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Post# 239675   7/10/2013 at 15:43 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239676 , Reply# 1   7/10/2013 at 15:45 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239677 , Reply# 2   7/10/2013 at 15:46 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239678 , Reply# 3   7/10/2013 at 15:48 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239680 , Reply# 4   7/10/2013 at 15:50 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239681 , Reply# 5   7/10/2013 at 15:52 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239682 , Reply# 6   7/10/2013 at 15:54 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239683 , Reply# 7   7/10/2013 at 15:55 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239684 , Reply# 8   7/10/2013 at 15:57 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239685 , Reply# 9   7/10/2013 at 15:58 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239686 , Reply# 10   7/10/2013 at 16:01 (3,913 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239707 , Reply# 11   7/10/2013 at 18:16 (3,913 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 239720 , Reply# 12   7/10/2013 at 18:35 (3,913 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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Some of these would show up over here, I might have to install a 240 volt outlet! |
Post# 239725 , Reply# 13   7/10/2013 at 19:23 (3,913 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 239726 , Reply# 14   7/10/2013 at 19:44 (3,913 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 239733 , Reply# 16   7/10/2013 at 20:33 (3,913 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 239753 , Reply# 17   7/11/2013 at 02:16 (3,913 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Well, that's a good selection - 1972 was my birth year, and here is one of the models from that catalogue, the Electrolux 500 - this was very ahead of its time at its launch back then. |
Post# 239754 , Reply# 18   7/11/2013 at 02:18 (3,913 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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rear view of the 500, showing the yellow pedal and suction selector: |
Post# 239758 , Reply# 19   7/11/2013 at 03:58 (3,913 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Thank you very much for posting those catalogue pictures Anthony!
That 500 has stood up very well to 41 years of use! You are right that they were very ahead of their time, but lets not forget that had the Hoover Convertible (Dial-A-Matic in America) not been the failure it was in terms of sales, we'd be sitting here saying the same thing about that model and the Electrolux would just be seen as a copy of it. Since the Convertible didn't sell well at all and Electrolux were shrewd enough to see a good opportunity and jump on it (without all the gimmicks of the Convertible), they made it successful and most people assume they created the concept of a clean fan upright vacuum cleaner with the above floor cleaning power of a cylinder. Behind the Hoover Seniors and Juniors - the Lux 500 (and the other model variants that would follow) has to be the most popular and long running vacuum cleaner in the UK. It sold from 1970 to the mid 1990s (as the Twin Turbo) and is still in use today in Britains homes with enough spares available to keep them going for at least another decade. In close - A damn good vacuum cleaner! |
Post# 239760 , Reply# 20   7/11/2013 at 05:54 (3,912 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Post# 239775 , Reply# 22   7/11/2013 at 10:09 (3,912 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)   |   | |
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@Hans and Brian:
Do NOT install a Euro outlet permanently in your home. Its not CSA or UL approved and, if by some chance it causes a fire, they can refuse to honor your insurance. The best way to do it is to take a dryer cord, connect it to a small electric panel (2-15A breakers in the panel is all that's needed) mounted on a board and run the appropriate outlets from that. Far less likely to have any problems as its only connected to the dryer outlet when you are using it. Doug |
Post# 239785 , Reply# 23   7/11/2013 at 13:42 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239786 , Reply# 24   7/11/2013 at 13:45 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239789 , Reply# 25   7/11/2013 at 14:09 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239790 , Reply# 26   7/11/2013 at 14:23 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239792 , Reply# 27   7/11/2013 at 14:27 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239794 , Reply# 28   7/11/2013 at 14:40 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239795 , Reply# 29   7/11/2013 at 14:57 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239796 , Reply# 30   7/11/2013 at 14:59 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239798 , Reply# 31   7/11/2013 at 15:06 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239800 , Reply# 32   7/11/2013 at 15:07 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239810 , Reply# 33   7/11/2013 at 16:27 (3,912 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)   |   | |
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Post# 239818 , Reply# 34   7/11/2013 at 17:28 (3,912 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 239827 , Reply# 35   7/11/2013 at 18:08 (3,912 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Anthony
Thanks for taking the trouble to scan these - its great information. Note to readers though, the prices shown are NOT typical prices, catalogues (exception Argos) always have higher prices - its how they funded the "interest free" credit. In reply 27, I would date that from around 1985 or perhaps 1986 - that freedom model continued until that year, even in the "regular" Hoover range. I knew Doug would love to see those old Goblins badged as Spinney :) It was an arrangement they kept up into the Housemaid upright series :) As regards the 1966/67 Mid range (middle B) I would venture that to be by Siroma too as it has a designation only one up from the Siroma model. What looks to be the same model (at around the right price too) was tested by Which in 1968 but it was branded as Regina, as in the US company Regina, but manufactured in the UK. As for 1961, better get those glasses tested mate, as the only thing it has in common with the Connie is the hose! The style of tools shown were first seen on the 402 in 1948. When the 417 was introduced it has the "Aerodyne" style floor nozzle that the later Connie had as well as the familiar hard floor nozzle that carried on from the 638 onwards. From memory it had the same dusting nozzle too, although it did have an upholstery nozzle rather then the general purpose brush that was on the Connie 822 and 822a. When the Connie was introduced the 417 was "de-featured" becoming a much more budget model and it reverted back to the earlier style of tools although actually there was not much of a price difference between the two models. It was only the next series (the one shown is the 417E, the next one being 417G) that the tools were standardised with the rest of the range although its had a Hooverette style combo floor nozzle until the mid 1960s or so. At some point along the way the colour scheme was updated so the "G" was the same colour - the most obvious difference, apart from the tools, was the use of a red rocker switch in place of the step on switch. Speaking of Hooverette, for US readers this was our version of the later series Lark, only ours always had a handle and used a Dustette/Pixie sliding switch. Of course the thing that leaps out is that the Hoover range is virtually identicial, apart from styling differences between 1961 and 1972. The orange 427 is just an update of the earlier model 417. Although it looks superficially similar to the 427 Harlequin (the tartan one) they are completely different, the 427 being physically shorter than the 429. I could (and probably will!) rant on some more, but that's it for now. Thanks again Anthony Al |
Post# 239828 , Reply# 36   7/11/2013 at 18:10 (3,912 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 239847 , Reply# 37   7/11/2013 at 23:31 (3,912 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)   |   | |
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LOL Al - The picture of the Hoover tank is with the old parts but in the write up it says "The accessories with this cleaner are now the improved type shown and described with item C and not as illustrated with item B" I am assuming that they are referring to either the machine below (no its not mine - just from the web) or the blue version of it. One of them must have replaced the one pictured about that time but they didn't get the picture of it in time to go in the catalogue.
