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Post# 257804   11/28/2013 at 11:19 (3,773 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)   |   | |
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A friend brought these to my attention the other day, marketed as the perfect partner for your Gtech Airram. They look pretty good, I'm pretty impressed with Gtech products. Just a pitty there is no turbo tool.
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Post# 257829 , Reply# 1   11/28/2013 at 14:44 (3,773 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Looks a great hand held vacuum cleaner! Least the owners of AirRam will be pleased there is a hand held to accompany it! One reason why I didn't buy one as no attachments but might get one of these Multi! Agree no turbo tool!
Probably they might extend the range to compete with the Dyson Digital Slim and offer a floor/turbo tool attached to a wand! Battery power is longer! I see they are offering a free extension wand for the Multi if purchased direct with Gtech! I know a few people say the AirRam doesn't cope work well on think carpet/rugs! I'm sure there will be new versions of the AirRam and Multi in years to come!! |
Post# 257861 , Reply# 2   11/29/2013 at 02:20 (3,773 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 257900 , Reply# 3   11/29/2013 at 15:09 (3,772 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 257902 , Reply# 4   11/29/2013 at 15:19 (3,772 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)   |   | |
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Thanks for the info Paul I hadn't seen this, I wonder if there is a big messy filter under that green shroud and is it going to need frequent filter maintenance? I think they should have included a longer extension tube and a floor head to make this more versatile but they seem to be marketing this as an addition to the AirRam. I'm not Dyson fan but if I got this I think I'd always be thinking I went for the understudy to the Dyson cordless :s It may be cheaper but if you got the AirRam and this then you could get the latest Dyson cordless!
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Post# 257903 , Reply# 5   11/29/2013 at 15:33 (3,772 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 257904 , Reply# 6   11/29/2013 at 15:37 (3,772 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Very true ultraperformer
For both Gtech Products you could get the Dyson DC59 but then you have to consider buying from Gtech direct as at present are selling the 2 models at a discounted price saving £50.00 plus including the extension wand for free as this is not included normally plus you get longer run times than the Dyson. Or you go for the Dyson having versatile cleaning in one unit with powerful cleaning performance and light weight and better filtration but runtime is not very long! Plus you could add additional cleaning tools to the unit. |
Post# 257905 , Reply# 7   11/29/2013 at 15:55 (3,772 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)   |   | |
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Post# 257907 , Reply# 9   11/29/2013 at 16:05 (3,772 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Thank you, thats very true taking up more space. Same argument some Dyson owners are highlighting with the Dyson Hard and the other Digital Slims, you cant use the hard tool on the other machines (due to pressure applied using the hard tool) and you can not add the turbo floor tool to the Hard (wand has not power connectors). Again wanting you to buy both!
To be honest I wouldn't either, there is still a long way to go before batter powered vacuums will replace mains powered ones! |
Post# 257908 , Reply# 10   11/29/2013 at 16:22 (3,772 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)   |   | |
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Steve I completely agree with what you said I can't understand what the fuss about it is either. Jon I hope to get that Dyson Hard tool to fit on my DC38 I believe its the standard click fit connection? We have mainly hard floors and it would be really handy plus the wand on the DC38 seems very sturdy.
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Post# 257909 , Reply# 11   11/29/2013 at 16:28 (3,772 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)   |   | |
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Post# 257911 , Reply# 13   11/29/2013 at 16:39 (3,772 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Let me know if you do and how you get on with it. Yes I believe it is the standard click fit. I would like something to use daily instead of a mains vacuum.
I did consider the Dyson Hard as I have some hard floors but carpets elsewhere. Shame it doesn't come with a floor tool to use on carpets! Will you use Dyson wipes (£4.99 for x12 looking at the website on offer at mo for £4.24!!) or some other ones? |
Post# 257915 , Reply# 14   11/29/2013 at 17:33 (3,772 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)   |   | |
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Post# 257918 , Reply# 15   11/29/2013 at 17:46 (3,772 days old) by madaboutsebo (Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 257922 , Reply# 16   11/29/2013 at 19:50 (3,772 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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The Gadget show link that Adam provided on the other thread shows an independent test of quite a few stick vacuums and Dyson's hand held. In it you can see that the Dyson is pretty good with the pick up of just about everything in the first test.
