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Electrolux 612 Electronic & Electrolux 616 Electronic
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Post# 254205   10/27/2013 at 18:46 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Hi everyone, I thought I would do a thread on my two new additions to my collection and Electrolux 612E and an Electrolux 616AE I got the 612E of Chris (Turbo500) he got that in a trade with another collector and then past it on to me...Which was awfully nice of you Chris, thank you! :)
I got the 616AE off eBay for £33 including postage, which is pretty good if you ask me.

The 612E had Quite a few issues when I got it, the handle had snapped, the motor bearings were very dry, the post filter had snapped off and it needed a clean.
I have remedied the issues now, I VERY luckily managed to get another handle off another 612E that was on eBay for spares, the seller was nice enough to just send me the handle and not the entire vac. I greased the motor bearings, so now it runs a lot smoother, I couldn't get a spare post filter cover so a bit of sellotape did the trick!

After a good clean, here is the 612E after the restoration, and sorry that the pictures are not brilliant.


Post# 254206 , Reply# 1   10/27/2013 at 18:54 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
On/off and Varipower

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Post# 254208 , Reply# 2   10/27/2013 at 19:03 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Bag door...

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Electrolux lettering, star Symbol to show that it has electronic power, central pattern design and bag check indictor piston.

Post# 254211 , Reply# 3   10/27/2013 at 19:12 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
cleaner head...

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Post# 254212 , Reply# 4   10/27/2013 at 19:15 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Side...

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Post# 254213 , Reply# 5   10/27/2013 at 19:20 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

where's the 616 Alexhoovers?

Are you gonna do a youtube demo of  them so we can hear you describing it in your dulcet tones?

 

I had one of these years and years ago but it didn't have the vario power knob. It was a progression from the 560 I suppose.


Post# 254214 , Reply# 6   10/27/2013 at 19:20 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Back...

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Post# 254215 , Reply# 7   10/27/2013 at 19:25 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Yes

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I have a video of the 612E uploading currently, is there something unique about my voice? lol. Do you like it or something :P HA!

Post# 254216 , Reply# 8   10/27/2013 at 19:29 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Inside of bag compartment...

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You may notice that the bag latch is black and not red, that is because when I first pressed it to release the bag, it snapped, luckily I found a new one on Espares.

Post# 254217 , Reply# 9   10/27/2013 at 19:31 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Tools...

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Post# 254220 , Reply# 10   10/27/2013 at 19:38 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Underside...

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Much better brushroll than the later Contours!

Post# 254221 , Reply# 11   10/27/2013 at 19:41 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Rating sticker...

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As the serial number says this one was made on the 48th week of 1987.



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Post# 254222 , Reply# 12   10/27/2013 at 19:42 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

That brushroll is the same as the one in my Miele S7 with those very chevron shaped rows of brushes.

I think you do quite good vids, but my favourite demos are done by Roger (youtube channel IBAISAIC)

Why don't we ever get to see more of you than just your legs? Roger always showed himself demoing his vacs.

 

Dates - I think that means it was made in the 48th week of 87.

 


Post# 254224 , Reply# 13   10/27/2013 at 19:49 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Now onto the 616AE...

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I was quite lucky with this 616AE as it is in really good condition and had no issues when I got it, the only thing it needed was a clean...Oh I tell a lie, the varipower doesn't work, but that will be easy to put right...Famous last words!!

So after a good clean, here she is!


Post# 254226 , Reply# 14   10/27/2013 at 19:52 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Ahh, I think you may be right about the dating thing.
Would you like to see me in my videos? Lol!
I am sure you wouldn't want to see my unattractive face, :P.


Post# 254227 , Reply# 15   10/27/2013 at 19:55 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Side...

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Post# 254228 , Reply# 16   10/27/2013 at 19:58 (3,826 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

I think what you should do is a comparison video of the differences between the 612 and the 616, like the one about the 2 henries.

Oh, and I have no doubt that you will be able to fix the knob on the 616 lol


Post# 254230 , Reply# 17   10/27/2013 at 19:59 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Back...

