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IF Your Daily Driver Could Do Something Extra, What Would It Be?
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Post# 234136   5/27/2013 at 05:14 (3,983 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Just an interesting topic since there have been many members on here who have a "daily driver" vacuum cleaner and more lately from those who have bought new vacuums.. if your daily driver could do something extra what would it be?

Personally with my SEBO Felix, I wish it could have an auto cord rewind fitted. There are days when I just find lasso'ing up all 9.5 metres of the cord a bit of a faff!


Post# 234137 , Reply# 1   5/27/2013 at 05:36 (3,983 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Perhaps a longer cord, Panasonics 6.7m cord can't even vacuum our hallway fully even with it plugged in in the middle! So a long cord deffo, about 11m would be great.

Also a longer hose, have to carry the Panasonic up the stairs to clean them to the top.


Post# 234138 , Reply# 2   5/27/2013 at 05:37 (3,983 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Nothing, because it is a Hoover Turbopower 1000 and therefor perfect in every way.

Only jesting of course.

Though in all honesty I can't think of anything that I'd want it to do other than what it already does.


Post# 234142 , Reply# 3   5/27/2013 at 06:28 (3,983 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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How about brush controls for bare floors, Jamie? So you could switch the brushroll off to go from carpet to bare floors?

With the Sebo x1.1, the only thing I would like is a longer stretch hose that would mean I could clean a full flight of stairs without the extension hose.


Post# 234143 , Reply# 4   5/27/2013 at 06:29 (3,983 days old) by ultraperformer (Derbyshire, UK, Europe)        

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Hi Ryan,

Funny you should say that because I was thinking this morning how much I really like the Nimble I got Saturday but I just wish it had cord rewind, being used to cylinders I'm used to auto cord rewind, winding up all the cable by hand is annoying! When the novelty has worn off and I go back to the DC38 I wish that had remote control on the handle and a longer cord, its so short but I suppose thats because it's so small?

Dan


Post# 234145 , Reply# 5   5/27/2013 at 06:34 (3,983 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

In general for Meile canisters-longer cords and hoses-and a REAL dust brush instead of the "doll dust brush" as another member put it.
For Kirby-in the canister mode-some sort of "scrap trap" on the hose attachment so the fan can't ingest hard items like coins,nails,screws,pebbles and such.


Post# 234149 , Reply# 6   5/27/2013 at 06:43 (3,983 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"How about brush controls for bare floors, Jamie? So you could switch the brushroll off to go from carpet to bare floors?" That would be useless for me Chris as I would never use an upright on bare floors, it just doesn't feel right.

Benny (vintagerepairer) made a good argument for that last year.

Talking of which, has anybody seen him lately?


Post# 234156 , Reply# 7   5/27/2013 at 06:54 (3,983 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Well, for me it would be a lightweight Kirby heritage!

Post# 234163 , Reply# 8   5/27/2013 at 07:00 (3,983 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Good idea. Kirbys are good, but lightweight they are not.

Though in saying that, how they could reduce the weight of a metal machine without going to dreaded plastic is tricky.


Post# 234166 , Reply# 9   5/27/2013 at 07:05 (3,983 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Kirby could scrap the bloody techdrive for starters. They wouldn't NEED techdrive if it wasn't for the techdrive making the cleaner heavier in the first place.

Post# 234174 , Reply# 10   5/27/2013 at 08:00 (3,983 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        

I want my Dyson uprights, mainly DC07 Standard to have autosense, a little crumb sucked up and the brushes stick out and the suction increases to 500 AW, I can push any vacuum cleaner!


Post# 234175 , Reply# 11   5/27/2013 at 08:22 (3,983 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
I want my DC07 Standard to have autosense

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....why?

I never understood the praise for autosense. Seems like a pointless marketing gimmick. Why would anyone want any of their carpet less clean than other areas?


Post# 234177 , Reply# 12   5/27/2013 at 08:54 (3,983 days old) by Numatic99 ()        
Not into hoovers much, but I think it's going to be a ho

If I could add a feature to my hoover, it'd have a built in camera and would do the work for me! lol, but I don't think that counts. Tbh, I don't know what I'd add to my Dyson, it's great!

That's what I'd like, it could happen in the not to distant future!

Chris.


Post# 234204 , Reply# 13   5/27/2013 at 12:57 (3,983 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Autosense/Sensor

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Hi Chris - good point about the Autosense - never thought about that before!

Post# 234209 , Reply# 14   5/27/2013 at 13:53 (3,983 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        

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A shoulder strap would be handy for my M/R Lift Away.