Surprisingly a lot of other cordless stick vacs fail to pick up anything in a major way, including that AEG stick vacuum. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK |
Post# 257958 , Reply# 17   11/30/2013 at 09:19 (3,771 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)   |   | |
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Post# 257963 , Reply# 18   11/30/2013 at 10:58 (3,771 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 257978 , Reply# 19   11/30/2013 at 13:52 (3,771 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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The Gtech Air ram has 4 AW and lost when Dyson compared it to the DC59 |
Post# 257993 , Reply# 20   11/30/2013 at 15:03 (3,771 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Don't mind the power of such a cleaner, whereas it's Air-Watts or Amps, It's all in the design. Modern cleaners NEED those full 12 amp, or 2000 Watt motors to FORCE dirt thru all those tight turns and bends. Whereas an elder cleaner, take for example a Hoover Convertible or a KIRBY can deliver twice the power for half the power! My little old 1940s General-Electric upright only runs on 300 WATTS, For a full-size upright!
I don't see why fuss over some $400 vacuum when a $5 Garage Sale ElectrikBroom will outlive and outperform that Dyson Ten-Fold. Especially that new mopping thing! Great Job, Dyson! You've invented a $500 Swiffer! |
Post# 257994 , Reply# 21   11/30/2013 at 15:07 (3,771 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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I wish you could try a DC04, you would love Dyson if not that particular model |
Post# 257997 , Reply# 22   11/30/2013 at 15:14 (3,771 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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We didn't get Dyson period until the DC07. Everyone loved the former big name in Bagless, Fantom. Speaking of, has anyone seen their new Dyson commercial airing about on Television? Here's what they state:
Only cleaner to have... "Self-Adjusting cleaner head"- Wrong! Budget-End Hoover Elites, along with other Budget cleaners all had that before Dyson was even a thing. Canister Carpet nozzles "automatically" adjust, Too. "Easy built-in Wand"- Fantom invented it. I say that because of, in the late 1980s, IONA, the parent compant of Fantom Technologies, began to build commercial machines labeled, "Vectron", for S C Johnson Wax. They did license Jame's Dual-Cyclonic technology, But I don't Dyson had even thought of such a unique handle design. If anyone can prove me else wise, please do so.
They said some other Rubbish, but that escapes my mind for the time being. |
Post# 258011 , Reply# 24   11/30/2013 at 16:38 (3,771 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Which is why the US got the DC02 but renamed the Fantom lightning or something like that. |
Post# 258062 , Reply# 28   12/1/2013 at 03:17 (3,771 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 258070 , Reply# 30   12/1/2013 at 05:29 (3,771 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)   |   | |
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From what I can see GTech first offerings were the cordless sweepers - a quick and easy way to sweep up crumbs between vacuuming.
