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Post# 247009   8/21/2013 at 20:24 (3,872 days old) by kenkart ()        

Who besides me uses straight suction machines more than anything else???

Post# 247125 , Reply# 1   8/22/2013 at 12:10 (3,871 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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I use them all the time. Mike Pupek (an early VCCC member) once told me you can a rug clean with straight suction, you just have to use enough time and the proper technique. The Apex Strato Rug tool, the Air-Way "Priscilla" rug tool, and the Filter Queen rug tools, are the best I've ever used, with the Compact rug tool coming in close to those top three.

Post# 247503 , Reply# 2   8/24/2013 at 14:56 (3,869 days old) by DaveTranter (Central England, U.K.)        
Straight suction

I do..... I don't have enough exposed floor to use anything else.... :(

All best

Dave T


Post# 247505 , Reply# 3   8/24/2013 at 15:20 (3,869 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
straight suction

I do sometimes. I like the Air-Way and the Rainbow Jet rug tool. My mom used her Air-Way 88 for over 45 years and you could not pull anything out of her thick carpets with any of my uprights. To be fair, she did sweep every day and used it at a slow pace and DID change the bag often. She had the Rugmaster tool but never used it.
Think of how many people would use a good Hoover Convertible BUT with a clogged paper bag so it was picking up the surface dirt and fluffing the nap-the rug looked clean and would have been clean if they would change the bags.
When we used to demo the Electrolux, If the customer pulled out a Hoover or Eureka upright with a packed bag ,you almost knew you would get a sale because they were so sure they had clean carpets.
It was not the fault of the upright, it was the fault of the user with the clogged bag.


Post# 247507 , Reply# 4   8/24/2013 at 15:43 (3,869 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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Almost NO ONE with a Hoover or Eureka "back in the day", used Genuine bags. They bought the Blue Luster bags at the grocery store or the dime store (am I dating myself by calling them 'dime stores') or Woolworths (OK, now I'm really dating myself). Those bags were terrible. Very thin single ply cellulose, they clogged within minutes. Yet no one changed them, because they didn't know any better.

When I was selling Rainbows (after High School), I always unzipped the outer bag of the upright I was demonstrating against. If it was a "bojack" (non genuine) bag, I KNEW I had a sale.


Post# 247509 , Reply# 5   8/24/2013 at 16:06 (3,869 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Dime store? Oh you mean the five and dime. Yes I remember.

Post# 247510 , Reply# 6   8/24/2013 at 16:26 (3,869 days old) by Electrolux137 (Los Angeles)        

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Our apartment is mostly hardwood floors, so I do a lot of straight-suction cleaning. We have one area rug in the living room about 8x10; the hallway leading to the bedrooms is carpeted; and Arlee's bedroom is carpeted. And that's it, well, other than some throw rugs here and there. Arlee does his room himself (sometimes...!) and I do the rest. I enjoy cleaning the hardwood floors but miss having lot of carpeting.



Post# 247512 , Reply# 7   8/24/2013 at 17:15 (3,869 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well for most members in the UK who love their cylinder vacs, we have to have straight suction since PN's aren't that popular. Of course you get some who use air driven turbo brushes. However I like using straight suction whenever I can as it is good for the carpet to have a mix of brush roll from time to time as opposed to all of the time.

Post# 247818 , Reply# 8   8/26/2013 at 15:53 (3,867 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana)        
I've used...

my GE roll-around pink and coral for almost 39 years and it will clean very well with the rug tool on carpet and area rugs.I'll hear a small rock of some sand go up the wands.So,it will clean deep with straight suction.
Michael


Post# 247875 , Reply# 9   8/27/2013 at 00:25 (3,867 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
In their defense ...

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... including my own dear mother ... back "in the day" Hoover Convertible users like our household DID buy replacement bags from the grocery store, but even the non-"genuine" Hoover bags still showed the Hoover "H" and said they "fit" her make and model.

Most consumers didn't know there was a difference between "genuine" Hoover bags and the ones that showed the Hoover logo but were not the real thing.

And where would one FIND the genuine bags, if not at their local stores? This was the 1970's. It's not like they could have looked it up online.

By the way, we called those "variety" stores the "Five and Ten". :)


Post# 247876 , Reply# 10   8/27/2013 at 00:28 (3,867 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Yep!

