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Post# 254890 , Reply# 1   11/2/2013 at 05:54 (3,800 days old) by Adamthemieleman (North Yorkshire )   |   | |
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Picture 2,the rear. All original tools. Not in bad shape, few marks here and there but it appears to have been gently used. Also, can someone tell me what the yellow switch is on the swivel neck? What's it's function? |
Post# 254907 , Reply# 4   11/2/2013 at 09:23 (3,799 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Ohhh I love it! I love the pet colour too - black and silver - very posh. As Roger correctly says the slider above the pedal gives you a stepped position lock or none at all. Mine is always in the stepped position as the long cord can always get in the way if I am vacuuming "on the return," towards the mains socket that the plug is plugged into.
Unlocking it for the handle to go all the way down is handy for getting under beds (open bedstead styles) for cleaning flat to the floor with its 180 degree design. Due to the age of the X series, it is louder than the S7's more modern motor with variable settings but I find the X series to be more nimble than the S7 generally. |
Post# 255012 , Reply# 5   11/3/2013 at 11:47 (3,798 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 255028 , Reply# 6   11/3/2013 at 15:55 (3,798 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow!!!!!!! Beautiful vacuum! I want one now :D |
Post# 255029 , Reply# 7   11/3/2013 at 15:56 (3,798 days old) by parwaz786 ( )   |   | |
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow!!!!!!! Beautiful vacuum! I want one now :D |
Post# 255039 , Reply# 8   11/3/2013 at 17:02 (3,798 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Nice. A family member has one, and I reckon it would give a tp1 a run for its money for grooming carpet! |
Post# 255118 , Reply# 9   11/4/2013 at 07:24 (3,797 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 255121 , Reply# 11   11/4/2013 at 08:02 (3,797 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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The thing that impressed me all those years ago from my parents old X1 Automatic was how simple this machine is to fix. From removing clogs which didn't happen that often to removal of mum's old craft room threads from her sewing, wrapped around the brush roll, which was a regular occurrence.
When I first started collecting vacuums, I wasn't that impressed with the SEBO. I was such a classic Hoover fan that nothing else could beat the machines I had collected. It wasn't until after our SEBO broke down with a drive belt breakage that I realised how easy this upright is to fix. Not only is it simple but you don't need that much knowledge to attempt changing the belt, or simple maintenance in general. Whereas I'd have to remove two screws to get at the brush roll on my Hoover uprights the SEBO brush roll just comes out via a trapdoor at the side via a button release. No time wasted at all compared to conventional designs on others! Clearly SEBO went out on a limb when they designed the X series to be user friendly not just with general use but also with user friendly maintenance rather than send the model back to the company. |
Post# 255124 , Reply# 12   11/4/2013 at 09:14 (3,797 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 255128 , Reply# 14   11/4/2013 at 09:47 (3,797 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Adam, I think this is a direct result of poor staff training. It's obvious that you know your stuff, but that's because you're interested and take the time to know what you're talking about. Can you honestly say, for someone who doesn't know much about vacuums, that they would be given appropriate training on starting with Currys?
I may have to contact Currys myself as I feel them dropping Sebo is ridiculous and I shall include a list of reasons why. Currys only have themselves to blame for poor sales. |
Post# 255131 , Reply# 16   11/4/2013 at 10:20 (3,797 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Frankly the loss of SEBO at Currys won't affect SEBO directly - their number one stockist, John Lewis has always remained to be a constant representative on the high street of that product since the intro of the X series to the UK and secondly with Euronics stores, you'll still be able to buy SEBO "offline". I'm not counting Tesco as they seem to offer on and off whenever they feel like it.