At least GTech have realised their machines capability and added an extra machine making other jobs achievable and far easier. Easier because one didnt have to drag out a heavy vac, plug it in and have the restrictions of a power cord. I think the evolution of the AR has come from those who have bought the sweeper and not used their regular vac very often after, a bit to the detriment of their carpets cleanliness. Thing is because the SWV sweepers are so light and do a great job of surface cleaning I think once you have owned one dragging out a vac has become a bit of a pain for regular people. I know I feel that way myself. I used to get the big vacs out everyday just to run around and pick up a few crumbs, cat hair and cat litter. It does become a pain getting it out, unwinding the cord, pushing it around, winding the cord back up and putting it away. My AirRam turns this 10 minute job into a 3 minute one with very little effort. Where the AirRam has evolved from the SWV's is that they do pull dust and grit out of the carpet with the suction they also provide ontop of the surface litter brushing action. If we really want to be critical of the AIRRam then the following points need to be taken into account about the Dyson. 1, the dyson was originally a handheld vac and the addition of the long tube and floorhead makes it a heavy vac to use due to its top heavy and high centre of gravity. Gtechs AR gravity centre is lower and much easier to use. 2, dyson seem to spend alot of time bleating about its use on hardfloors yet they dont mention half as much of its performance on carpets if any. I wonder why? 3, Usage time, GTech wins there! 4, the AR's handle is easier to hold than the dysons. It means the user hasnt got the weight of most of it in their hands and the bulky unit in your hands may well restrict where you direct the cleaner in tight spaces around between beds and walls etc. 5, no cloud dust when emptying! 6, the AR's brushroll is better suited to carpet cleaning when all said and done. 7, the AR ram purpose designed. All dyson have done is add extras onto an unwieldy ready made design with little thought to the actual use. At least GTech have realised their machines capability and added an extra machine making other jobs achievable and far easier. I disagree the AR is only capable of floor cleaning. I have done the stairs with it, sofa cushions, car boots, car seats, bathroom mats, cat bedding. Dyson has some serious competition out there, about time too. |
Post# 258075 , Reply# 31   12/1/2013 at 07:26 (3,770 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Very good points TM
The other aspect is that whilst Dyson has that hand held vac with the added pole and floor head, so does my £40 Black and Decker corded hand vac. It offers more than the Dyson with its various tools and attachments, though it lacks a turbo brush (and smaller diameter tubes than 32mm means it is impossible to use a universal fit turbo brush) but it does have a blow facility handy for air mattresses. Thus, its a good all rounder a number of cleaning needs with a blow facility. Yet I've only used its basic hand vac design for many years in between using its specialised tools and been happy with its performance. It has a flatter body and easier to pivot into corners for picking dirt up. The one aspect that I dislike about the Dyson is the bin at the bottom. It looks like it would get in the way, forcing me to pull my hands upwards as I try and I direct the nozzle into an area where a flatter, "more old fashioned" dust buster design does the pick up better without hand strain. Largely then whilst there are so many other machines coming onto the market, at least the Air Ram is fit for purpose and as yet there isn't a similar rival in terms of what the Air Ram offers. |
Post# 258137 , Reply# 32   12/1/2013 at 18:21 (3,770 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Dyson does get credit their. Dyson did not, however, invent the clear bin, Mr.Parwaz, Rainbow invented that sometime around the 1940s, First as a demonstration tool, but then put into production for household models.
PLENTY of Bagless cleaner where available YEARS before Dyson, Such as Rainbow, or Filter Queen.
Again, PLENTY of vacuums had carry handles, Decades before Dyson. What canister cleaner didn't come with one? Electrolux, Rainbow, Filter-Queen, Hoover, The list goes on!
Hoover also was far ahead of Dyson, having a Stretch hose as early as the 1950s. Take a look at this 1963 Hoover testing Footage, those Constellations look to have stretch hoses to me!
Again, if anyone wishes to correct me, please do so now. CLICK HERE TO GO TO super-sweeper's LINK |
Post# 258244 , Reply# 34   12/2/2013 at 07:48 (3,769 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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For me the best cordless vacuum is still the dust buster by Black and Decker and those who have followed since. Even a wet and dry Black and Decker cordless dust buster makes a lot more sense in a busy home in general, especially with pets or children, or both.
Even corded hand vacs have their place like the excellent Dirt Devil Handy, a model I had for many years before buying the Black and Decker corded hand held I have now. Clearly what is happening here is a move to release hand helds and replacing the previous market of "lightweight" uprights with the stick idea. It is hardly new. The only difference is that many buyers will adore the advertising of Dyson alone and may well promote sales of the Dyson model alone when the UK have been one nation who have been very slow to pick up on the idea of a corded or cordless stick vacuum anyway. On the continent, stick vacuums have always been popular but in the UK we're not so mindful - possibly down to the climate we have to suffer with and have more carpets than hard floors as a result. |
Post# 260787 , Reply# 35   12/25/2013 at 20:10 (3,746 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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