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Post# 254231 , Reply# 18   10/27/2013 at 20:02 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Thanks Steve, I think I will fiddle with the knob off camera!! :p

Post# 254232 , Reply# 19   10/27/2013 at 20:04 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Other side...

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Post# 254234 , Reply# 20   10/27/2013 at 20:09 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
On/off switch and Varipower...

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Post# 254236 , Reply# 21   10/27/2013 at 20:15 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Bag door...

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Electrolux lettering, Central design and bag check indicator piston.

Post# 254237 , Reply# 22   10/27/2013 at 20:20 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Cleaner head...

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Post# 254238 , Reply# 23   10/27/2013 at 20:26 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Tools...

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The hose on this 616AE is pretty stiff and is slightly wider than the 612 hose, the hose end is also a little fatter that the 612E hose end.

Post# 254240 , Reply# 24   10/27/2013 at 20:31 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Inside of bag compartment...

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As you can see, this one has a better pre filter setup, the filter is actually inside a cage, it does have a Hoover "spring bouquet" air freshener, which probably stands out!

Post# 254241 , Reply# 25   10/27/2013 at 20:34 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Underside...

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Again, very good, stiff bristled brushroll.

Post# 254242 , Reply# 26   10/27/2013 at 20:39 (3,826 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Rating sticker...

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This one is from the 44th week of 1990. By the way, what does the "A" stand for in the model number, as the "E" stands for electronic, but I can't think what the "A" stands for? Any suggestions?

Post# 254268 , Reply# 27   10/28/2013 at 05:16 (3,825 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Which was awfully nice of you Chris, thank you

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You're welcome! I was happy that it was going to a good home where it would be well looked after.

I do love the 600 series. Bit of info for those who'd like to know:

Launched in 1986 (alongside the newly modified "Twin Turbo" 500's), they were the first domestic upright in the UK with on-board tools and were advertised as "The vac with the hose at the back".

They're really great cleaners - quiet, strong suction and that brushroll really does a great job on carpet. They did have a few issues which were ironed out on the second style 600's (614 and 616) which came out in 1988.

The 600's were superseded by the Contour in 1991 - a big mistake in my opinion as the contour, though a more stylish looking machine, wasn't half the cleaner that the 600 was.

My Grandma had the white Electrolux 610 from 1986 - 1997, so I have lots of great memories before these vacs :).


Post# 254270 , Reply# 28   10/28/2013 at 05:46 (3,825 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I agree...

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The Contours are not to great really, bit of a bagged DC01 really.
I love the 500's and 600's very nice cleaners, although I do think that the 500's are a lot nicer to use and are easier to manoeuvre, with that said, I would rather have the tools on-board! So much more convenient when you have a vac with the hose at the back!


Post# 254380 , Reply# 29   10/28/2013 at 15:56 (3,825 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
A before E...

As I understand this, "A" indicates the second example of the cleaner, with any modifications made. For instance lets say the red filter cage inside the bag unit. Maybe the 616E did not have that, for example.

Quite why the prefix "E" was used to indicate "Electronic" when the none-electronic cleaners (save for the 350) always had their own model number. It is very strange.

Incidently, the hose on the 612 pictured is a rare sighting, as Electrolux soon changed it to the design seen on the 616 pictured below it. Why? Well, the stretch hose could not cope with having the threaded section inside of it, as if the hose was pulled hard enough, it came right out of the hose-end. Thus Electrolux changed it to a larger outside thread to stop this happening.


Post# 254382 , Reply# 30   10/28/2013 at 15:59 (3,825 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Also, with regards to the prefix, two long-running models spring to mind; the 87 cylinder and 170 upright, both of which could be found with A, B, C, and so on after the model number, as these cleaners had several changes to them as time progressed.

Post# 254383 , Reply# 31   10/28/2013 at 16:03 (3,825 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

Good looking 600s!
What do you prefer now, Electrolux or Hoover?


