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Hoover Fun with John Part 2
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Post# 249907   9/11/2013 at 21:54 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Today, Wednesday, I went back down to Sweeper Central to pay a visit to John Gregory. I brought him a black Hoover Legacy that needed servicing and I also brought him a practically new Self Propelled WindTunnel from 1999 to sell to him. It broke my heart to part with that vacuum, but keeping gas in the car is more of a priority. 

 

After checking out the WindTunnel and agreeing on a price, John set to work fixing my Legacy before setting up a slew of fun photographs! I'm quite certain that many of the machines in the following photos haven't been seen before from his collection. 

 

Also, something that I think is pretty neat, while John had to go upstairs to one of the other offices in his building, a customer came into the store looking for a vacuum. Not wanting to see someone stand around for 5 minutes while John was tending to other business, I asked them what they were looking for, and long story short, I helped seal the sale of the very last Hoover Lightweight Commercial (Elite style) that John had in stock. Sadly, this machine was discontinued a few months ago, so that cleaner is pretty special. 

 

Now for the photos! 

 

On the left is my Legacy, according to John it's the first model from the early 90s. On the right, is a customer's machine that is the last model of Legacy from the mid to late 90s. 

 

In essence, we have the alpha and the omega of Legacies, the first and the last. 


Post# 249908 , Reply# 1   9/11/2013 at 21:55 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Next John poses with a blue Celebrity canister from the Hoover vault. To his left is a Model 918 Commercial that belongs to a woman in the neighborhood who still uses it religiously. It just received a thorough tuneup. To his right, is a near pristine late model Dial a Matic. 


Post# 249909 , Reply# 2   9/11/2013 at 21:57 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Now a red Celebrity also from the Vault. 


Post# 249910 , Reply# 3   9/11/2013 at 21:58 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Now an absolutely MINT Constellation


Post# 249912 , Reply# 4   9/11/2013 at 21:59 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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A closeup of that beautiful 918


Post# 249915 , Reply# 5   9/11/2013 at 22:04 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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He's no stranger to the Ranger! Plus a Guardsman. 


Post# 249916 , Reply# 6   9/11/2013 at 22:06 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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A salute to the 80s


Post# 249917 , Reply# 7   9/11/2013 at 22:07 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Fred Nelson's 707 that he sold to John. This thing runs FLAWLESSLY. 


Post# 249918 , Reply# 8   9/11/2013 at 22:08 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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How's this for a rare bird?

 


Post# 249919 , Reply# 9   9/11/2013 at 22:09 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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JCPenney vault Convertible anyone?


Post# 249920 , Reply# 10   9/11/2013 at 22:10 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Now an incredibly rare promotional model from 1976 in near MINT condition. 


Post# 249921 , Reply# 11   9/11/2013 at 22:12 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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A salute to the 70s


Post# 249922 , Reply# 12   9/11/2013 at 22:13 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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A possible promotional model commercial cleaners. 


Post# 249923 , Reply# 13   9/11/2013 at 22:14 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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John and his prized Guardsman that is in mint condition. 


Post# 249924 , Reply# 14   9/11/2013 at 22:15 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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A glorious past and a promising future. TTI has really stepped up their game on the Hoover line. I own the model of machine that's on the left and I truly am impressed with it. 


Post# 249925 , Reply# 15   9/11/2013 at 22:17 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Of course, we had to get a photo or two of the current power nozzle canisters for our Rob Shore (AKA Zippy!)


Post# 249926 , Reply# 16   9/11/2013 at 22:18 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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And another model


Post# 249927 , Reply# 17   9/11/2013 at 22:18 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Closeups of the PNs for Zippy!


Post# 249928 , Reply# 18   9/11/2013 at 22:19 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Another one


Post# 249929 , Reply# 19   9/11/2013 at 22:21 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Bagged machines really do rule the roost at Sweeper Central


Post# 249930 , Reply# 20   9/11/2013 at 22:22 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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These are as close to a Convertible as you're going to get. They even sound the same!


Post# 249931 , Reply# 21   9/11/2013 at 22:26 (3,850 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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And in conclusion, a group shot. 

 

My black Legacy sounds and works as nicely as it did the day it left the factory. 

 

John also insisted that I leave with a beautiful Elite 350 from 1991 and two SteamVacs that got left behind by neglectful owners. 


Big thanks for the time, conversation, and cleaners! Most certainly a very enjoyable morning at Sweeper Central! 


Post# 249937 , Reply# 22   9/11/2013 at 23:01 (3,850 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Looks like you two had a great time!!!

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Sweeper Central does have a very nice showroom of machines over there. It is neat to see Hoovers of nearly all generations and models not seen anywhere else.

Glad to see that John got your Legacy working well again. They are good cleaners.
Thank you for posting of the new power nozzle canisters. Definitely different designs. The navy blue Envy Hush appears to have the same power nozzle as the current model cyclonic bagless Whisper Zen and MultiCyclonic canisters as can be found in Target. Very lightweight, smaller packaged power nozzle. Probably very good for those homes that are about 75% hard surface floors with a few area rugs.

The Quiet Force looks more full sized. TTI seems to not like the headlight idea. The Maytag version power nozzles of the original Windtunnel, Futura, and PowerMax heads, with exception of the the BOL Encore Supreme styled power head with single brush agitator, all had headlights. The TTI power heads such as the very nice looking head that comes on the red cyclonic SH40055 or green SH40050 do not have headlights but otherwise those power heads look like they pack a big punch. It's a shame that TTI doesn't like headlights, as it makes tight hallways, under bed and furniture cleaning so easy!! It's one thing I plan to talk with FilterQueen about as well when I get the chance to visit them in Ohio in a few months.

