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CWP Brushroll for Hoover Convertible? |
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Post# 228723   4/16/2013 at 21:50 (3,998 days old) by thevacuumman (Borger, TX)   |   | |
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How do these perform? I thought about replacing the beater-bar on my Encore LE with one of these. |
Post# 228741 , Reply# 1   4/17/2013 at 00:02 (3,998 days old) by bnsd60m9200 (Akron OH)   |   | |
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Post# 228769 , Reply# 2   4/17/2013 at 10:36 (3,997 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)   |   | |
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However, the CWP brushroll works well with the newer plastic based convertibles. It's not recommended for use in the first generation Hoover Convertible motors as Will stated above. This subject has been discussed in the past. Tyler you can search for CWP and read some previous discussions with a lot more information than I can provide.
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Post# 261716 , Reply# 3   1/3/2014 at 21:46 (3,736 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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I have a 4.3 Amp Hoover Convertible Elite. The machine is a 2 speed with 4.7 Amp in attachment mode. I also have a 4.8 Amp, same amperage in both modes. Both of my machines are running Genuine Hoover 49258 Convertible belts. One belt is about 4 months old and the other is less than 1 month old.
The 4.3 Amp Convertible Elite had signmificant air flow loss and motor struggle sound. The 4.8 Amp Convertible only after about 2 (TWO) Minutes of use had the belt close to melting point of getting sticky to my hands, and motor pulley. Extremely over heated motor pulley. With Genuine Hoover brush roll I run the height settings at the "Normal" carpet setting on this 4 height setting 4.8 Amp machine. I raised the height to the "High" carpet setting for the CWP to lessen the struggle. Carpet still groomed ok but belt smell and motor struggle did not change. Neither machine sounded proper, there's was a struggle to the motors. Terrible burning rubber smell emitted from both machines after just a couple of minutes. Over heated motor pulleys. Upon immediately switching over to a genuine, despite beat up Hoover brush roll with beater bars, the machines cooled down and burning rubber smell dissipated. With this experience that I had tonight, the CWP brush roll is no longer allowed in either of my Convertibles!! |
Post# 261719 , Reply# 4   1/3/2014 at 21:50 (3,736 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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On left is the 4.3 Amp Hoover Convertible Elite. On right is the 4.8 Amp Hoover Convertible. Pictures of belts and 2 other genuine Hoover brush rolls that I have. The brush roll on the left with no beater bars turns smooth but bearings in it aren't great. Both of these brush rolls perform MUCH BETTER and have machines running MUCH SMOOTHER than the brand new CWP that I was trying to upgrade to. I was looking to replace the single brush, non beater bar brush roll on left as bearings and bristles themselves aren't great.
Shame as the CWP does groom nice. |
Post# 262439 , Reply# 6   1/8/2014 at 14:48 (3,731 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Very interesting. I'm glad you've had a positive experience with them HooverU4089. i had definite decreased airflow from both of my machines. Melted belt and overheated motor pulley on both. We're talking only after about 2 minutes of use. Loss of brushed cleaning by about 3/4". The edge cleaning is now completely awful. Motors sound awful running brush roll, especially the Convertible Elite with 4.3 Amp motor. Really sounds like it's struggling.
My belts are Genuine Hoover 49258 and are in great shape. I tried raising height all the way up to Shag Level which didn't clean anything at all and lowering back down. Even at Shag the machines still didn't sound good. My carpet is a Medium density, medium pile. It's a rental townhouse, so it's nothing super fancy. I've used about 20 different vacuums here including these Convertibles and with the Genuine Hoover brush roll, I've had no issues with any machine here!! |
Post# 262465 , Reply# 7   1/8/2014 at 18:00 (3,731 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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WHAT if your (Durango159)'s Convertibles are in need of new carbon brushes? I have an elder Metal base U4047 and it ran GREAT without the brush, but even with a fully free and moving original HOOVER brushroll, The cleaner slowed to barely a crawl! I was advised to check the brushes, But have not got into that. My Eureka did the same thing about the brush slowing, I need to learn how to replace brushes! I've heard it's fairly simple, I'll have to order a commuter stone, But I'm likely to get my heart racing from the flying sparks! I've got Three projects backed up (The convertible, the Eureka, And a secret HOOVER surprise)! Over Carbon Brushes. Anyhow, I'd recommend checking the carbon brushes, and ensure the motor can spin VERY freely, and resistance is not a good thing! you should see the RPM's on a freshly lubed cleaner (You've likely have, though)! |
Post# 262504 , Reply# 8   1/8/2014 at 21:36 (3,731 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Both machines have had motors serviced, fans cleaned and otherwise in great shape. Carbon brushes have lots of life left. With Genuine Hoover brush rolls, these machines sound FANTASTIC!! Lots of airflow, gorgeously grooming and not the slightest hint of motor struggle with the normal brush rolls!!
I do appreciate the thoughts, that was an excellent theory for checking the carbon brushes. I wish there was a better explanation for this, like if my CWP roller was a lemon? The CWP roller does rotate very smooth, silent and freely with no resistance on it. |