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Post# 252245   10/7/2013 at 10:10 (3,825 days old) by bvac6 (Fort Wayne, Indiana)   |   | |
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Post# 252272 , Reply# 1   10/7/2013 at 14:59 (3,825 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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I have both. All the different fantoms, and the Kenmore Dry Tech. I'm waiting for them to get even older, as the price keeps going up and up and up. Once the price is 'right', they'll all say "cheese girls" and go on the flea bay. The rarest to find is the Johnson Wax's "Vectron" which was the very first Fantom ever - predates the Thunder design by 2 years. I have two of them.
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Post# 252317 , Reply# 2   10/7/2013 at 23:35 (3,824 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 252359 , Reply# 3   10/8/2013 at 14:59 (3,824 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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Amway vacuums were a disaster from the start. They use a GS single fan 7 amp motor (like a Dirt Devil that uses type C bags). Not enough airflow to make the cyclones work properly. There's no shroud, since Amway STOLE Dyson's design before he invented the shroud, went to Bissell who said they'd make it for Scamway, and built it without James' help at all. That's why it's a terrible cyclonic, fills the pre-motor filter with dirt AND hair/fluff, loses suction within minutes, and hasn't enough suction to deep clean well. The airflow through the vacuum is terrible. However, they are more rare than Fantoms since they cost almost $600 about 25 years ago. Finding a good one, undamaged, is difficult. And they are a pain to work on. I wish there was some redeeming quality to them, but there just isn't. The fact that James had to sue them, and took five years to collect anything, is proof that I don't want anything to do with that company. I won't even have a Scamway vacuum in the collection.
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Post# 329992 , Reply# 5   7/24/2015 at 07:29 (3,170 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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AmwayClearTrak....If a company has to lie, cheat & steal another company's ideas just to come out with their own vacuum, that's EXACTLY what Amway should be called....Scamway. Leave Tom alone, all he is doing is telling the TRUTH about how Amway really is. It just so happens to be that you don't like it, since it's your favorite vacuum brand & your parents work for them. As for how easy it is to take apart & repair, or about the Amway's cleaning ability, your opinion is merely that....an opinion. And I would trust Tom's opinion over yours, he DID own a vacuum shop & has the museum, so he's seen everything out there & knows what works....and more importantly, what does NOT work.
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Post# 330011 , Reply# 6   7/24/2015 at 10:04 (3,170 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)   |   | |
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The shroud is a very important part of the entire system. Since amway stole Dyson's design BEFORE he invented the shroud, this important feature was never incorporated. The motor in the amway is the same motor that Dirt Devil used in their first uprights that took the type C bag. It's true, I have ZERO respect for amway as a company. Having worked on a number of CMS and Clear Trak machines, and having both in the collection, I can see the tremendous number of flaws in the design. If you compare the amway cleaner to the very first production model Dyson, launched eight years after the THEFT of Mr. Dyson's patents by amway, you can see the machine that the amway was supposed to be. Mr. Dyson has continued to improve the cyclonic vacuum cleaner - yet the amway remains the same outdated machine it always was. To have no HEPA exhaust filter in 2015 is inexcusable. That's one reason amways belch dust - every single one of them I've ever seen have been filthy in the motor compartment. amway stole an incomplete design and never bothered to improve it. Typical of scam artists.
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Post# 330023 , Reply# 7   7/24/2015 at 13:18 (3,170 days old) by AmwayClearTrak (ㅤ)   |   | |
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Are you sure that the Amway vacuums use 7 amp motors? Look at this VHS video I uploaded. Skip to 6:45 in the video. Also If you want to, you can watch the whole video. |
Post# 330143 , Reply# 11   7/26/2015 at 01:42 (3,168 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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I didn't know about Amway and vacuums-this is the first I had seen of them.After seeing their website-now know more. |
Post# 330149 , Reply# 12   7/26/2015 at 05:27 (3,168 days old) by AmwayClearTrak (ㅤ)   |   | |
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Did you watch the whole CMS-1000 video tolivac? If you watch the video it will help you understand more about the Amway vacuums. |
Post# 330153 , Reply# 13   7/26/2015 at 06:11 (3,168 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Yes,I'll take my Kirby!The video was noisey-some parts hard to copy.Now I am sort of confused--Does Amway still sell vacuums to their customers? |
Post# 330224 , Reply# 15   7/27/2015 at 02:36 (3,167 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Good thing about the Cleartrack machines-they are built in the US!!So--they are still around-just in a different brand. |
Post# 330256 , Reply# 16   7/27/2015 at 13:30 (3,167 days old) by AmwayClearTrak (ㅤ)   |   | |
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Thats what I like about these Amway vacuums. Since there made in the USA they are durable, last longer, and have better performance then some of todays "made in China" vacuums. |