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Hoover Aria - HELP!
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Post# 257361   11/23/2013 at 08:48 (3,804 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

So, about 2 weeks ago the cord re-wind on the Hoover Aria had just had it, but the machine ran fine! But I wanted to get all the cable around, so I didn't have to drag the whole machine over to the nearest socket. The problem with the re-wind was a coil which was jamming the cable re-wind from working properly. This was taken out and the cord reeled out just fine. To my horror after removing this coil the machine wouldn't turn on. Soon after,  I found out this coil was part of the electrical circuit to the motor. (such a poor design!)

 

So, I have set myself a challenge to bridge over we're the coil was in order to make the machine work again. However, the wiring is sooooo overly complicated, mis-coloured, and just generally makes no sense to what I'm used to on YDKs or other motors alike.

 

There are now a total of 4 wires to wire up in order for the machine to work. Here's an overview inside the motor compartment...


Post# 257362 , Reply# 1   11/23/2013 at 08:51 (3,804 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

The wires in from the mains (UK - 230-260V AC 49.9 - 50.1Hz). For those who don't know, the Brown is the LIVE and the Blue is the NEUTRAL


Post# 257363 , Reply# 2   11/23/2013 at 08:54 (3,804 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

There's this other brown wire which goes into another component which I'm not sure what it is. This brown wire I would assume would correspond with the brown from the mains, however I'm not sure. This is because this brown wire is connected to a black wire straight underneath the connection. Then, at the other side of the component there's another brown wire, going into the motor.


Post# 257365 , Reply# 3   11/23/2013 at 09:01 (3,804 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

And finally, here's the switch with a red and black wire going into it. The black wire on the previous photo coming out of the odd component goes into the motor, back out, and into the switch. Then out of the switch, the red wire trails into the motor.

 

Basically, here's the list of wires which need to be connected to the corresponding (and correct) circuit.

 

BLUE

BROWN

BLACK

RED

 

Usually I would know how to wire these up on a YDK or another motor similar, but because everything on the Aria is mis-coded  it's more of a challenge.

 

I hope I haven't got others scratching their head like me!

 

If anyone can help me that would be great! :)

 

Kind Regards,

Tim (RootCyclone)


Post# 257374 , Reply# 4   11/23/2013 at 11:34 (3,804 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Well, seeing how you knew how to get the cleaner apart, I incorrectly assumed you would know what the parts are. However; the coil you removed sounds like it would have been a ring of black metal with the two input wires wrapped around of it. I have seen these on many appliances and have no idea what it does. It looks like a choke, but again why or how it works, I don't know. If it was there then Hoover clearly felt there was a need for it.

Now, look at your cleaner. You have two bare wires, one brown and one red. The red runs to the foot operated on/off isolating switch, after which another wire comes off the switch to the motor. For safety, the switch should ALWAYS be in the live circuit, so that bare end is your live wire.

The brown wire goes to a thermal cut-out switch. This is what activates when the cleaner overheats. A wire off that goes to the motor. This is your neutral wire.

The other object you have there is the suppressor. It is black, and has two black wires, one on the live and one on the neutral. This is fine as it is.

From your photographs it seems all you need to do is attach the the live and neutral wires from your mains lead to the live and neutral bare ends on the motor. However, I take no responsibility what so ever if you get it wrong in any way.



Post# 257383 , Reply# 5   11/23/2013 at 13:56 (3,804 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

So the circular what I called 'odd shaped component' is the thermal cut out then? yes?

 

I preferably want to wire it up as it was just without the re-wind being there, basically still using the switch, suppressor and all other bits n' pieces that still work fine.   


Post# 257388 , Reply# 6   11/23/2013 at 14:23 (3,804 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
'odd shaped component'

Hello. Where did you say that?

Post# 257389 , Reply# 7   11/23/2013 at 14:30 (3,804 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

bollocks, I didn't say that. Urgh! tiredness again as well as trying to get the Aria to work! :(

 

Just look at reply #2 for the circular odd looking component picture, is that the thermal cut out?


Post# 257390 , Reply# 8   11/23/2013 at 14:33 (3,804 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Yes, that is it. What you have removed (the coil) was attached to the two wires for the motor. All you need to connect those to the incoming mains supply.

Post# 257393 , Reply# 9   11/23/2013 at 15:17 (3,804 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

Thank you vintagerepairer :) I now know the live goes into the thermal cut out. What about the Neutral (Mains blue wire), what do I with that? would this correspond with the red wire that is seen from the switch to the motor?

 

(If I come across a bit odd, I'm sorry, but I want to make sure that everything is ok. I want the Aria to live again, the last thing I want happening is it going up in smoke Cry )

 


Post# 257398 , Reply# 10   11/23/2013 at 15:34 (3,804 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

You're not odd, but you do need to read what I said much more carefully. The live DOES NOT go to the thermal cut out, as I said originally, the live must ALWAYS go to the on/off isolating switch. Have another look at what I wrote. I said you only have two bare wires, the red which goes to the switch and then off to the motor; this is the LIVE, and then the brown which goes to the thermal cut-out & then the motor; this is the NEUTRAL.

Post# 257401 , Reply# 11   11/23/2013 at 15:53 (3,804 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Ah so live to switch only, neutral through the thermal cutout

Post# 257405 , Reply# 12   11/23/2013 at 16:14 (3,804 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

That should be it, Sam!

 

I am beginning to understand it now, I hope the Aria lives again! :)



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