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Post# 254639   10/30/2013 at 22:30 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Following the Monster Mash Bash II in Pittston where I acquired a lovely plastic base Convertible, I of course had to bring it down to John Gregory for the diagnosis, operation, and photo op!

I will start by saying that this machine needed a whole lot more work than I bargained for.......but John in his infinite generosity would not take a nickel for the work and the parts that went into my cleaner. He's a truly kind person! Talk about giving it forward!

The doctor prepares to operate!




This post was last edited 10/30/2013 at 23:43
Post# 254640 , Reply# 1   10/30/2013 at 22:31 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Removing the dry rotted bag.

Post# 254641 , Reply# 2   10/30/2013 at 22:32 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Ack!

Post# 254642 , Reply# 3   10/30/2013 at 22:33 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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The wrong handle hardware and a missing support plate. What fresh Hoover hell is this?!

Post# 254644 , Reply# 4   10/30/2013 at 22:34 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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One must always wear proper head protection when working on a cleaner.

Post# 254645 , Reply# 5   10/30/2013 at 22:35 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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More wrong hardware?! Jeez, who serviced this thing last?!

Post# 254646 , Reply# 6   10/30/2013 at 22:36 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Overall, she's in pretty good shape, eh?

Post# 254647 , Reply# 7   10/30/2013 at 22:37 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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It figures that I would buy a machine with a crack in the base. Oh well. It's still functional!

Post# 254648 , Reply# 8   10/30/2013 at 22:39 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Not bad, not bad. We can work with this one.

Post# 254649 , Reply# 9   10/30/2013 at 22:40 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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All clean under the hood, but my GOD is that top bearing dry. This will never do!

Post# 254651 , Reply# 10   10/30/2013 at 22:42 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Yuck! Sludge, schmutz, dust, and crud.

Post# 254652 , Reply# 11   10/30/2013 at 22:43 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Double ack!

Post# 254653 , Reply# 12   10/30/2013 at 22:44 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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On the left, new old stock Genuine North Canton Hoover top bearing, on the right, the disaster that was on the cleaner previously.

Post# 254654 , Reply# 13   10/30/2013 at 22:45 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Isn't it beautiful?

Post# 254655 , Reply# 14   10/30/2013 at 22:46 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Motor is done. New top bearing and new carbon brushes!

Post# 254656 , Reply# 15   10/30/2013 at 22:50 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Since a dry rotted outer bag will never do, John was so kind to give me this beautiful black commercial replacement bag that he outfitted with a top fill Type A fill tube.

Post# 254658 , Reply# 16   10/30/2013 at 22:51 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Type A fill tube and a HEPA cloth bag too. Genuine Hoover, of course!

Post# 254659 , Reply# 17   10/30/2013 at 22:53 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Trying to put the bag on, but it isn't fitting quite right. Why could this be? A bent plate. That's what. We must soon fix this!

Post# 254660 , Reply# 18   10/30/2013 at 22:54 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Here's the culprit.

Post# 254661 , Reply# 19   10/30/2013 at 22:56 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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A few well placed gentle smacks with a ball peen hammer soon righted the wrong that the plate had done.

Post# 254662 , Reply# 20   10/30/2013 at 22:57 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Trademark of true quality.

Post# 254663 , Reply# 21   10/30/2013 at 22:59 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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A commercial hood to match the new black bag? A nice thought, but not this time.

Post# 254664 , Reply# 22   10/30/2013 at 23:01 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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A bit out of sequence, I know, but I nearly forgot that in the midst of servicing the motor, we realized that the armature was just a few spins away from death. When was the last time you saw a brand new North Canton made Hoover Convertible armature?

This beautiful part now resides in my beautiful cleaner.


Post# 254665 , Reply# 23   10/30/2013 at 23:03 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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She's starting to look like a whole cleaner again.

Post# 254666 , Reply# 24   10/30/2013 at 23:06 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Getting this brushroll apart was NOT an easy task. A vice and vice grips were necessary.

Post# 254667 , Reply# 25   10/30/2013 at 23:07 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Eeeeeek that bearing is shot!

Post# 254668 , Reply# 26   10/30/2013 at 23:08 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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The bearing

Post# 254669 , Reply# 27   10/30/2013 at 23:10 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Receiving a set of new old stock North Canton bearings and bristle strips.

Post# 254670 , Reply# 28   10/30/2013 at 23:11 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Isn't that fabulous? New end caps, bearings, and bristle strips!

Post# 254671 , Reply# 29   10/30/2013 at 23:12 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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All done! The doctor poses with his latest success story.

Post# 254672 , Reply# 30   10/30/2013 at 23:13 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Isn't it lovely?