For John Gregory and any vacuum manufacturers reading this: I do wish that manufacturers would also consider a canister vacuum with separate, fully functional independant tools again. Yes I realize the belief about smaller packages, saving costs, and convenience. While there is some convenience to an all in one tool, it quickly becomes inconvenient when it limits the ability for user to clean something more thoroughly and reach more places. The approximate 5" long crevice tool on the previous Windtunnel Anniversary canister although its own separate tool was designed to be essentially USELESS!! It just can't reach behind, under and inside things like the longer one on the previous Windtunnel canister which I could easily clean refrigerator coils with.
Despite not being too fond of its power head, I appreciate the Panasonic MC-CG902 canister vacuum for having 4 full sized on board tools!!! I also appreciate the FilterQueen Majestic for that as well. The FilterQueen allows user to attach hose handle directly to wand or power head which makes stair cleaning and upholstery very easy.


Post# 249940 , Reply# 23   9/11/2013 at 23:20 (3,850 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        
Nice Celebrity's!!

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Very interesting how that tool garden is arranged on the blue Hoover Celebrity. I've been checking out photos in vintage ads that I've seen for them. The pattern I've found most often is: dusting brush in front right, bare floor brush immediately behind and upholstery nozzle on left. This arrangement would be from looking at machine from the front side.

It's not labeled on the machine what goes where, but my observation over the last few days, is that if not positioned a certain way, the attachments can interfere with how well the machine stands up. I also don't want to break anything upon opening unit to check bag.

I caught a glimple of the red and white model, several months back in a post that John Long had of a visit to John Gregory's store. It is unfortunate that despite my interest and curiousity of some machines found in photos of that post regarding a commercial Legacy, that some harsh things were said towards me that put a bad taste in a mouth. Internet photos give only so much contrast. The greater details and construction can only be experienced in real life.

I love supporting a local economy and hoping small business owners. I'm glad that you are getting great service and having fun learning about other machines at the store. It is always good to feel appreciated as a customer and getting respect. There is a diner in NE Philadelphia area that my family used to have lots of dinners at. Tremendous portions, good food, very nice atmosphere and plethora of menu options. I have a passion for Chicken Parmesan and there's was FANTASTIC. Unfortunately the wait staff was quite unpleasant and didn't seem to give a crap. Since we generally ate there as a party of 9+ people, an 18% gratuity was automatic, perhaps maybe that's why they didn't care as much. They soon lost our business!!


Post# 249942 , Reply# 24   9/11/2013 at 23:43 (3,850 days old) by tylerawells (-)        

I really like the looks of that Quiet Force but have never seen it on the Hoover Website or anywhere else until it was posted here. Are there certain models of Hoover machines sold only in their dealerships?


Post# 249958 , Reply# 25   9/12/2013 at 07:03 (3,849 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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OMG Id just sit in a corner and be like a kid in a sweet shop!

Post# 249995 , Reply# 26   9/12/2013 at 15:21 (3,849 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
John Gregory

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has one of the nicest stores I have ever been in .

Plus he has the MOST knowledge about Hoover vacuums PERIOD he is a wonderful friend .

As soon as I get some time I will post all the gift`s I have received from John .

Dan


Post# 250085 , Reply# 27   9/13/2013 at 12:53 (3,848 days old) by sbnhvlvr (South Bend, IN)        

Here the link to the hoover.com page and the Quiet Force Canister Vacuum. Looks pretty nice for $299.99



CLICK HERE TO GO TO sbnhvlvr's LINK


Post# 250100 , Reply# 28   9/13/2013 at 17:05 (3,848 days old) by funvacfan (Canada)        
Wow

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I sure do like that Lark in the last picture! Not something I see too regularly.

Guy


Post# 250261 , Reply# 29   9/15/2013 at 09:43 (3,846 days old) by vacuumman206 ()        

Your Hoover legacy (750 or 780?) is the 2nd to last BOL model. The 730, the only no-on-board attachment Legacy model was the BOL and consequently the vacuum I am set on finding. Very nice vault collection too, wish my vac guy was more enthusiastic about what he does!

Post# 250402 , Reply# 30   9/16/2013 at 16:23 (3,845 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I'm so happy Hoover has revamped their canister line. It actually looks great. Glad to see bagged canisters that look like they're a real step up from the "anniversary model" canister.

Post# 250457 , Reply# 31   9/17/2013 at 14:32 (3,844 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Looks like

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I will be adding a Quiet force to my collection along with many other Hoover goddies from John Gregorys Sweeper Central . I will be making a trip to Pa very soon ;)

Dan


Post# 250482 , Reply# 32   9/17/2013 at 19:26 (3,844 days old) by PoconoVacMan (Northeast Pennsylvania)        

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Dan, when you do, let me know :) I'd love to meet you at the store. John has so many wonderful things to say about you!


Post# 250535 , Reply# 33   9/18/2013 at 16:01 (3,843 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Matt

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same here I hear nothing but great things about you .

It might be near the end of October once Real Estate slows down.

John is the expert of Hoover and I know lots about all high end machines ;)

Dan


Post# 251311 , Reply# 34   9/25/2013 at 17:25 (3,836 days old) by kittingerhoover ()        
Rare Bird :)

That rare bird used to belong to me. I am glad to see John Gregory loving it and displaying it.


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