Post# 254392 , Reply# 32   10/28/2013 at 17:30 (3,825 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Benny, I think you may be correct about the model number "thing", I thought you may of been the one that would of been able to answer that for me. :P

I thought that may of been the reason that they changed the hose width and hose cuff "chunkiness" the hose on this 612E was quite stiff when I first got it, so I tried to sort of, over stretch it to try and make it a little less rigid, and by doing such a thing, rippled the hose straight out of the cuff, along with the internal coiled wire, I unfortunately has to loose an inch of the hose as some of it wouldn't go back inside the hose, I did however got as much of the wire back into the hose as possible...That was that lesson learned.
I think the slightly larger diameter hose gives it better cleaning performance, at least I felt it cling a bit more.

Jake, I like Hoover very much, as a lot of people probably already know! lol.
I do have a rather large soft spots for 70's, 80's and 90's Electrolux uprights.
To answer your question, I like Hoover a little more, but I do love Electrolux's also.
I am not quite as narrow minded as I once was (like two months ago!!!)

Alex.


Post# 254396 , Reply# 33   10/28/2013 at 17:53 (3,825 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Alex have you noticed yet the difference in the sole plates? Your 616 has mouldings at the back of the sole plate which prevent the cleaner tipping forward. Most 612 cleaners did not have this and as such can tip right over on itself.

Post# 254399 , Reply# 34   10/28/2013 at 18:07 (3,825 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Ahh yes Benny, infact...

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There are several differences in the sole plate, the 612 has 2 metal plates on where the opening to the brushroll is, where as the 616 doesn't, and as you said, the anti lean forward thing near the rear wheels, also, the 616 has a strip in the centre of the sole plate, I guess for a safety thing, possibly.

The 616 also doesn't have a handle on the bag door, which I believe only the 610 and 612 had, to assist with opening the bag door, but the 614, 615 and 616 never had it for whatever the reason.

I meant to mention, my 612 leans forward slightly and when you push forward on it, there is no real feeling of it stopping from going any further forward, there in no, "bash" feeling when you stand it upright and lean forward on the handle slightly...where as, when I stand the 616 upright, you can feel a big "bash" as it hits and obstacle to stop it from pushing any further forward, so it will stay at a 90 degree angle.

I hope that makes sense, because I can't think of any other way to explain it, lol.


Post# 254403 , Reply# 35   10/28/2013 at 18:44 (3,825 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Hello again Alex. The additional plastic moulding on the middle front of the sole plate is to strengthen the front section of the plate. Given that the 612 had the metal strips, this may well have been enough support, but certainly more would have been needed without it, as it would easily have flexed inwards when caught on gripper rods etc.

The 612 was supposed to stand still at 90 degrees, but the mouldings in the hood which were designed to do this were completely insufficient, hence the later design whereby the additional mouldings were added to the sole plate to overcome the issue. Also inside the hood, early models had a metal ring attached to the side where the pedal locks, but this ring was too soft and broke easily. The modification for this saw the locking positions being attached to the ducting where the hose handle slides in, moulded as one unit.

Now, as for the handle in the bag door, this was merely glued in place and I have seen several where it was missing. I assume that as the handle made opening the cover only slightly easier, a decision must have been taken to leave it off altogether. This would have reduced assembly costs and solved another of the countless issues which these cleaners had.

I must tell you also that the very last of the 612 cleaners were designed in the same way as the 616 was, with no handle in the bag door and also having the 616 style on /off switch which, as you will tell, is a lot softer as it is a one-piece unit with only the cap as a separate part, unlike on the original 600's which had the two-piece cap assembly and the large, trusty "arrow" brand switch underneath (same switch Electrolux used for goodness only knows how many years on practically all their cleaners). There is a "clunking" sensation when pressing this switch, unlike the 616 where it feels very much like a Dyson switch.


Post# 254524 , Reply# 36   10/29/2013 at 15:13 (3,824 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
they both look awsome

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would love to have a 600 in my collection, though the 500's are my favourite ElectroluxSmile, the 600's seem to be really heavy for some reason 


Post# 254525 , Reply# 37   10/29/2013 at 15:14 (3,824 days old) by RootCyclone (East Midlands,UK.)        

Nice additions, Alex! :D

Post# 257561 , Reply# 38   11/25/2013 at 16:50 (3,797 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Video of the 616

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Post# 257562 , Reply# 39   11/25/2013 at 16:57 (3,797 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
Video of the 612

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