Post# 254673 , Reply# 31   10/30/2013 at 23:15 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Here the vacuum doctor poses with the latest delivery to the store from TTI. This new Royal is absolutely wonderful!

Post# 254674 , Reply# 32   10/30/2013 at 23:17 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Hoover's current household line.

Post# 254675 , Reply# 33   10/30/2013 at 23:19 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Inspired by servicing my Convertible, John just had to give his storefront daily driver a little tuneup. Isn't it a gorgeous machine?

Post# 254676 , Reply# 34   10/30/2013 at 23:22 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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I wasn't the only visitor John had to the store in the last week. Last Friday, Robert Coonradt and his partner dropped by for a visit. Robert was very kind to bring John two beautiful Convertibles. First, we have this orange and white model from the early 80s.

Post# 254678 , Reply# 35   10/30/2013 at 23:24 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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It runs beautifully and only the brushroll needed a little attention. It received new end caps, bearings, and bristles. These end caps were a little bit crusted.....Penncrusted, one might even say.

Post# 254679 , Reply# 36   10/30/2013 at 23:26 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Isn't that brushroll great looking? Every beautiful cleaner needs a good brushroll.

Post# 254681 , Reply# 37   10/30/2013 at 23:30 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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The other cleaner Robert gifted to John is also orange and white. Here she sits among her Ranger siblings.

Post# 254682 , Reply# 38   10/30/2013 at 23:31 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Just for our very own Rob Shore, aka Zippy, a shot of your favorite Kmart special model. This one runs absolutely perfectly!

Post# 254683 , Reply# 39   10/30/2013 at 23:34 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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A fully serviced Convertible, the beautiful bagless Platinum Series that John so graciously gifted to me, and a fabulous new SteamVac that I purchased tonight at an unbeatable price.

Post# 254684 , Reply# 40   10/30/2013 at 23:35 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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If anyone is interested in seeing the SteamVac, I'll be posting the unboxing thread over in Contemporary!

Post# 254689 , Reply# 41   10/30/2013 at 23:51 (3,829 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Wonderful pics and tour.Looks like a great time and machine.

Post# 254692 , Reply# 42   10/31/2013 at 01:32 (3,829 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Brilliant, a proper service!

Post# 254715 , Reply# 43   10/31/2013 at 06:39 (3,829 days old) by kenmorekid ()        

I haven't had a chance to talk to Rob Shore since he got back, but did u get the Lux, Kirby, and hose for your kenmore I sent with him?

Post# 254720 , Reply# 44   10/31/2013 at 07:04 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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I did, and they're fabulous! Thanks Mike!

Post# 254747 , Reply# 45   10/31/2013 at 11:55 (3,829 days old) by vacu-finder ()        
Hoover U4119

What did he charge you for all that work on the yellow convertible..?
My guess is around....................:)

Armature: $40.00
Top bearing: $20.00
Brushes: $15.00
Belt: $4.00
Cloth Bag: $30.00
Labour: $26.95
Brush strips: $20.00
Brush roll bearings: $15.00

Total: $170.95 + Tax......


Post# 254751 , Reply# 46   10/31/2013 at 12:59 (3,829 days old) by kenmorekid ()        
Bags for your Kenmore

I found 3 Kenmore 50651 bags in my collection today, do those fit yours?

Post# 254753 , Reply# 47   10/31/2013 at 13:08 (3,829 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
John Gregory

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is an amazingly kind friend and I am so glad to see him on here .

I still must get some time to visit his store again .

He is Mr. Hoover NO one has more knowledge about Hoover than John Gregory ;)

Great machines there Matt :)

Dan


Post# 254764 , Reply# 48   10/31/2013 at 15:38 (3,829 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Vac-U-Finder,

I do believe I stated in my above postings that John Gregory would not take payment for the work and parts done to my machine. He is truly a wonderful friend. So your assumption of price total, while probably accurate for any other vac shop, does not hold to my machine.


Post# 254768 , Reply# 49   10/31/2013 at 16:45 (3,828 days old) by vacu-finder ()        

"I do believe I stated in my above postings that John Gregory would not take payment for the work and parts done to my machine. He is truly a wonderful friend. So your assumption of price total, while probably accurate for any other vac shop, does not hold to my machine. "

Ok,,,,,,then why did he do it, just curious..?
cheers,




Post# 254772 , Reply# 50   10/31/2013 at 17:22 (3,828 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Why did he do it ?

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Deeb ,
I guess your not use to kind hearted people doing stuff just because .

Why does there have to be a cost involved ? Sometimes a simple thank you is worth more than money itself .

Give unto others ...

Better to give than receive ...


