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| Post# 228128 4/12/2013 at 21:34 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
had to buy the new and improved Rainbow E Onyx Black power nozzle .
The belt is now located on the end instead of the middle . It`s about time they changed it now it has a bit more cleaning w/out the belt in the middle. They look identical until you flip it over see the pictures . I have yet to try it out I am just to busy selling homes :) Dan 
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| Post# 228129 , Reply# 1 4/12/2013 at 21:35 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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| Post# 228130 , Reply# 2 4/12/2013 at 21:35 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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| Post# 228131 , Reply# 3 4/12/2013 at 21:36 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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| Post# 228132 , Reply# 4 4/12/2013 at 21:42 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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| Post# 228134 , Reply# 5 4/12/2013 at 21:43 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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| Post# 228136 , Reply# 6 4/12/2013 at 21:59 (4,023 days old) by Ralph123 (Little Rock, AR) | ||
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Should help with CR testing By moving the belt to the side and removing the dead spot in the middle, this should help quite a bit with the Consumer Reports testing. It's nice to see Rainbow listening to the feedback they get from forums such as these and making appropriate corrections. | ||
Post# 228171 , Reply# 7 4/13/2013 at 03:25 (4,023 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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The new sidemount belt will allow the belt to last longer-not so much in the dirt path.This powernozzle is better than the previous one-think both of these "whisker" powernozzles are better than Rainbow had before. | ||
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Post# 228172 , Reply# 8 4/13/2013 at 03:26 (4,023 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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The new sidemount belt will allow the belt to last longer-not so much in the dirt path.This powernozzle is better than the previous one-think both of these "whisker" powernozzles are better than Rainbow had before. | ||
| Post# 228180 , Reply# 11 4/13/2013 at 05:34 (4,023 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
I am going to get one of those... | ||
| Post# 228206 , Reply# 13 4/13/2013 at 10:16 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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identical to the old one just improved with the side belt.
I don't understand why everyone thinks you can just keep using a belt until it breaks . Belts MUST be changed at least every six months . I have always changed regular rubber belts every three months. They do stretch and wear out and are not meant to be left on for ever or until the break . Sorry to go on but that's my biggest pet peeve being a former vacuum shop owner and vacuum nut for 40 years :) I paid $194.00 for just the PN some Rainbow stores wont split it up and you have to purchase it plus the hose and wands. It`s worth every penny to me because I must have the latest and greatest . Dan | ||
| Post# 228218 , Reply# 14 4/13/2013 at 11:46 (4,023 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
Actually, Rexair never listens to the buying public. The consumer is NOT their customer - the distributor is. The model Power Nozzle with the poly V belt was one of three new power nozzle designs that were patented several years ago. Rainbow distributors did not want to give up the flat belt, as it was the only thing the ultimate customer would really need to buy (and so, the customer would have to go to the distributor to buy a new one). Finally, the distributors voted (at their annual distributor meeting) to go with the Poly V style belt nozzle. There are two other shampooers that have been designed and patented. One is a stand alone model not attached to the canister unit. But the shampooer is 'given away' for leads - so the distributors want to keep that cost as low as possible. Hence the reason the shampooer is so inexpensively made.
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| Post# 228276 , Reply# 16 4/13/2013 at 18:43 (4,023 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Rob
the geared Electrolux type belts can stay on until the break .
It`s the regular rubber belts that do stretch and should be replaced at least twice a year . They only cost around $2.00-$3.00 so its not a big expense at all and it really does keep the performance at factory specs. I never compare the old belt to a new one , automatically at three months off the old belt goes and on a new one then back to cleaning I go . I am just that crazy in love with vacuums and every time something new is introduced with any high end machine I MUST have it and always buy it . Dan | ||
| Post# 228318 , Reply# 18 4/14/2013 at 04:05 (4,022 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
Could not agree with you more Dan. I am amazed at how many people will throw away a vacuum because its not sucking mean while the belt is stretched beyond itself.
The best was a customer who came and bought a new vacuum from us this week and traded in a fairly high end vacuum saying it was not sucking. I asked if she wanted us to have a look at it and she said no she just wanted a new one. A few days later my tech comes to me and he has sorted it out and cleaned it so we can resell it, all it needed was a new belt, He fitted one of the two that were still on the back of the unit in plastic. I agree change belts every three months | ||
| Post# 228433 , Reply# 19 4/14/2013 at 22:14 (4,021 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Gareth
you and I agree and I just did a quick search on eBay for Genuine Rainbow belts and I found a seller selling them @ 3 belts for $4.99 that's $1.66 per belt so you could change the belts on the Rainbow power nozzle once every four months for less than a cup of fancy coffee . It`s almost like people think belts cost $166.00 and that's why they can`t afford to change a belt until it breaks .
