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Miele S4-212 'plus' vacuum teardown!!
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Post# 237395   6/23/2013 at 08:53 (3,931 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

So- the challenge begins, I've had this thing in storage for ages and now comes the time to disassemble it and give it a bath. Here's everything in pieces..,

Post# 237396 , Reply# 1   6/23/2013 at 08:54 (3,931 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Here's the motor that needs replacing but I'm too poor to get a new one so I'm just going to lubricate the bearings

Post# 237397 , Reply# 2   6/23/2013 at 08:55 (3,931 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Cable rewind is fine

Post# 237398 , Reply# 3   6/23/2013 at 08:56 (3,931 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

I have the hose somewhere in the garage...

Post# 237402 , Reply# 4   6/23/2013 at 09:34 (3,930 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Just washed out the hose with a long brush

Post# 237526 , Reply# 5   6/24/2013 at 02:49 (3,930 days old) by madabouthoovers ()        

The problem with Miele vacs is that the internal parts for them are either not available, or if they are, they are so expensive (like £160 for a motor) that it works out cheaper to buy a new vac.
Whilst you can get replacement hoses and tools, once the motor goes, its sadly beyond economic repair, and only really any good for spares, unless you can get another S4 with a good motor but knackered other parts.
I cannot understand that whilst you can get a new Dyson motor pattern part for around £20, you wont find a pattern motor for a modern Miele vac.


Post# 237604 , Reply# 6   6/24/2013 at 13:24 (3,929 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)        

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"I cannot understand that whilst you can get a new Dyson motor pattern part for around £20, you wont find a pattern motor for a modern Miele vac."

The reason is due to Dyson using "off the shelf" Panasonic and YDK motors. These motors are shared by other vacuum manufacturers.

Miele, however, makes their own motors. Because of that, there isn't the demand for an aftermarket company to make motors that will only fit one brand, especially for one that is known for reliability.


Post# 237605 , Reply# 7   6/24/2013 at 13:29 (3,929 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Looking good, can't wait to see the finished results!

Post# 238158 , Reply# 8   6/29/2013 at 05:31 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Motor and rewind back in case---

Post# 238159 , Reply# 9   6/29/2013 at 05:33 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Back

Post# 238160 , Reply# 10   6/29/2013 at 06:01 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Back cover on

Post# 238161 , Reply# 11   6/29/2013 at 06:01 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Top cover on

Post# 238162 , Reply# 12   6/29/2013 at 06:03 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Back cover just snaps onto top cover

Post# 238163 , Reply# 13   6/29/2013 at 06:03 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Circuit board back on with on/off switch in place

Post# 238164 , Reply# 14   6/29/2013 at 06:04 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Lead from cable rewind system attatched to circuit board, note some of the plastic has snapped

Post# 238165 , Reply# 15   6/29/2013 at 06:05 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Cover on the circuit board

Post# 238166 , Reply# 16   6/29/2013 at 06:06 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Whoops, forgot to put this in

Post# 238167 , Reply# 17   6/29/2013 at 06:07 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Right, put it on this time...

Post# 238168 , Reply# 18   6/29/2013 at 06:07 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Lid thing fitted

Post# 238169 , Reply# 19   6/29/2013 at 06:08 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Pre filter fitted

Post# 238170 , Reply# 20   6/29/2013 at 06:08 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Post motor filter fitted

Post# 238171 , Reply# 21   6/29/2013 at 06:09 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Finally the hose is fitted and its ready!!!

Post# 238172 , Reply# 22   6/29/2013 at 06:15 (3,925 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

A video of it in action:

CLICK HERE TO GO TO dysondestijl's LINK


Post# 238177 , Reply# 23   6/29/2013 at 08:20 (3,925 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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To those who can't get it to upload from that link...

Gawd what a noise, even after repairing - what a pity you can't buy another motor. Check EBAY UK for the older yellow S4210 incase you can buy that one as a donor machine- it has an 1800 watt motor, otherwise the yellow S4211 has a 2000 watt motor.


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Post# 238197 , Reply# 24   6/29/2013 at 13:56 (3,924 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Ouch to the ears , hope it sounds better in person.Nice clean up

Post# 238204 , Reply# 25   6/29/2013 at 14:16 (3,924 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Thanks, and nope it sounds even worse in person:(

Post# 238216 , Reply# 26   6/29/2013 at 15:04 (3,924 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Very sorry to hear! The one thing my Miele does well is quiet, cat loves to be vacuumed with it.Only it.

Post# 238225 , Reply# 27   6/29/2013 at 15:23 (3,924 days old) by dysonman1 (the county)        

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If you look on Domel Motor's website, you'll see they make the Miele Vortex motor for Miele, just as Wessel Werks makes the attachments.

You'll pay less for the Miele motor if you buy it from Domel as opposed to Miele.


Post# 238252 , Reply# 28   6/29/2013 at 19:22 (3,924 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)        

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The only Domel motor used by Miele is the one that powers the Wessel Werk manufactured SEB 213 and 217.

Miele Vortex vacuum motors are made in-house at Miele's Euskirchen factory.


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Post# 238444 , Reply# 29   7/1/2013 at 12:59 (3,922 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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See item number on EBAY UK 181164740131 - 15 hours left on that one (red 1800 S4 "Parquet" but has the standard 2 pedalled combo tool shown).

Also see on EBAY UK 190860477587 - S4211 yellow model with 2000 motor. Both could serve as donor models.

On a separate note, I've only just noticed a high number of S6 Cat and Dog models on sale, used. That's quite strange to see.


Post# 238455 , Reply# 30   7/1/2013 at 14:26 (3,922 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Cheers sebo!

Post# 238714 , Reply# 31   7/3/2013 at 08:41 (3,921 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Did you manage to get one? ( Have also sent you a msg ).

Post# 239004 , Reply# 32   7/5/2013 at 10:02 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I was going to add a new thread, but to heck - John Lewis are doing a clearance on many products - A Dyson and a Miele S5211 base black model reduced to £159-95.



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