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Thread Number: 21775
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| Post# 243548 , Reply# 1 8/3/2013 at 14:41 (3,911 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
2 stage, double ball bearing motors are still being made. Even for uprights (Simplicity 7850/Riccar 8955). The best vacuum motor (from the perspective of durability) today is the Rainbow brushless "Hurricane" motor. Carbon brush motors wear out proportionate to the cube of their speed. Double a motor's speed, and it wears out 8 times as fast (2 x 2 x 2 = 8). With modern vac motors, it's true that the high speed, single fan motors wear out faster - however, if you turn down the motor's speed (like you can with a Miele for example), you can achieve excellent cleaning and allow the motor to last a lot longer.
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| Post# 243555 , Reply# 4 8/3/2013 at 15:39 (3,911 days old) by vegassucks () | ||
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Riccar/Simplicity I was considering a Riccar/simplicity but the reviews for deep cleaning were poor. Surprised because they are built like tanks. | ||
| Post# 243558 , Reply# 5 8/3/2013 at 15:45 (3,911 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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Hey Mich
Here's a pic of the double stage, double ball bearing, repairable motor used in the Simplicity and Riccar vacuums. I heard about the Museum. From what I understand, the guy that works there is really a nice man, and some people would even say 'handsome'. He's really an expert when it comes to vacuums. Tacony is lucky to have him, he's irreplaceable.
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| Post# 243564 , Reply# 9 8/3/2013 at 16:30 (3,911 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 243588 , Reply# 13 8/3/2013 at 19:51 (3,911 days old) by dressur () | ||
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one last thing, what is the motor in an Electrolux with the sleds on the bottom made out of? cast aluminum or zinc? anyone know?? thanks. | ||
| Post# 243603 , Reply# 17 8/3/2013 at 23:39 (3,911 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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And the motor It was an"Upside down " motor, the air passed over the armature before entering the fan chamber, like a GE or AirWay motor.My hand shows how big the fan is! 
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| Post# 243604 , Reply# 18 8/3/2013 at 23:40 (3,911 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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Top View. 
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| Post# 243605 , Reply# 19 8/3/2013 at 23:46 (3,911 days old) by dressur () | ||
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Here is my favorite vacuum I own. This is what I call serious motor power. 
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| Post# 243606 , Reply# 20 8/3/2013 at 23:49 (3,911 days old) by dressur () | ||
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WOW!!!V that Apex is COOL!!! see these are my favorite style canisters | ||
| Post# 243608 , Reply# 21 8/3/2013 at 23:52 (3,911 days old) by dressur () | ||
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I want one of these 
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| Post# 243617 , Reply# 22 8/4/2013 at 00:01 (3,911 days old) by dressur () | ||
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Do you like the upside down motor design?? I don't have a GE vacuum motor don't know what they look like,, are they good too? | ||
| Post# 243677 , Reply# 24 8/4/2013 at 16:46 (3,910 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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I Have a GS-80 and a GS-90, they are great vacuums, Hard to find parts though. | ||
| Post# 243696 , Reply# 25 8/4/2013 at 17:25 (3,910 days old) by dressur () | ||
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yeah I guess cause they are foreign?? I hope they don't need parts. | ||
| Post# 243726 , Reply# 26 8/4/2013 at 20:42 (3,910 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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No, both of mine run great, Bags have to be ordered and are expensive and because the wands are an odd size, no attachments can be used but Nilfisk, I currently need an upholstery tool and crevice tool. | ||
| Post# 243737 , Reply# 28 8/4/2013 at 22:04 (3,910 days old) by dressur () | ||
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what about this vacuum setup. it is a Sebo and according to the pictorial aid goes through motor than fans,,, does anyone have a picture of the motor of this unit? thanks I want to learn all the different motors. 
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| Post# 244023 , Reply# 33 8/6/2013 at 05:51 (3,908 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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RE Nilfisk I guarantee there is no dust coming out of that thing!! One of the best filtering machines made. | ||
Post# 244027 , Reply# 34 8/6/2013 at 06:05 (3,908 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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There is comprehensive filtration in the Nilfisk-has the top mounted HEPA filter-and its pretty clean.How funny it was traded in for a Kirby-the Nilfisk would beat the Kirby in filtering-but the Kirby would beat the turbine powernozzle for performance. | ||
| Post# 244028 , Reply# 35 8/6/2013 at 06:18 (3,908 days old) by dressur () | ||
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I have an electrified hose and powernozzle for one of my Nilfisks, (the plastic one) and it really cleans and I have a Burmese cat and a dog, my carpet is clean. | ||
| Post# 244051 , Reply# 36 8/6/2013 at 10:09 (3,908 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 244152 , Reply# 37 8/6/2013 at 19:03 (3,908 days old) by dressur () | ||
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That's the one I would love to find... Mine are grey metal and one plastic. That is a beautiful machine. | ||
| Post# 244447 , Reply# 43 8/8/2013 at 12:52 (3,906 days old) by dressur () | ||
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One more thing regarding cords. I use a red Kirby cord. It has the IEC or DIN end like a computer, has a slit cut into it where a ground would be, it fits into my motor. I don't know what a new Nilfisk cord would cost,, and don't want to know :>) | ||
| Post# 244509 , Reply# 44 8/8/2013 at 15:27 (3,906 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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CR's opinion Regarding the cleaning performance of the Riccar Radiance, Consumer Reports gave it "Excellent" scores for (1) cleaning carpet, (2) cleaning bare floors, and (3) cleaning dog hair. I'm not sold on the idea of the tandem fans on the Radiance. I own a Simplicity 7 Series and it's an excellent vacuum. | ||
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