by the altar. The church held coffee afterwards in the back of the church, so the floor was always getting dirty. | ||
| Post# 260551 , Reply# 73 12/23/2013 at 20:11 (3,770 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 260577 , Reply# 74 12/23/2013 at 22:23 (3,769 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 260609 , Reply# 76 12/24/2013 at 04:20 (3,769 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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I'm with Ryan on this. You can't expect to post something like this in a vacuum cleaner collectors forum and not get challenged on it.
I also agree that, were it not for Matt performing regular maintenance on the machine, it would would have been long gone by now. Whilst they may very well be made of solid plastic, the maintenance is far higher than that of a bagged commercial vacuum. | ||
| Post# 260610 , Reply# 77 12/24/2013 at 04:27 (3,769 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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It gets the filter washed every now and again and the brush roll cleaned. It's no different to having to change the bag on a bagged machine really is it? | ||
| Post# 260612 , Reply# 79 12/24/2013 at 04:51 (3,769 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.) | ||
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No design or vacuum is 'Perfect.' Having a perfect piece of design is impossible, because we're human. In a piece of design, say an AEC Routemaster bus, the design wasn't perfect, it didn't have a low-floor and had an engine at the front with a long transmission to the back axle, making it inefficient as time goes by. | ||
| Post# 260613 , Reply# 80 12/24/2013 at 04:51 (3,769 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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What to do on Christmas Eve... Last minute shopping? Present wrapping? No. Lets vacuum the garage instead. 
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| Post# 260614 , Reply# 81 12/24/2013 at 04:52 (3,769 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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Wood-shavings..,, 
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| Post# 260615 , Reply# 82 12/24/2013 at 04:54 (3,769 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK) | ||
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This is from one day of house, quick garage clean and cleaning that wood mess you saw before. 
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| Post# 260625 , Reply# 83 12/24/2013 at 06:59 (3,769 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
My parents Church a Huge 5000 seater uses two dc14's and a dc23. The church is used daily and included many offices large entrance ways, smaller meeting rooms its absolutely massive. The had two vorwerks that were forever breaking before buying the dysons. almost 3 years on now and they are going strong.
I know of a few builders that use dc14's as there final vacuum to remove the fine dust the shopvacs leave behind | ||
| Post# 260629 , Reply# 85 12/24/2013 at 08:31 (3,769 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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| Post# 260700 , Reply# 86 12/25/2013 at 00:55 (3,768 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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Just about any vacuum can be used in a commercial cleaning environment. The only real difference between a commercial vacuum and a domestic is Longevity.
Many domestic vacuums will easily out clean commercial ones too. I had a customer bring in her Sebo 370 wanting to know what was wrong with it.Her Daughter had come to stay for a few weeks and had brought her New Bissel pet eraser. She was horrified at what the Bissell pulled out of her carpet. I checked the Sebo and it was 100% probably one of the best condition sebo's I have ever seen. I told her that its just a case of the Bissell been much more powerful with a more aggressive brush roll. The only consolation for her is that the Bissell will last 2 -3 years and here Sebo 20 to 30 years. Commercial vacuums are designed to last. This means less powerful motors aswell. A domestic vacuum is designed to clean and make a good impression so they have massive motors high suction but may not last as long. I know in South Africa many company are shifting to using dysons to clean their offices and churches. The main reason is they are bagless. No commercial vacuum company makes a bagless vacuum here and they wont because they make to much money off the bags. I just tell the customers to clean the filters more often. The dc07 and 14 are the most popular when I put up a rebuilt dc07 for sale its quickly snapped up. When we started our cleaning company 10 years ago we bought a range of sebo's x1's , 370's 470's and Karcher. The cost of the bags was Horrendous. We had 25 machines and would go through 5 packs of bags a week @ $20.00 a pack. We quickly had closth bags made. Dry carpet cleaners have also switched over. One of my best friends owns a dry carpet cleaning company and he has been using 3 dysons for 4 years now no problems. what we did do though is convert them to the non clutch brush rolls as he prefers them. It all comes down to maintenance. look after it and it will last years no matter were you use it. | ||
| Post# 260709 , Reply# 87 12/25/2013 at 04:05 (3,768 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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"No commercial vacuum company makes a bagless vacuum here and they wont because they make to much money off the bags."
No, but rather for the fact that bagged is the way to go for best hygiene - otherwise hospitals would have to double their efforts for airborne quality. Dust bags aren't that expensive - its not as if the ones they sell for either the SEBO or Numatic ranges are expensive at trade prices. | ||
| Post# 260710 , Reply# 88 12/25/2013 at 04:36 (3,768 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 260712 , Reply# 89 12/25/2013 at 04:55 (3,768 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom) | ||
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I think the main fail with that dyson vs Bosch is the floor tool. Stick a better one on and I reckon it would do better. Doubt it would win though | ||
| Post# 260723 , Reply# 90 12/25/2013 at 10:02 (3,768 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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Yep I could do that comparison in my shop and make the bosch the Looser very easily. The problem with Utube vids is that its very easy to make the vacuum you want to win win and the vacuum you want to loose, loose badly. Been there done that.
I did that recently with a Miele and made it loose horribly after a customer showed me a Utube vid where the Miele outcleaned the dyson. I love showing customers this and have one of every model of my competition to aid in this. As for the vacuum bags $ 20.00 for a pack of 5 Thats to pricey for me. All the hospitals here in SA that are worth there salt have massive central systems with UM a cyclone on them. Infact I don't know when last I saw a Hospital with a normal vacuum in it. | ||
| Post# 260768 , Reply# 91 12/25/2013 at 16:02 (3,768 days old) by matt8808 (Teesside - North East - UK) | ||
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gsheen ahhh somebody that talks sense!! | ||
| Post# 260783 , Reply# 93 12/25/2013 at 19:40 (3,768 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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$20-00 is equivalent to roughly £12. For that you get double the amount of SEBO bags for the commercial BS36 series - 10 bags to you, compared to the 5 you quote - and that's taken from a Trader company AFTER VAT has been added. Numatic are even cheaper in some cases £5-95 which is half of U.S $20-00 gets you 10 bags for the Numatic.
Whilst SOME hospitals depend on wet cleaning to get rid of dust, several hospitals and department stores that have vinyl mix floors use a mix of dry polisher machines and some that have the combo suction bags on them to pick up dust. Other departments use Henry vacuums or more expensive commercial tub vacuums with even more elevated costs on dust bags, that aren't as mass available to buy such as Numatic or SEBO. My point in all of this is, it doesn't really matter that much that dust bags have to be purchased in lieu of a bagless vacuum - after all - lets face it - if Dyson offered a much better built vacuum designed for commercial usage, I bet the sole plate wouldn't be so easy to scratch let alone have obvious external wear parts that wouldn't scuff or shatter that easily. Matt - have you tried trundling your Hoover TP model up and down the stone flagstones of that church? See how long that lasts. | ||
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