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Post# 255259   11/5/2013 at 08:52 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Well today I went to collect my first Hoover TP2 with Autosense. Yes Autosense, the one to have. Its the all singing all dancing model with the pretty lights and loved by Alexhoovers94, who I am sure will be very exited at seeing these pics of it in its raw just acquired state, before I have stripped It down for cleaning.

It works fully, including the autosense, but requires a new belt and filters, and the brushroll is noisy. The motor however runs very nicely which is the main thing. As most turbopwers of the era did, this model has also lost its red hoover roundel off the handle. It stinks of dogs too, so I threw the old bag out. It came from what I think was a house clearance and has been stood for a while hence its covered in dust, and loking quite frankly very sorry for itself.

It cost me the princely sum of a fiver plus a 30 mile drive to fetch it.

Post# 255260 , Reply# 1   11/5/2013 at 08:53 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Front view

Post# 255261 , Reply# 2   11/5/2013 at 08:54 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Head and side view

Post# 255262 , Reply# 3   11/5/2013 at 08:55 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

rear view with all its tools present

Post# 255263 , Reply# 4   11/5/2013 at 08:56 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Inside the bag compartment - minus the dirty stinking of dogs bag!

Post# 255264 , Reply# 5   11/5/2013 at 08:57 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The underside view, showing the typical neglected brushroll that hardly turns due to the badly slipping belt

Post# 255266 , Reply# 6   11/5/2013 at 08:58 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

And the ID plate showing it was made in June 1994. Making it just under 20 years old

Post# 255268 , Reply# 7   11/5/2013 at 09:02 (1,659 days old) by citroenbx (england)        

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very cool

Post# 255269 , Reply# 8   11/5/2013 at 09:09 (1,659 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Ooooohh nice. ;)

I'm sure it'll clean up very nicely!

Post# 255270 , Reply# 9   11/5/2013 at 09:10 (1,659 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Nice one, Steve - looking forward to seeing it cleaned up in it's full glory. I was never a fan of the autosense feature - I always found it very annoying. But they're great machines to own. Happy Hoovering!

Post# 255271 , Reply# 10   11/5/2013 at 09:11 (1,659 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I agree Chris, I always found Autosense annoying!

Post# 255272 , Reply# 11   11/5/2013 at 09:26 (1,659 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
I always found Autosense annoying!

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I do prefer the styling of the T2 Autosense and T1000 with the 2 buttons, I just wish it had the option for variable power OR autosense (like the Miele Automatics and Panasonic Icon) as "automatic" modes of this nature were never something I liked. I want my carpet consistently clean, not cleaner in some parts than others. Also, due to the design of the autosense, it doesn't detect things like pet hair or other lighter debris.

Post# 255273 , Reply# 12   11/5/2013 at 09:29 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Yes, but its a gadget, and when I was in my early 20's many many moons ago, I bought one of these brand new, the TP3 model with autosense and the permabag. It was the top of the range model back then and had to compete with the Dyson DC01, so Hoover needed to make it as good as possible to draw people away from Dyson's offering. But we all know now the outcome sadly. Dyson stole the market away from Hoover, and now these models have all but died out - tossed aside into the dumps around the country as old fashioned technology that no-one wanted. Its only those models put away in lofts and the back of garages that now survive for us collectors so we should seize them with all haste and make sure they get preserved.
As far as I'm concerned, the TP2 was the best Hoover I ever had, I loved them. They were in my opinion, the last of the great Hoovers. The Purepower was not a patch on the Turbopwer 2.

Well I suppose I'd better order the bits I need for it up from Buydustbags and then start stripping it down.......

Post# 255274 , Reply# 13   11/5/2013 at 09:33 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

It also looks like I could be making my 1000'th post on this thread about the TP1000 - what a co-incidence!

Post# 255283 , Reply# 14   11/5/2013 at 10:25 (1,659 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Dyson stole the market away from Hoover

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That's not entirely true.

Hoover did themselves absolutely no favours with Free Flights and only have themselves to blame for their demise. Throughout the 80's and 90's, Hoover were always 1 step behind the competition. It was 1992 before they brought out a clean air machine with onboard tools, whereas Electrolux and Panasonic had been at it since 1986. Even the Turbomaster and Turbopower total systems were just an old design with a hole cut in the side and a hose shoved on it. They were far too out-dated and were struggling anyway. Free flights was meant to put Hoover back on the map and for a while, during the first promotion with the European flights, it did.

James Dyson has also admitted he never wanted to make vacuums. He tried to sell his technology to Hoover and was laughed out the door.

With Hoover down the pan, Dyson was able to creep in to the market at the perfect time as the vacuum buying public, who had been faithful to Hoover and Electrolux for years, were crying out for something new. People didn't want to buy Hoover's anymore with the companies reputation in tatters and with Dyson's incredibly clever marketing ploy and gimmicks, the UK consumers started buying Dyson's instead.