And you're right - I do like the Golden Spinney. Nice colour combination. Doug |
Post# 239850 , Reply# 38   7/12/2013 at 01:28 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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it was the description i was going on about i read it to say if you bought the Hoover cylinder you would get the tools displayed with the Connie and not the ones in the photo.On the page with the washingmachines did anyone notice the clothes horse with the heater in the bottom my mum had one in the winter she would remove the clothes horse and slide the heater under the beds to warm them bear in mind the beds were quite high up off the floor with steel bars and springs still quite a fire hazard i would have thought.Theres another cat from 1959 i has no photos just very nice drawings if anyone is interested
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Post# 239852 , Reply# 39   7/12/2013 at 01:35 (3,912 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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it was the description i was going on about i read it to say if you bought the Hoover cylinder you would get the tools displayed with the Connie and not the ones in the photo.On the page with the washingmachines did anyone notice the clothes horse with the heater in the bottom my mum had one in the winter she would remove the clothes horse and slide the heater under the beds to warm them bear in mind the beds were quite high up off the floor with steel bars and springs still quite a fire hazard i would have thought.Theres another cat from 1959 i has no photos just very nice drawings if anyone is interested
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Post# 239861 , Reply# 40   7/12/2013 at 03:20 (3,912 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Anthony,
My apologies, I was so blown away by the pictures I did not read the small print, but I have now :) Well that is partially true except that it had a shorter hose than the connie, no suction valve on the handle and as I say, the smaller Hooverette style combo nozzle, it was not until about 1968 or so that it got the "standard" size combo nozzle as shown in Doug's picture in the Smoked Pine/Swedish Green colour combo. The little wash boiler was by Burco of course, and I am not sure about the spinner, needs someone like ChesterMike to answer that one. Just following on from your excellent restoration of the Lux 64, I note there are plastic wands and hose handle on the 64 in 1963. AL |
Post# 239862 , Reply# 41   7/12/2013 at 03:21 (3,912 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 239868 , Reply# 42   7/12/2013 at 07:30 (3,911 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 239882 , Reply# 43   7/12/2013 at 13:03 (3,911 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239883 , Reply# 44   7/12/2013 at 13:09 (3,911 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239885 , Reply# 45   7/12/2013 at 13:16 (3,911 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239887 , Reply# 46   7/12/2013 at 13:26 (3,911 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 239912 , Reply# 47   7/12/2013 at 17:47 (3,911 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 241789 , Reply# 48   7/23/2013 at 20:32 (3,900 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 241821 , Reply# 49   7/23/2013 at 23:24 (3,900 days old) by chan55 (Green Bay, WI)   |   | |
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Was the Hotpoint related to our GE uprights? Sure look a lot alike. |
Post# 241870 , Reply# 50   7/24/2013 at 10:01 (3,899 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 241873 , Reply# 51   7/24/2013 at 10:37 (3,899 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 241934 , Reply# 54   7/24/2013 at 19:40 (3,899 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 242030 , Reply# 55   7/25/2013 at 10:44 (3,898 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)   |   | |
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@Will.
Using the standard 240 in North America will NOT harm a European appliance at all. You do not need a step up transformer. The only difference between Europe and here is that the pole transformer here has the winding grounded in the center to create two 120 V legs where as the transformer there has one leg grounded. Either way 240 Volts is still 240 Volts. The only difference is that most of Europe is on 50 cycles while we are on 60 cycles and that only makes a difference for some electronics or asyncronus motors (like clocks) Vacuum cleaner motors are not affected at all by a difference in cycles as they can be run on AC or DC. The only thing that prevents modern machines from running on DC is the type of switches used. |
Post# 242092 , Reply# 57   7/25/2013 at 20:43 (3,898 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)   |   | |
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Hey Will:
The only difference between using our two hot wire 240 Volt system and the European 240 V hot-neutral system lies in the fact that a switch on the machine is designed to break only one leg of the circuit normally. In the case of our stuff this really makes no difference as it still breaks the circuit and we aren't leaving the machine connected. If it were a permanently connected machine though it would require a double pole switch that disconnected both leads to make the item (in this case the motor) electrically dead. Asynchronous or induction motors, like in a clock, use the fluctuating AC field in the stator winding to turn the rotor so it basically follows the cycles of the AC to make it turn. A vacuum motor is what you call a Universal AC/DC motor. In this type brushes contact a commutator on the rotor supplying power to the windings on the rotor which set up a magnetic field which is opposite that of the stator. This pushes the rotor ahead, which in turn, brings the next segment of the commutator into contact with the brushes again with the same result, turning the rotor. Hope that explains a bit Doug |