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Post# 230747   4/30/2013 at 22:04 (4,006 days old) by chan55 (Green Bay, WI)   |   | |
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There is a Westinghouse upright for sale on Ebay. It looks a lot like a Singer. Did Singer make their uprights? I know they made Sunbeam. |
Post# 230758 , Reply# 1   4/30/2013 at 23:19 (4,006 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 230759 , Reply# 2   4/30/2013 at 23:20 (4,006 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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Post# 230791 , Reply# 3   5/1/2013 at 10:14 (4,006 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)   |   | |
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The Westinghouse (mine) does seem to be the Singer/Sunbeam version. Other than this one I have only seen in a 1967 Bennett's catalog. Needs restoration as stated but is super RARE and matches many other WH vacs. |
Post# 230792 , Reply# 4   5/1/2013 at 10:18 (4,006 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA)   |   | |
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John and others,
In short, YES, Singer DID make their uprights. At least this model anyway. The high dormer hood, and metal base was eventually used for their TOL Singer Golden Power-Master U-69 of about 1975. I have one so I know this as fact. The other slight difference was that their A frame handle was different, styled to look like the A frame handle of the then current Converto-Vac, which was a Westinghouse built and designed product to the best of my knowledge. Now I AM speculating a bit here, and operating off from heresay, but I DID hear along the way (of being a collector and sales/service person), that the Converto-Vac, while funky and different and over-engineered, was too (funky and different) for the customer. Not to mention it weighed a ton, and had (via- testing mags) "so so" cleaning performance. So (uht-oh), better come up with a "conventional" upright and QUICK. Also, that its possible that Singer had been frolicking with W-H before with their One Stroke Upright, that used a very early Singer-esque' twin fan desing also.... My best guess is that it would seem that Westinghouse after seeing that the Converto-Vac was NOT going to set the world on fire, and was in fact being more of a hindrance, and their other machines weren't putting much of a dent in the marketplace, decided NOT to drop alot of money again in the vacuum market. I mean they hadn't a chance of touching Hoover, let alone the others. And Westinghouse by this point wasn't doing too well as a home appliance manufacturer anyway... The vacuums were gone with the small-appliances by 1972, and the major ones by 1974. Clearly not the atmosphere for a whole new upright when there were plenty around for rebadging. So off they went to see the Singer people, and wham bam thank you ma'am you see what you see. Singer as most of you know wasn't at ALL embarrassed to private-label/ badge engineer for anyone. We all know about their Sears, Sunbeam, K-Mart's FLOR-GENIE and Lewyt clones. Well clearly they did it for Westy too. Bottom line, I have never seen one in 30+ years of vacuum watching, collecting, and industry working. Its a VERY VERY rare bird. I would dare say that this machine hails from at least 1967, as I have a catalog from 1966 which features to my knowledge the whole 1966 Westinghouse Vacuum Line. The two tone blue color scheme is there, for two cans and the lower end Converto-Vac are styled in it. This machine was absent form that page. That could have meant that it was simply a on spec machine that WH used to lure people into the showrooms, when the Converto-Vac or the canisters couldn't do so. At the very best it just wasnt heavily advertised. My thoughts... Chad |
Post# 230793 , Reply# 5   5/1/2013 at 10:19 (4,006 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA)   |   | |
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Post# 230803 , Reply# 6   5/1/2013 at 11:44 (4,006 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA)   |   | |
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Post# 230804 , Reply# 7   5/1/2013 at 11:46 (4,006 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA)   |   | |
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Post# 230805 , Reply# 8   5/1/2013 at 11:47 (4,006 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA)   |   | |
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Post# 230806 , Reply# 9   5/1/2013 at 11:48 (4,006 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA)   |   | |
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Post# 230809 , Reply# 10   5/1/2013 at 11:54 (4,006 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA)   |   | |
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Post# 230891 , Reply# 12   5/1/2013 at 23:26 (4,005 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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I grew up in Mansfield, OH, where Westinghouse was a major industrial presence for 72 years. When I was a teenager one of my best friend's parents had that very upright. His Dad was a Westinghouse employee, and almost all of their appliances were Westinghouse. Although the Mansfield plant was the headquarters of the appliance division, electric fans and vacuum cleaners were made in another plant in Springfield, MA.
At one time, ALL major Westinghouse appliances, and many of the smalls, were made in the Mansfield plant. Refrigerators and air conditioners were moved to a new plant in Columbus, OH in 1954, followed by dishwashers in 1956, and water heaters in 1957. The small appliance lines were moved to Byesville, OH in 1967, then sold to Hamilton Beach/Scoville in 1970. The Westinghouse major appliance division was sold to White Consolidated Industries in 1975, who also acquired Frigidaire in 1979, and in turn WCI was acquired by the Swedish A. B. Electrolux (who had previously bought the Tappan Co.) in 1986. Just four years later in 1990, all production at the Mansfield plant ceased and the plant was closed. I worked at the Mansfield plant for about 6 months in 1977, on the dryer floor. By that time, the only appliances made there were washers, dryers, and ranges, and the plant itself was officially called Mansfield Products Co., division of WCI. Jeff |
Post# 230914 , Reply# 14   5/2/2013 at 10:16 (4,005 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA)   |   | |
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Jimmy, yeah the banana yellow color was possibly the most wild out of all Singers Vacuums up to that point. The Following model which was black, cream and chrome/aluminum accents, which I believe MoparHemiPower has; was their final real "Singer Company" vacuum line. After that it was PURE Ryobi from then on if what I have learned is correct.
Chad |
Post# 230918 , Reply# 15   5/2/2013 at 10:23 (4,005 days old) by dirtmaster37 (Ypsilanti, Michigan USA)   |   | |
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Jeff,
I forgot you told me that you worked for Westy back then. Thank you for clearing up the dates. If anyone should know this information, it would be you. I also remember us discussing the plant, and that they were tearing it down, and not to waste my time going down there from Luke's house at his mini-meet last fall. I had heard from someone, who I cant remember anyway that Westy stopped vacuums in 1972. And the story of the above TwinFan variant was chatted about in the same conversation. I was probably 19 or 20 then and have forgot the actuals. Hope we get to see each other again soon!!! Chad |
Post# 230956 , Reply# 16   5/2/2013 at 16:16 (4,005 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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I would if there was a word to describe it! XD
Alas, The auction went on and someone else took her home, I wonder who...Perhaps a member of this site? As for now, I guess I'm lucky to have my Singer Golden Powermaster (The Cream and Black one Dirtmaster described above). The poor thing Isn't doing as well as it used to, The bag's zipper is in Dire need of repair, the Headlight lens exploded into two pieces, and then the Carbon-Brush exploded out of it's socket (Disconnecting itself from the copper cabling that connects to power). All theses faults have unfortunately rendered the singer to no-more than a beautiful show-piece. (W ould anyone PLEASE Have an extra carbon-brush, lens and possible bag?)
Although this cleaner has her faults, It is one I am proud to own. -Alex. |
Post# 231245 , Reply# 17   5/4/2013 at 23:13 (4,002 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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Yes, I hope we can see each other again soon too. Maybe when you get down this way we can run over to Mansfield, only about 15 miles from Galion, and I can show you what's left of the Westinghouse plant. There are actually 2 buildings still standing, not much compared to what it used to be. There is also a museum over there that has a nice Westinghouse display. Only one vacuum cleaner but they do have the famous Elektro robot that was built by Westinghouse in the late 30's.
Jeff |