Dan


Post# 254777 , Reply# 51   10/31/2013 at 18:00 (3,828 days old) by vacu-finder ()        

WHO YOU CALLING deeb.?????????????

Post# 254778 , Reply# 52   10/31/2013 at 18:21 (3,828 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
read your

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profile that's what it says is your name ;)


Dan


Post# 254790 , Reply# 53   10/31/2013 at 21:18 (3,828 days old) by KirbyLux ()        
Convertible

Nice Convertible! I enjoyed the photos very much. And with such a thorough service it has to last forever! Well done!

Post# 254793 , Reply# 54   10/31/2013 at 23:23 (3,828 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Favorite Convertible?!?!

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It's a very nice looking Convertible that orange one. My Convertible knowledge is NO WHERE near to that of my canister vacs. My interest is the sound of a 4.3 Amp motored model. Many of those hoods, as seen on that Kmart model come with a 4.8Amp HP motor. While I like the sound of the 4.8, 5.0 and 6Amp motors, it's SIGNIFICANTLY different from the 4.3Amp. The 4.3Amp motors I've heard also sound different from the typical 420 Watt Convertible models as found in a 1070, 69 or other earlier models. The 4.3 brings back childhood memories in my head of the 1st VACUUM I EVER USED!!!

In trying to find a 4.3Amp motored model, I am design and color fussy! There won't be pinks, purples, teals, ultra light colors, completely white, flower patterns or other off the wall things in my collection!!! Even that tan/ cream colored Decade 80 that I previously owned, had to go!! The all white cloth bag equipped Hoover Elite from early 90's nor all white JC Penney model would never be in my house!!! I like darker, brilliant colors: Deep Navy blue, Forest Green, Red. some oranges, some yellows. I like my Cinnamon Hoover Celebrity because it is a childhood vac that sounds cool!!! If it was a Deep Navy blue, that would be AWESOME!!! Wish my Celebrity IV Elite had the same shade of deep blue that's on the metal base, all over the machine!! The lighter sky colored teals don't appeal to me as much. Now a dark red Hoover Guardsman canister looks cool-- like a Hot Rod sort of color.

Additionally I'm much more privey to the headlight equipped models, and round all metal handle with the flip switch. I like the sound of the flip switch, and find the all metal round handle, more comfortable than the rubber end cap grip. The hood on the headlight models above is good, along with Ranger hood and some of the single piece hoods. I don't like the style hood that comes on a 67, 68, 69 style machines.

Now the window display Red hooded Convertible in Reply 33, looks terrific, though the bag is plain.

I have no idea what model the first Hoover Convertible I ever used was. My parents got rid of the machine when I was about 8 years old too. I recall that it was like a mint green hood, that I'm fairly certain was a single piece. It did not have a headlight. The bag was white, but my parents also had the machine converted from a Type C to Type A bag, so the bag on the unit as I knew it was most likely not original. The handle was a round metal , with flip switch. From what I've seen, it most closely matches the machine that Fred, HooverCelebrity, poses with as his profile photo. Though, I'm not certain as I've never been able to find one in real life anywhere!!

Matt, I'm so glad that your Convertible is doing well now. Thank you for thinking of me!! :)

***Fred I hope you don't mind as I copy and paste that photo below! The machine in use here most closely matches what I've seen so far as the first vacuum I've ever used. That one or the mint chocolate chip ice cream colored green directly behind you with white/green pokodot bag, except that the machine my parents had was definitely a round handle, not rectangle. I have no idea what model number or motors are in either of those machines.


Post# 254831 , Reply# 55   11/1/2013 at 10:00 (3,828 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Great Hoover store,

Great Hoover ads(some very rare),expert Hoover service,genuine Hoover parts,great selection of new Hoovers,genuine Hoover supplies,great vintage Hoovers!!- and then---do I see something in use that would have come with a DTD canister that uses a pan of water???--Just kidding.One of my most useful bench tools that is used all day,every day is from one of the most not useful vacs of all time.(extra long stair hose from Regina)

Post# 254839 , Reply# 56   11/1/2013 at 11:17 (3,828 days old) by vacu-finder ()        

profile that's what it says is your name ;)

Lol.....no its Dean..:) not trying to offend anyone, I was only asking about the cost to rebuild obviously I missed interpreted the post..:)


Post# 254843 , Reply# 57   11/1/2013 at 12:15 (3,828 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Wish my Vac shop offered this level of complete professional service! They are very nice and of help, but more into replacing motors.Sad.

Post# 255471 , Reply# 58   11/7/2013 at 07:06 (3,822 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Sweeper central

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Is run the old fashioned way with an owner that has a true passion for one brand .
It's the upfront personal touch that makes the difference and has kept this store open for many years .

Dan



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