I think it also has much to do with the location of the area in which any Currys store is located rather than direct sales and knowledge. Take for example my local Currys - it is set in Greenock which is still a poor place where there are many bargain budget shops to extend the Scottish pound currency. There are also two large supermarkets nearby constantly battling with each other and the Currys store that sat opposite the now defunct Comet no longer gets the amount of traffic it once used to get. There's a lady salesperson in there who knows her stuff about a lot of appliances and her vacuum cleaner knowledge isn't too bad either. Every bagged cylinder vacuum they sell is a Numatic Henry. It would appear that despite the copious amounts of Miele vacuums they have in store and on the shop floor, people just aren't interested. They want Henry because of the smiley face, the cheap cost prices and because it has earnt a great reputation. The more popular bagged uprights that have sold the most have been Panasonic's bagged uprights RATHER than the Hoover Purepower. The sales staff are sick of the Purepower because of constant complaints and owners bringing their vacuums back to the shop when they know they're not supposed to. The Greenock store does not have any SEBO appliance on the shop floor. When asked why, it is simply because buyers aren't prepared to pay over the odds for the tech offered and for the fact that it takes a bag. She wasn't aware of the value that the SEBO offers over Miele with the dust bags etc let alone the fact that it shuts off when a clog occurs etc. Generally although Currys sales staff do themselves no favours about product info, if it hasn't been put in place for them in the first place, I can see why some buyers feel that they lack product info. At John Lewis, a few sales staff will reach for a promo SEBO brochure if they feel like they are struggling, but I've often been impressed by the knowledge that a few JL salespeople have. After all if you keep reading the same text continually, you'll eventually save it in your seller's memory and then deliver it to the customer when required. The Greenock store also have trouble selling TOL and Middle of the Line Kenwood Chef Premier table mixers. The general population are not prepared to pay over the odds with the standard two motors on top and a fancy finish. This is one reason to why Currys and the now-defunct Comet had offered the "Classic" model as a price competitive model (yours truly bought one!) with a metal body and plastic controls as a "lead in" model as opposed to the same model in plastic and a highly inflated cost price that buyers could see didn't offer that much of a difference. The demand from franchises like Comet, Currys etc has eventually pushed the home brand to produce exclusive machines at capped or fixed prices - enter SEBO's X4, K series at Euronics stores and the X4 Excel at John Lewis. |
Post# 255135 , Reply# 18   11/4/2013 at 11:07 (3,797 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Sebo really need to advertise themselves better. They've achieved a hell of a lot since 1978 (first ever upright with a built in hose, first ever vacuum with clutch controls, first ever upright with computer controls) but yet nobody seems to know who they are unless they work in commercial cleaning.
I'm slowly getting my friends and family members onto Sebo vacuums. A friend of mine recently bought an X4 Extra and was very impressed with the computer controled height adjustment, but I had to explain what that was to her. Having said that, my 2 nearest independant vacuum shops both sing Sebo's praises and sell more Sebo vacuums than any other brand, so at least if you go to your local independent shop, they'll be able to give you the full picture about ANY vacuum. Here's a link to the Sebo X1.1 entry on the Wakefield Floorcare website who I know are big sellers of Sebo's. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Turbo500's LINK |
Post# 255148 , Reply# 19   11/4/2013 at 12:55 (3,797 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well Steve, the problem is that like larger appliances, there simply isn't enough store space to store everything that every farting appliance a department store sells and rather like Swarovski crystals, you'll only get one or two buyers once or twice a year ordering in a specific item and even then some jewels have to be specifically ordered in. I agree with what you are saying but sales aren't that important for department stores in floorcare - otherwise you'd see far more space taken up with floorcare appliances as opposed to the entire floorspace that jL have chosen to showcase their fitted kitchen cabinets with. Though JL enjoy good sales with SEBO and vice versa, at least you can buy more than one model of SEBO at JL unlike Oreck. Obvioulsy I can't speak for your location but I am aware that the Glasgow and Edinburgh stores have SEBO X series in stock plus a few Felix models.
Years ago I used to think SEBO didn't have enough impact on the market, advert wise but I don't think they need to, looking back on how well they have secured the market on their commercial origins first and foremost. End of the day, they're still a commercial company having developed the D Series Professional canister vacuum and that polisher head for the Dart. In the last 15 years or so I've managed to persuade schools and hospitals to buy SEBO uprights as well as friends who have also been impressed with their K series vacuums. You have to remember Chris, SEBO are still a private family owned operation, of course their reputation and recognition is increasing year by year but they don't enjoy as much investment as Miele holds. Those who are interested just go to the SEBO UK website and discover what the machines are as well as the brand. You don't see or hear adverts for the Numatic Henry on the television or on radio; as such I don't think SEBO need a lot of advertising; they've done a little in household living magazines etc and I think that is enough, really - their approach heads up to the premium market both reflected in the premium home living magazines as well as of course Which's ratings, which a lot of buyers still believe in. |
Post# 255177 , Reply# 21   11/4/2013 at 15:55 (3,797 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 255408 , Reply# 23   11/6/2013 at 16:29 (3,795 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 255463 , Reply# 24   11/7/2013 at 04:24 (3,795 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 255475 , Reply# 25   11/7/2013 at 08:03 (3,794 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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It can't be easy for Miele sometimes as they also have Bosch's cylinder vacs sitting underneath in the premium line and SEBO with their increasing presence. Bosch need to up the quality. Their latest BSGL5000 series in the UK has still been fitted in the UK with friction fit tubes, floor heads etc. The models in Germany appear to have push button locks.
The BSGL5ALLGB offers a similar capacity bag to Miele and a 12.1 metre cable... CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK |
Post# 255477 , Reply# 26   11/7/2013 at 08:09 (3,794 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 255634 , Reply# 27   11/8/2013 at 12:43 (3,793 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Id still pay that though. Miele make great cylinder vacuums, even if there are a few annoying things about them like the short cord. They are far better made than Bosch though and I think the price justifies that as well as the general design of them. I too have an S5211 (red pearl model) and find it a great and versatile vacuum to use. I also have a new S8 to play with and find it a bit lighter to the S5.
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