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Post# 253777   10/24/2013 at 14:37 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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A number of people have asked me for pictures of the new Sirena. I consider it a viable alternative to the very expensive Rainbow. The Sirena is $895 at retail and is available at vac shops or online. I have used it extensively since I got it and find it to be at least the equal of a Rainbow E Series.
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Post# 253778 , Reply# 1   10/24/2013 at 14:38 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253779 , Reply# 2   10/24/2013 at 14:39 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253781 , Reply# 3   10/24/2013 at 14:40 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253782 , Reply# 4   10/24/2013 at 14:45 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253783 , Reply# 5   10/24/2013 at 14:47 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253785 , Reply# 7   10/24/2013 at 14:49 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253791 , Reply# 9   10/24/2013 at 16:00 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253792 , Reply# 10   10/24/2013 at 16:01 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253793 , Reply# 11   10/24/2013 at 16:02 (3,808 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253794 , Reply# 12   10/24/2013 at 16:03 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253795 , Reply# 13   10/24/2013 at 16:04 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253796 , Reply# 14   10/24/2013 at 16:05 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253797 , Reply# 15   10/24/2013 at 16:06 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253804 , Reply# 17   10/24/2013 at 16:32 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253805 , Reply# 18   10/24/2013 at 16:36 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253808 , Reply# 19   10/24/2013 at 16:39 (3,807 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I just LOVE water vacuums......
This does look like a good alternative to Rainbow......and the attachments look high quality.....the separator looks a lot different to me though... I'm looking at the water pan, it looks much different but trying to decide by looking it it if it's as easy to clean. I think if I didn't have my current rainbow I would definitely buy one of these. |
Post# 253812 , Reply# 20   10/24/2013 at 16:45 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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The water pan is VERY easy to clean, you can get a dish rag down the neck (like the New rainbow water pan introduced with the E series). The tall separator works like a charm, and with a washable HEPA filter, the Sirena fulfills all my expectations of what a water vacuum should be. As far as suction, on our electronic water lift gauge (used on the Assembly Lines at Tacony), it pulls 90 inches of lift on HI speed.
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Post# 253834 , Reply# 21   10/24/2013 at 19:45 (3,807 days old) by vacyume ()   |   | |
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This machine has two sets of hoses like the older model rainbows? Electrified for the power nozzle, and non-electric for the accessories? |
Post# 253842 , Reply# 23   10/24/2013 at 21:07 (3,807 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 253843 , Reply# 24   10/24/2013 at 21:36 (3,807 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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Will the AquaMate III PowerBrush work on the Sirena? Did Rexair manufacture the tools & electrified hose for Sirena? |
Post# 253846 , Reply# 25   10/24/2013 at 22:18 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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I don't mind the two hoses. Not a big fan of picking up liquid with any electrified hose. But then again, I started selling Rainbow vacuums in 1979 so they've always had two hoses until just very, very recently. I wouldn't say the Sirena is the equal of the new Anniversary Edition Rainbow (the current model) - but it is certainly a great value for people who wouldn't otherwise be able to afford a brand new Water Filtration vacuum. I think the Sirena will evolve as vac shops begin selling them. You could never sell them in regular retail stores, someone really needs to show the customer how to care for the machine. Current older model Rainbow owners are the perfect customer for a new Sirena and that makes it a win-win situation for vac shops that carry the machine.
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Post# 253862 , Reply# 26   10/25/2013 at 02:08 (3,807 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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one hose on the new Black Rainbow.......
When you're using the dusting brush, the actual HANDLE itself kind of would get in the way, as opposed to the regular wand only. plus I like having the 30 foot non electric hose so I can get high and low. It's cool to have only one hose for everything, but with my current Epic 6500 and my Kenmore canister that I had in the past, both have only one hose, and when it's time to dust, I couldn't do nearly as well dusting because of that big handle as I can with just the non electric wand hose on the Rainbow... So if I ever do get the black Rainbow, I would keep this 30 foot non electric hose to use anyway. So for me, two hoses are better than just the one. |
Post# 253886 , Reply# 30   10/25/2013 at 08:26 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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I haven't used the non-electric hose yet. I use the electric hose for everything. The dusting brush fits on the end of the electric hose and the bare floor brush fits the electric wand. Yes, you do have to unplug the cord from the hose handle to use the attachments on it, but that's not a deal breaker for me. The telescopic wand is about the same weight as the two Rainbow wands, so it's not really any added weight. I love the fact that the bare floor brush stores on the machine, so using it isn't like going back to the closet to get it (like on the old Rainbows).