Post# 234211 , Reply# 15   5/27/2013 at 14:15 (3,983 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Why not go the whole ten yards...

And invent a home which did not need cleaning. I wouldn't put the concept past James Dyson.

Post# 234243 , Reply# 16   5/27/2013 at 17:51 (3,983 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I can't imagine having a home which does not need cleaning. How would one cope with not cleaning the toilet or the kitchen bin?

Post# 234247 , Reply# 17   5/27/2013 at 18:02 (3,983 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )        
for my miele s4

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it would have to be a longer cord apart from that its perfect

Post# 234248 , Reply# 18   5/27/2013 at 18:04 (3,983 days old) by mieles7 (TX)        

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I'd give my Sebo X2 a longer hose & brushroll on/off, and I'd give my Riccar 8900 a hose.


Post# 234249 , Reply# 19   5/27/2013 at 18:19 (3,983 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
How would one cope with not cleaning the toilet or the kitch

Well as it was all a suggestion of imagination, I have no idea.

Post# 234252 , Reply# 20   5/27/2013 at 19:03 (3,983 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Well, depends on what I am using of course. dc 18, a bit more air flow at the floor tool, so it would pick up the kitty litter at the edge of the rug, will NOT do that.Silverado, well as I get older, boy its heavy

Post# 234259 , Reply# 21   5/27/2013 at 19:51 (3,983 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan )        
Clean stairs easier.

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While it's not the suction or the cord or hose lenth it's the roundness that makes cleaning stairs difficult.

Post# 234266 , Reply# 22   5/27/2013 at 21:08 (3,983 days old) by vacuumman206 ()        
D.D: Hoover innovation

I wish my daily driver wasn't so fragile, was un-scratchable and had another 10' on the cord.

Post# 234410 , Reply# 23   5/28/2013 at 20:25 (3,982 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()        

My daily drivers area all clean air machines, so I would add the ability to clean shag and groom shag to them if I could...  I've never met a clean air machine yet that works well on shag (and in truth, many fan first machines also don't work well on shag), and I loathe having to get out a Kirby or Eureka F and G machine to do a proper job on the shag after I've finished doing the rest of the place with a clean air vac.  


Post# 234417 , Reply# 24   5/28/2013 at 22:31 (3,982 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        

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I bought a Kenmore Progressive canister about a month ago. I am very pleased with the brushroll performance, but I HATE HATE HATE the attachments with a passion. The primary problem is that the dusting brush is HUUUGGGE...waaay too big to be easily maneuvered, difficult to fit into narrow spaces. I will post pictures in the next thread below. There is another tool that snaps onto that space that looks like a horse hoof. Ridiculous.

 

No upholstery tool, though the "hoof" is supposed to take its place (called a pet hair tool), and there is a motorized Powermate, which is great. There is a small crevice tool, which is difficult to attach and remove. The bare floor attachment is strange; it swivels, but ackwardly. As it turns, it comes off the floor and tips sideways. The motor is powerful, and the filtration system is adequate. However, the large opening for the dusting tool causes air to rush around it, and air leaks around the opening. Also, because of the design of the opening, you cannot adapt the hose (or wand) opening to any other type of tool.

 

In general, I am not pleased with this vacuum - I bought it especially for above the floor cleaning. It falls far short, mainly because of the strange tools. A few other models are designed the same way, with the same tools. These models are produced by Panasonic.


Post# 234419 , Reply# 25   5/28/2013 at 22:33 (3,982 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Did not like mine either, gave it away, $500 gone.

Post# 234420 , Reply# 26   5/28/2013 at 22:34 (3,982 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        

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A picture (from eBay) of the very large dusting tool, which is attached here while the wand is attached to the extension wand and power nozzle. Ackward arrangement. Of course, the wand can be detached, so that you can use the dusting brush by itself. It's just way too big.


Post# 234421 , Reply# 27   5/28/2013 at 22:35 (3,982 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        

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The entire unit...


Post# 234422 , Reply# 28   5/28/2013 at 22:36 (3,982 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Different from mine, but that was 6 years ago?

Post# 234423 , Reply# 29   5/28/2013 at 22:37 (3,982 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        

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Luckily, I bought a floor demonstrator from a wholesaler on eBay; I paid a little over $100 for it. It was a good deal, but the canister is a disappointment.


Post# 234440 , Reply# 30   5/29/2013 at 05:35 (3,981 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
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I have to agree with Jamie...I can't think of anything else I waould want it to do than what it already does. If I was to change anything about it, I would put on two extension tubes and it would come with a hard floor tool or have a brushroll on off with a squeege at the back of the sole plate so it didn't miss anything when cleaning hard floors.