The combination of Hoover's self-enduced demise and the perfect timing by Dyson are what killed off Hoover and led to the success of Dyson.

Post# 255293 , Reply# 15   11/5/2013 at 13:09 (1,659 days old) by HI-LOswitch98 (Mid-Wales/Shropshire)        

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Shame Hoover had to turn out like they have now, I mean they're still good but obviously not like they were by the sound of it.

Post# 255311 , Reply# 16   11/5/2013 at 15:09 (1,659 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

that someone agrees with me when I said recently that the timing was impeccable for Dyson. What Hoover Europe did with that free-flight fiasco was handing James Dyson a share of the vacuum cleaner market on a plate. Hoover couldn't have planned it better, but the as the saying went, "Hoover - who better?".

Post# 255315 , Reply# 17   11/5/2013 at 15:36 (1,659 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Why did Hoover need to change their, already excellent design that sold so well, why? Electrolux did that with the 600 series and what happened? The cleaner was not as good as the 500 series, just because they wanted to have the machine have on-board tools.
Hoover kept their design as it sold so well and modified it to have attached tools, which worked adequately.
Then they brought out the Turbopower 2 and sacrifced performance.

Post# 255320 , Reply# 18   11/5/2013 at 15:46 (1,659 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Hoover were better, despite being behind...

Post# 255321 , Reply# 19   11/5/2013 at 15:46 (1,659 days old) by Vintagerepairer (England)        

I have to say, I thought the Turbopower 2 and 3 were the best Hoover had made in years. But we must remember that their demise was not largely connected to what they were making, more how they ran their business.

Post# 255323 , Reply# 20   11/5/2013 at 15:53 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

OK, off to the kitchen it was to get a going over

Post# 255324 , Reply# 21   11/5/2013 at 15:53 (1,659 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
which worked adequately

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I completely disagree. The total systems, when compared to Electrolux and Panasonic cleaners of the time, were not better as uprights but very poor on the hose. Other manufacturers where offering equal performance between hose suction and carpet pick up WITH the added bonus of the tools being built onto the machine.

The Turbopower 1 was never meant to have tools and by adding them, Hoover made the machine excessively wide and bulky to use. With the on board hose, the Turbopower 1 didn't reach the edge of the skirting, for example.

Post# 255325 , Reply# 22   11/5/2013 at 15:54 (1,659 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I agree, the Turbopower 2/3 had a lot going for them - strong build quality, strong hose suction while remaining quiet, better filtration compared to Turbopower 1 and good performance, certainly better than the later Purepower!

Post# 255326 , Reply# 23   11/5/2013 at 15:54 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Belt cover off, and it looked like this had never been off before, as the seal all came out too and had to be really tugged apart

Post# 255327 , Reply# 24   11/5/2013 at 15:55 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I think that this was still the original belt?

Post# 255328 , Reply# 25   11/5/2013 at 15:57 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Hood off, and more dust

Post# 255329 , Reply# 26   11/5/2013 at 15:58 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Seperated the body from the base:

Post# 255330 , Reply# 27   11/5/2013 at 15:59 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Motor cover removed:

Post# 255331 , Reply# 28   11/5/2013 at 16:00 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The switch module and cover removed, showing the autosense LED's

Post# 255332 , Reply# 29   11/5/2013 at 16:02 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The inner bag chamber out, showing the autosense microphone on the entrance to the bag housing

Post# 255333 , Reply# 30   11/5/2013 at 16:04 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Motor removed. Its a good motor with plenty of carbon brush length left and quiet bearings. I bet JMurray would like this motor lol

Post# 255334 , Reply# 31   11/5/2013 at 16:06 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The bag full sender - I removed its little pipe for cleaning

Post# 255335 , Reply# 32   11/5/2013 at 16:07 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

And the empty carcass with the remaining wiring loom.

Post# 255336 , Reply# 33   11/5/2013 at 16:09 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Fast forward now, having been cleaned, lubricated, new bag and belt fitted, filters washed, and casing polished. Was unable to remove some of the paint from the base, but oh well, its all part of its character.

Post# 255337 , Reply# 34   11/5/2013 at 16:11 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I do like the original silent salesman sticker, so it stays on

Post# 255338 , Reply# 35   11/5/2013 at 16:12 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Looking not to bad

Post# 255339 , Reply# 36   11/5/2013 at 16:13 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

Another shot

Post# 255340 , Reply# 37   11/5/2013 at 16:14 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

And the underside view, minus the dust it had before. The brushroll works well now too now it has a new belt

Post# 255341 , Reply# 38   11/5/2013 at 16:17 (1,659 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

A nice sweet smelling new bag fitted, and hooray - no smell of dogs any more.

Its a great old TP2, been used a fair bit, but it all works as it should, and the next one I want will be the TP3

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