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Post# 253888 , Reply# 31   10/25/2013 at 08:50 (3,807 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 253897 , Reply# 32   10/25/2013 at 11:39 (3,807 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Post# 253936 , Reply# 33   10/25/2013 at 19:39 (3,806 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 253939 , Reply# 34   10/25/2013 at 20:40 (3,806 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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I ask the Sirena company on facebook where they are being made they told me in china:/ under strict supervision |
Post# 254271 , Reply# 35   10/28/2013 at 06:02 (3,804 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 254278 , Reply# 36   10/28/2013 at 07:27 (3,804 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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Does this mean they make sure the little slave children get to pick two of the best carrots out of a pile a the end of the 18 hour work day? |
Post# 308767 , Reply# 38   12/14/2014 at 00:34 (3,392 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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this thread because I'm REALLY thinking of buying one of these. I also notice that a vacuum shop here in Lexington called A-1 Vacuums (I think) if I remember correctly, is a dealer and they sell them, so I can just go there and buy one if I decide to. I'm not giving up my Rainbow Gold 2 speed because I love it....but this looks so cool and water vac's are my favorite type of vacuums (can't explain the clean feeling after using one so I won't rant on about that) and this is not horribly expensive in comparison to the rest of them. No, I don't need it but I still want it. :)
Brand new Hyla's, OceanBlue's, ProAqua's, Rainbow's are all MUCH more expensive yet this looks very close to all of them.....at 895 dollars. I never really thought of myself as a vacuum collector (LOL).. but now I have 3 vaccums.. Shark Naviagor pro lift away, Rainbow, and Epic 6500. |
Post# 308772 , Reply# 39   12/14/2014 at 04:14 (3,392 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I always have a Good laugh when I hear people worried about quality from China. Did you know Mercedes Benz has a manufacturing plant in Beijing ? Would you call a Mercedes Low quality ? No . Now why is it that its not a low quality product if Mercedes makes their cars their but if a vacuum company makes or assembles their vacuum in a Their own factory but it is in China its Poor quality ? I just got my hands on my first Hoover air, Made in China , very nice quality much better quality than my Hoover windtunnel's and my Hoover elite and those were made were??? Oh mmm in USA. MMMMMM I think you guys need to get over your made in China Phobia. a Good quality product can be made anywhere in the world
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Post# 308781 , Reply# 40   12/14/2014 at 07:28 (3,392 days old) by Kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Most of the phobia comes from many who collect vacuums yet don't even know how to repair their vacuums I've heard of one person who can barely change a belt yet touts they are an expert . China makes many quality products , all a company has to do is pay China for quality .
You and I know a quality product because we take things apart to explore vacuums thats how I learned how to fix vacuums at 5 years old . I have never had to ask anyone how do I fix this . You have been in research and development and own a successful vacuum cleaner business so you my friend are the authority when it comes to quality vacuums . I have come to the conclusion that China bashing will continue but this will not stop companies from using China to manufacture their products . It's just like when Japanese cars came to the U.S. everyone swore they were garbage now all you see are many Japanese cars on the road . Look out Chinese cars are on their way to the good ole USA ... Dan |
Post# 308785 , Reply# 42   12/14/2014 at 08:46 (3,392 days old) by Kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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To the American consumer a huge percentage want vacuums that cost $30.00 they can't see that if you buy high end quality vacuum they last a lifetime .
Most of This generation does not care about quality they just throw it out and buy a new one and you have these consumers expecting to pay $30.00 for a vacuum how can a company in the US make products to meet their price range ? This is where China has stepped in to fill the consumers desire of inexpensive products . Planned obsolescence is how companies survive so until consumers change their minds China made products are here to stay . Dan |
Post# 308795 , Reply# 43   12/14/2014 at 12:31 (3,392 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 308809 , Reply# 44   12/14/2014 at 15:47 (3,391 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Question about the PN on Sirena -
A lot of folks did not like the PN that Rainbow's had on the E series E2. I remember reading several people on this forum say it wasn't a very good PN because it's designed choked off airflow, and that the prior Rainbow Square PN was better, and now the newest black PN is best.......So the least favorite PN seemed to be the Brown e series pictures here out of all the Rainbow PN's, which is the PN I have, but I've never disliked it myself. Now, what about the PN on the Sirena? I only ask because it looks very similar to the brown E series PN. I wonder if it has better airflow at the head of the PN than the e series PN pictured?
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Post# 308824 , Reply# 45   12/14/2014 at 18:39 (3,391 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)   |   | |
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I would say it does based on the open design |
Post# 308832 , Reply# 46   12/14/2014 at 19:33 (3,391 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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The design of the Sirena powerhead looks good, like they avoided a design that compromised airflow like Rainbow did. But I highly doubt it would groom carpets well if the brushroll bristles are horsehair....I tried a Fuller Brush canister a couple of years ago that had horsehair brushroll bristles, & you could BARELY feel the brushroll touching the carpet.
