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Post# 248895   9/3/2013 at 01:59 (3,880 days old) by vegassucks ()        

My new favorite Sebo is the Sebo 370 Comfort. I do not own one yet but love the fact that it has the brush adjustment of the G1 and a 2 motor system.

Post# 248915 , Reply# 1   9/3/2013 at 08:03 (3,880 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Brushroll switch

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I don't know if they changed this with the comfort but my older 370 lacks a brush on/off control if i recall the only thing that does shut off the brush is either putting the vacuum upright or removing the wand i always found this kind of annoying as i will use my uprights on my hard flooring as well if they have the option.

Post# 248937 , Reply# 2   9/3/2013 at 09:45 (3,880 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The new one has a brush roll on/off. It is a very quiet upright. In terms of handling, I find they're just about the same with the original Sebo X1 Auto.

Personally I think that was one reason to why SEBO designed the ET-1 floor head for the Felix and Dart commercial version - it naturally accents the L shape of the 370 and the previous X2 & X3 commercial uprights.


Post# 249032 , Reply# 3   9/4/2013 at 07:13 (3,879 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

The Sebo 370 Comfort does not have a brush roll on\off. The brushroll only turns off when the cleaner is in the upright position and switches on when the handle is lowered to the operating position. The same goes for the BS36 and BS46 Comfort machines available in the UK.

Post# 249045 , Reply# 4   9/4/2013 at 10:51 (3,879 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Sorry Roger, you're right. I should have made that clearer. It is what I meant!

Post# 249127 , Reply# 5   9/4/2013 at 21:03 (3,879 days old) by mieles7 (TX)        

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I'm a big fan of the Windsor version of that vac.

 

(Versamatic if anyone wanted to know)


Post# 249134 , Reply# 6   9/4/2013 at 21:44 (3,879 days old) by vegassucks ()        
Versamatic

Not sure which I like better. Probably the Sebo name because is would be more rare in the United States. Also thinking aout Sebo K3 or D4, both built like a tank.

Post# 249172 , Reply# 7   9/5/2013 at 12:40 (3,878 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I have a K3 Premium and I can't stand it. Its a great vacuum with a suction only floor head. When the power head is attached, its far too heavy. Far prefer having the electronic hose with the suction control slider and a lighter floor head on the end.

Sadly the electrics are the main problem with the SEBO K3's = the pigtail connection between the hose and the electric tubes are the main culprits. I have never owned a D4 (and still wouldn't) so I dont know what they are like - but I do have a K1 Pet (non-PN model) and a D2 Total (non-PN model) and both are pretty good and very durable.


Post# 249179 , Reply# 8   9/5/2013 at 13:02 (3,878 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Windsor

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Hey Ian, that's actually the versamatic Plus Which has a different exahaust set up and wand set up there are probably other differences as well

This is the Versamatic. The hose should be white but the original white one cracked and was replaced with this lindhaus hose.


Post# 249187 , Reply# 9   9/5/2013 at 13:21 (3,878 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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They're known as the SEBO BS36 & 46 in the UK.



Post# 249190 , Reply# 10   9/5/2013 at 14:03 (3,878 days old) by vegassucks ()        
Sebo fan

I thought the problem with the K3 was. Resolved with the newer power heads? They are built like tanks compared to Miele.

Post# 249203 , Reply# 11   9/5/2013 at 18:16 (3,878 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I always knew SEBO power heads had easily-replaceable brush rolls, but I never knew they had a model with easily-replaceable brush strips! Who is the target market for the 370/Versamatic? The $700 they ask for one new is not that bad compared to other high-end machines. The TOL Miele S7 sells for hundreds more. 


Post# 249216 , Reply# 12   9/5/2013 at 21:36 (3,878 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The 370 & Versamatic is for the commercial field only. I only know of a few domestic homes that have these uprights as opposed to the X/Sensor based models and of course the X4, X5 etc. Miele's model may well be more expensive but that doesn't mean its fit for purpose in that type of industry. I think Miele should consider commercial vacuums though, but I think they just leave it up to the likes of SEBO, Karcher etc to fill that niche.

A Sebo BS36 for example in the UK has a general price of £330 compared to a Miele S7 at £249 to £300. SEBO also sell a permanent washable dust bag for the BS series.

Vegas - The ET1 and ETH are very similar with only a few differences. The pig tail problems still remain on the K series with the connection plug that slides into the bottom of the electronic handle before the main tube at the top. The tubes themselves have an additional electrical rod that slides down the back of the telescopic height adjustable part with a 2/3 pin connection already fitted at the bottom unlike the separate deal with the C series cylinder vacs. Thus, it has little to do with the actual power nozzle problems.

ET-1 has a brush roll on/off and manual adjustment. It is also slightly larger than the older ET-H.


Post# 249243 , Reply# 13   9/6/2013 at 09:21 (3,877 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

I own a Sebo C3.1 and D4 Premium and have never had any problems with the electric hoses, but then I am very careful with my vacuum cleaners. I used to own the K3 Premium and didn't have any problems with that either. I intend to get a new K3 Premium soon as it was one of my favourite Sebo cylinder cleaners. I didn't find it that heavy with the powerhead, it is certainly lighter than the D4 and C3.1. I really like the combination of a compact suction unit combined with a power head which is why I liked my Hoover Compact Total Systems so much.

Post# 249271 , Reply# 14   9/6/2013 at 16:38 (3,877 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well, I treat my vacuums like vacuums. But whilst I like the K series a lot, its a lighter vacuum than most, but with the ETH floor head added it adds more than 2kg onto the total weight. The K series was supposed to be a light cylinder vac by design. Also, IMHO the sooner SEBO get rid of the daft pull to pull auto cord rewind on the K series the better. I adore the old C vacs - a conventional pedal is far more reliable for the cord to rewind.

Post# 249315 , Reply# 15   9/7/2013 at 00:03 (3,876 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

The weight of the K3 Premium is lighter than the D4 Premium and C3.1 and is easier to pull around in use. Also the powerhead is considerably easier to push than a straight suction nozzle. For people with a smaller home who want the deep cleaning ability of a powerhead cylinder, the K3 Premium is a good choice in my opinion, especially since it's one of the few powerhead cleaners we can buy in the UK.

I like my C3.1 very much and in some ways I prefer it to the D4 Premium as it is more convenient to use and not so bulky. I prefer the tools stored behind a flap instead of on the back and I like the fact it uses the same bags as my G1 Professional. I also have a C1 straight suction cleaner BNIB which is another striking looking cleaner. I have plans to upload videos of my Sebo C series cleaners on YouTube soon and of course I will record the unboxing of the K3 Premium when I get my new one.


Post# 249316 , Reply# 16   9/7/2013 at 00:09 (3,876 days old) by vegassucks ()        
C3.1

The c3.1 has the best spec by far with an CFM rating of 170, that is amazing.


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