I don't see why people don't like Autosense, it does work and If it does leave patches of carpet slightly cleaner than others, at least it is in full contact with the carpet while it is cleaning it, unlike a Sebo Automatic X.....Which in my experience it just skims the surface of the carpet, like a Panasonic and not clinging at all.


Post# 234449 , Reply# 31   5/29/2013 at 10:48 (3,981 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Alex, I've said it before and I'll say it again - you're the only person I've ever heard that has that problem with the X series. I've had an x series cleaner now for 6 years and never had a problem with the cleaner not keeping in contact with the carpet

Post# 234452 , Reply# 32   5/29/2013 at 11:38 (3,981 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
It does but not properly...

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It just skims the pile and doesn't dig into the carpet like a manual adjustment cleaner, I have never like the silly computer controlled height adjustment and I doubt I ever will. I have used your X1 and I feel yours just glides along the surface too which is exactly what the Panasonics do. The Felix is much better at sticking to the carpet but I don't like that either! Haha.

Post# 234458 , Reply# 33   5/29/2013 at 12:36 (3,981 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Post# 234471 , Reply# 34   5/29/2013 at 14:42 (3,981 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Sebo contact

They use the X4 here in the carpeted areas. The carpet pile is very short in the corridors and the lady who cleans it tends to tilt the cleaner off the carpet before using the cleaner. I asked her why and she showed me; on it's own the head is not always in complete contact with the the carpet, and by tilting the cleaner the sensors allow the head to lower further. The green 'down' light comes on as she does so.

It's made worse by the fact that the carpet is stuck down tight and the floor is not perfectly level (it is slightly domed in places). Conversely, in our community room the carpet is very thick. The ladies say it works better on that floor. Another thing which annoys them is that the cleaner head raises itself when stood upright, meaning if they use the hose (no matter how briefly) they have to wait for the head to re-align itself to carpet once the hose is replaced. I have no dislike of the cleaner or the brand, but I can see why the ladies find the height control system irritating.


Post# 234494 , Reply# 35   5/29/2013 at 18:22 (3,981 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

On our hallway carpet the Panasonic works great, brings up the pile really well, but then again a reason why it does so is the fact that we haven't had an upright in the house for 8 years! It's been Henry, Henry, Henry...


Post# 234495 , Reply# 36   5/29/2013 at 18:27 (3,981 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
We haven't had an upright for 8 years!

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I would love to take a HOOVER round, that would fill a bag up quite nicely...With grit!

Post# 234508 , Reply# 37   5/29/2013 at 20:13 (3,981 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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I love my Electrolux UltraSilencer Green canister vac! But I would want the following improvements: a nice long 9 foot hose, a separate Tool Pak to carry a variety of Electrolux attachments and bags, and a special bare floor tool that would take Swiffer dusting cloths to wipe the floor as it cleans!

Post# 234522 , Reply# 38   5/30/2013 at 02:07 (3,981 days old) by spiraclean (UK)        

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With regard to the X series auto height adjustment, I experienced this exact same problem too. It was the one and only fault I could find with this cleaner, but was bad enough that I eventually threw in the towel and sold it on.

We have a good quality short pile berber throughout the entire house. With the standard brush roller fitted, the cleaner would barely skim the carpet, and surface litter pickup was poor. So I ordered the optional soft bristle roller, knowing that it makes the height adjustment ride slightly lower than usual. Problem is this worked too well, and while performance improved significantly, the cleaner would clamp itself down tightly onto the carpet, making it incredibly difficult to push and manoeuvre.

Now this isn't a case of brand bashing, as I do like Sebo products very much and am quite happily using a D2 as my daily driver right now. I just think it's a case of being unlucky enough to have one of the very few carpets that isn't best suited to this particular cleaner. For what it's worth it worked just fine round my mother's house, but that doesn't help me much.

Perhaps the Felix would have been a better choice, and this it what I'll try next time I buy an upright. With four manual height settings and variable suction, in addition to the choice of two different brush rollers, there's bound to be a combination of variables in there somewhat that would work well.


Post# 234530 , Reply# 39   5/30/2013 at 05:42 (3,980 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        
AlexHoovers94

You would have a field day with the carpets at my house, I can tell you that!

The Panasonic's Brushroll is alright, not thorough like you said, a Hoover TurboPower one or something.


Post# 234534 , Reply# 40   5/30/2013 at 07:27 (3,980 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Cannister vacs are my preference but I do own a Kirby Ultimate G which I use on occasion. Being left handed I would prefer if the bag was behind the handle rather than on the right side.