I have learned though no matter what we say people still can`t comprehend the tiny cost to replace a belt regularly to keep the machines running at peak performance and they will continue to wait until they break because that's what everyone believes . I wish I knew the person who started that myth because a good 99% of vacuum owners believe that and it is their law and you can not change their minds no matter what we say . That is how I started with vacuums I used to pick Hoover Convertibles and Eureka vacuums that were thrown out because of stretched belts replace them clean the machines up and resell them . That's how I purchased my first car 1985 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz with vacuum cash that I have saved since the age of 5 selling trash picked vacuums . Dan | ||
| Post# 228489 , Reply# 20 4/15/2013 at 13:51 (4,021 days old) by cleaningbuff (Quincy, IL) | ||
New Rainbow power nozzle | ||
| Post# 228490 , Reply# 21 4/15/2013 at 13:53 (4,021 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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| Post# 228951 , Reply# 23 4/18/2013 at 15:37 (4,018 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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John
Just sell it as is with a new belt most people on eBay will never know the difference .
The Aerus Guardian Platinum is my go to machine I am too busy with my Real Estate I don't have the extra time to clean my Rainbow but I do use it when things slow down . I will never give up my Rainbow E Onyx . Dan | ||
| Post# 229658 , Reply# 25 4/23/2013 at 11:57 (4,013 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
Change belts every three months
regardless if you vacuum every day for three months or once per week? Does it matter?
I've changed the belt of my rainbow PN twice only based on the fact that I read you should change them frequently, but I didn't notice/hear a single fraction of a difference. I felt as if I were throwing a still working great belt away....I don't know what a stretched belt would sound/feel like but I'm sure you would hear or notice something or is it not noticeable? | ||
| Post# 229680 , Reply# 26 4/23/2013 at 13:56 (4,013 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Good for you
Rob you`ll love it .
Mark is $1.66 really a lot of money to spend on a belt to replace it every three months ? That's $4.99 to change them every 4 months per year . It is made from rubber they stretch and wear while in use . I am sorry but I find it very hard to believe that people swear there is no difference when there is belts are not made to last a lifetime as the geared type belts are . I have always changed belts in all of my vacuums every 3 months and I use many vacuums but even just sitting around they stretch . I don't know I guess $4.99 per year might be a lot of money for some maybe that's why no one likes to change their belts regularly . I am just at a loss when this subject comes up and many people feel just change the belt ONLY if it breaks . Dan | ||
| Post# 229695 , Reply# 27 4/23/2013 at 14:55 (4,013 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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| Post# 229696 , Reply# 28 4/23/2013 at 15:05 (4,013 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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you are right Gareth , as soon as I hear a slight noise in my car I immediately take it to the Mercedes dealership for a check and a service . I am very picky about every machine I own and maintain every one to factory specs .
I want every machine I own to run as if it came right off of the assembly line . Dan | ||
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Post# 229703 , Reply# 29 4/23/2013 at 15:18 (4,013 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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Well, clearly, there is a noticeable
difference with a worn or stretched belt. They can make the rugs with rubber'skid marks'. etc. The cleaner slows down, too.
I keep my aunt's HOOVERS and mine supplied with correct, genuine HOOVER belts. I have a huge supply.........got genuine belts for $.99 a package, with 2 belts in each. They were on sale, so I bought them all. I also find them still sealed at thrift stores. It is imperative to "keep your HOOVER cleasner operating at peak performance". THat is written in the book. | ||
| Post# 251236 , Reply# 31 9/24/2013 at 18:08 (3,859 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center) | ||
It all depends on the model, I can't remember the last time I changed the belt in any Elite machine I own, They seem to last a LONG time and still provide excellent performance. They're genuine HOOVER, of course!
However, I notice on my HOOVER convertibles and Eureka F&G style cleaners, I find myself constantly replacing the belts, I went to take out the '78 Self-Propelled Eureka and Nope! I'm fresh our of belts, and the old one is stretch beyond use. | ||
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Post# 251237 , Reply# 32 9/24/2013 at 18:27 (3,859 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA) |
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Hoover belts do well, but...
I would advise checking them. Sometimes we think the machine is working very well, but upon reinstalling a fresh belt, you'll notice a big difference. Grooming can get inconsistent with older belts. Also sometimes upon checking you'll find cracking or flaking on the belts and you know it's going to break soon.
I don't think upright belts last as long as canisters either. My grandmom had a navy blue Hoover Elite Supreme hard case bagged upright for several years until she sold her house and left the vacuum to the new owners. The belt rarely broke but it's good to go in about every 6 months or so and check things over. My Hoover power nozzle belts never break, and the torque of the motor is powerful but I check and replace them as needed. Usually about once a year. Longer than I'd think they'd go, but the Hoover power head belts start out quite small so it takes a while for them to stretch significantly enough to lose tension. Great cleaners. I've had any problems with my Hoover power heads and most of mine have been used semi-commercially, cleaning customers houses of mine on occasion. | ||
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