Post# 247887 , Reply# 11   8/27/2013 at 03:23 (3,866 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)        

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i primarily use straight suction for hard floors, vehicle carpeting, small rugs and dusting. i tried vacuuming my carpet with my first connie soon after i got it, and though good, just cant compare to a brushroll or beatbar upright or power head. cannisters are great machines for small rugs too.

ive found, from non colletors, back in the era i enjoy vacs from (mid 50's - early 1980's) most people had both and upright and a cannister. it was not uncommon for a home owner to have a hoover convertible, and connie in the same home for example, since both do well at jobs the other cant. so far the only vacuum ive used that could clean straight suction on a wall to wall carpet even close to a pn or brushrolled upright is a lux with the flip tool or a kirby. but these machines are dual purpose, and not straight suction only.... my connies, swingette and slimline after are found with less heavy duties than the convertibles, kirby's and pn luxes i own. still used frequently and do thier job well, just not entire home cleaning..

Will Hemb


Post# 247925 , Reply# 12   8/27/2013 at 11:48 (3,866 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

I'm not a fan of straight suction for carpets. I find power nozzles/uprights do a far better job with a lot less effort.

Not vintage, but I've just Hoovered through with my 'new' Aquajet, and as the suctions so strong I was heaving the thing about to get it over the carpet. It also missed bits and took a few passes. The miele or even my 875 gets pretty much everything up first pass.

Straight suction all the way for hard floors though!


Post# 247930 , Reply# 13   8/27/2013 at 12:43 (3,866 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I suppose it comes down to how you feel at the time - I mean, its not as if we are mere consumers with ONE vacuum cleaner to satisfy the whole home. Usually if I am not up to my usual fastidious cleaning routine of vacuuming three times a week, I tend to just leave it every two weeks. That means when the dirt builds up, I simply take any one of the vacuums with a long cord and get around the whole home. Usually by then after huffing and puffing in the garden, taking care of the usual day to day business, coping with bills, tidying all the paper work, doing the day job and leaving it up to the weekend, its a quick sprite around the home with the quickest vacuum - a brush roll may well be "faster" on carpet but I prefer using a canister vacuum with suction only - I can dust as "I go" as well as generally picking up the dust that has accumulated on soft furnishings - with just a hose, lightweight tubes and suction only floor head I've been surprised as to the amount of dust builds up in 2 weeks when leaving machines alone within that time period.

But then sometimes, if I want to I change onto the upright anyway!

However! When Im pet sitting, the matter changes completely - I have to use an upright then to where the dogs sit or if the budgies visit as well! Brush roll is definitely the way to go for pet hair accumulation.


Post# 247943 , Reply# 14   8/27/2013 at 14:31 (3,866 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
There are 11 rooms here

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Only 1 has wall to wall carpeting. the others have Oriental rugs and hardwood, tile, or marble floors. HOOVER uprights are always at- the -ready, and< I have a Connie, Slimline, etc at hand for all hard surfaces.
AS far as "genuine " bags.... we always used them. I cleaned out old drawers and foudf half-used packs of "C" bags used by my late mother.
Also, my late father was a manager for the F. W. Woolworth Co, and my mom was a book keeper. They met at the 'soda fountain'. i STILL have the 2 little (very badly scratched now) Coke A Cola glasses from way back in the 1950s. They and the store are gone, but, I still have those 2 little pony size glasses.


Post# 247949 , Reply# 15   8/27/2013 at 15:10 (3,866 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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At my shop we use straight suction in the workshop area, But in the showroom we have 100sqm of that stick down blue industrial carpeting, The only way to clean that carpet is powerful straight suction, brush bars just wear out on it.

At home we use a Numatic harry in my sons room as it has a special vinyl floor with road patterns on it, and it matches the room.


Post# 248722 , Reply# 16   9/2/2013 at 00:37 (3,861 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        

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Can't say I use straight suction machines more than anything else, but I do use them quite frequently. When I clean out the car or truck, I use my 966 Electro-Hygiene tank, Royalaire 260, Westinghouse cannister, or most recently, my Air-Way Sanitizor model 66. At the museum where I volunteer, they have indoor-outdoor carpet glued to a somewhat uneven floor, and I always use my 858 Hoover Constellation there.
Jeff


Post# 248735 , Reply# 17   9/2/2013 at 02:22 (3,860 days old) by cb123 (Mobile, Al.)        

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When it comes to the tassels on a Persian rug STRAIGHT suction is the only way to go! For this soul purpose a Eureka model 9 are 10 is better than a full bottle of gin - and yes, you may most definitely hold the tonic. Getty up!


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