Gary


Post# 234564 , Reply# 41   5/30/2013 at 15:20 (3,980 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Gary, I agree with you, canisters are my preference for daily use. NOTHING can beat the versatility of a canister with a long hose, good powerhead & well designed attachments to get in all the nooks & crannies. I agree with Brian....it would be nice to see canisters with long generous hoses & cords. But what I REALLY want to see, is for a company to come up with the ULTIMATE creme-de-la-creme canister vacuum that has EVERY feature ever made. For instance, you can buy a Sebo & get the ETC powerhead with computerized controls, but you can't get the LED headlight, quick-release pedal, powerhead on/off switch on the handle & charcoal-HEPA filtration like Miele does. And yet if you buy a Miele, you can't get the steel 3 row brushroll & dirt sensor that Riccar/Simplicity canisters offer. Why can't there be one manufacturer who can make one ULTIMATE canister vacuum with ALL the features, for those people who want only the best & can afford it? I sure would buy it!!

John-Portable....One thing that occured to me when I first saw the new Kenmore hose & tool design a couple of years ago....the crevice tool looks to be 1 1/4 inch size, like it may have been carried over from their older designs or like it would fit the older-style Kenmore hose handle (which is 1 1/4 inch). Now, if that's the case, I have to wonder if a Panasonic/Kenmore upright vacuum hose adapter would work or be slightly modified to work? It may be a short plastic stub, but at least you could use universal tools & solve your problem. Or, if it would fit & you wanted something with a longer stub & in metal, there is also a adapter made for Samsung canister vacuums. Again, perhaps this would work fine as is, or be slightly modified to work with your Kenmore. I will post a link to both of them later so you can see what I am talking about.

Rob


Post# 234593 , Reply# 42   5/31/2013 at 01:19 (3,980 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Again,for Kirby-Go back to the METAL fans,please!Get rid of that silly carpet-floor tool-for the price of the Kirby-they could include BOTH a carpet surface tool and a REAL bare floor tool.Slightly longer cord,too, please.

Post# 234604 , Reply# 43   5/31/2013 at 06:31 (3,979 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I tgink the Panasonics have a great brushroll, I think they would be much better if they had four adjustable settings instead of that silly floating head.

Post# 234605 , Reply# 44   5/31/2013 at 06:50 (3,979 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

The Panasonics Floating Head is utterly useless, it dosen't self adjust for hard floors & when you retract it the brush is in it's lowest possible form. However what's good is that when you put it in Upright Position the brush rises very high off the floor, but the Brushbar ON/OFF feature on the older Panasonics would be great.

Post# 234616 , Reply# 45   5/31/2013 at 09:36 (3,979 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
"left handed"

Gary,Another leftie here.Most products seem to be for a right handed world.Two vacs that I have noticed in particular are--A deluxe Sanitaire upright with the switch to one side of upper handle not easily used by a leftie.--The deluxe Sears canister with remote switch at center of hose handle and equally convenient for either handed.
John,As to the Sears I agree with good and bad.Good vacuum,good bag,good price,many good features but the one time I used one for any length of time and with all attachments I didn't 'like' it.As above you could pick and choose favorite atts that would fit.It seems to be the best choice in its price range and with good value although not as long life of a motor as previous.None are perfect but I have already used an Automatic F this morning and it worked fine.


Post# 234651 , Reply# 46   5/31/2013 at 14:27 (3,979 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Today, if it would move itself, my back/ hip is killing me!

Post# 234715 , Reply# 47   6/1/2013 at 10:15 (3,978 days old) by crock ()        

I have to agree that Kirby needs a much better floor tool and a metal adjustable wand to go with it. A floor waxer that was not "one use only" disposable would be nice.

Post# 235110 , Reply# 48   6/4/2013 at 04:54 (3,975 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Yes,like the idea of a metal wand or wands for the Kirby-and how bout locking tools for the Kirby-sometimes the friction fit ones fall off at the worst times.

Post# 235276 , Reply# 49   6/5/2013 at 10:43 (3,974 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I want the TriStar EXL to have variable speed to lower suction power when vacing delicate surfaces & headlamp on PN & MiniStar to see areas where light is limited (under furniture)

 

 

Why did TriStar do away with two speeds after the red CXL & make single speed CXL after then?

 




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Post# 235468 , Reply# 50   6/6/2013 at 16:19 (3,973 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
smaller head

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although i love my kirby i would really like a smaller floor nozzel i find it just a bit two big for the average UK home when i say smaller i mean about the size of a Hoover junior i know they were available in the states at one time but not over here i have seen one but even that is still two big .there are places in my house where the kirby just wont go without moving major bits of furniture where as my mums old junior gets in there no problem


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