Also, to me, the design of the Sirena looks cheap to me in some respects, like how the separator & spyder are designed. I also don't like how the tools are placed in the dolly, annoying design to me, they should have made a tool caddy that attaches to canister like Rainbow did for the E Series & D4. Rob |
Post# 308833 , Reply# 47   12/14/2014 at 19:49 (3,391 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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thanks for letting me know about the PN. I didn't realize the brush roll was made of horse hair...I also am not sure I'm loving the look of the separator. I would like to touch it and examine it in person. The rainbow separator is so small and nice and so easy to clean. But this doesn't look that bad. I dunno........still pondering it.
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Post# 309122 , Reply# 48   12/18/2014 at 01:10 (3,388 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Went to the local vac shop A1 Vacuums in Lexington. They were out of stock and had to order one. Said it would be here Fri or Monday. There are 3 dealers local to me that sell this. One in my city and 2 in the suburbs. Both mom/pop local vac shops. I also notice Goodvac.com sells it and all the parts on their website...I'm certainly not getting rid of my Rainbow but this will be neat to own :)
www.goodvac.com/Sirena_Vacuum_Par... |
Post# 309658 , Reply# 49   12/22/2014 at 20:49 (3,383 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I get this today. Brand new unit. I unpacked it and everything was there except for the 32 oz bottle of deodorizer and the 4 pack of scents. This machine is NOT the quality of a Rainbow! The hoses are good quality, and the stainless wands are easy to use and not too heavy, but the stainless steel seems a little less quality than the Rainbow stainless wands. The dolly feels cheap to me. I LOVE the PN! That's my favorite part of this vacuum. It has great airflow at the head (better than my brown E series PN)
I'm really confused about a few things though! A) there is no airflow control on the curved wand. Why? B) The hepa exhaust cover has ZERO vents. No air can get out of the exhaust with the hepa exhaust cover on. Is this a sealed unit? I only ask because, when running on high power, and the hepa exhaust in place, there are two vents on the top side of the machine that I can feel a little air coming out of, but only if the hepa exhaust cover is on. C) When I added scent to the basin, during cleaning, all I could smell was the new motor smell. I couldn't smell anything I put in the basin. I thought that was weird. D) The bottom of this unit during cleaning has more area exposed to water, so cleanup isn't as easy as Rainbow. It seems to glide on my carpet easily and weights just a wee bit less than the Rainbow...The separator was visibly dirty after me cleaning for 2 hours, but the water wasn't that dirty because I clean a lot. Basin was easy enough to clean. I can't get the separator off without using that tool. Overall it's ok for those who don't want to pay for a rainbow, I hope that new motor smell goes away... |
Post# 309703 , Reply# 50   12/23/2014 at 10:09 (3,383 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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The new motor smell will go away. I use my Sirena (which was one of the first sold) two or three times to week to dust in the Vacuum Museum. I use the mulberry fragrance from Rainbow in it. The exhaust air escapes through the vents on the sides of the machine, like it did on the first E series Rainbows. I too love the power head. VERY quiet. It's much easier to clean the open top pan. The attachments are virtual copies of the Rainbow attachments. For 1/3 the price of a Rainbow, I can deal with slightly less quality. The separator is easy to clean, it's the same separator the Ocean Blue uses.
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Post# 309944 , Reply# 51   12/26/2014 at 08:25 (3,380 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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You're right. I have used it several times now and the new smell is pretty much gone. I could smell the D/A I put in. I guess since it's new at first it was a little awkward to me, the differences, but once I've gotten a little used to it i'm not disliking it as much as I did at first. It does do a REALLY good job just like the rainbow....I'm a little concerned about the dolly the way it attaches to it feels a little fragile to me (maybe it's durable), I don't know. The way you have to put it in front first, then back, then it clips. And that little rubber area that surrounds the separator is harder to clean than the rainbow, but all in all, this is a good vacuum as long as nothing breaks like the clips or dolly. I took the hepa filter off just to see what the other side looked like, look really clean so I guess the separator is doing its job. I say this because I vacuumed out my bagless canister bin using the Sirena and cleaned 3 other times doing different things and I could see no dust on the hepa at all. I like how you can see the water action in this better than my 2 speed gold rainbow.
That said, I still like Rainbow better.......but this would be perfect for someone who really wants a rainbow but can't afford it. I wonder why it doesn't have the certifications that Rainbow has since it has the hepa and is water filtration? I know it says it's allergy friendly certified. |