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Post# 225670 , Reply# 1   3/30/2013 at 08:46 (4,037 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 225679 , Reply# 2   3/30/2013 at 09:53 (4,037 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)   |   | |
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We have them in the UK. They go for about £40 on eBay here! |
Post# 225687 , Reply# 3   3/30/2013 at 11:04 (4,037 days old) by compamac ()   |   | |
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I didnt know that the UK has these too. I like this one also becuase it is an older model. The newer models of this unit are louder and heavier. |
Post# 225689 , Reply# 4   3/30/2013 at 11:14 (4,037 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)   |   | |
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We have them in black |
Post# 225690 , Reply# 5   3/30/2013 at 11:24 (4,037 days old) by compamac ()   |   | |
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I seem to like the white ones better than the black ones but I dont know why. Do you also have Oreck XL uprights in the UK too? I would think so |
Post# 225699 , Reply# 6   3/30/2013 at 13:19 (4,037 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 225794 , Reply# 9   3/31/2013 at 08:54 (4,036 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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We dont have that one in the UK. As I said previously we only have older models in the UK - see link to the UK website. We have an XL10 priced at £359-99; spend around £70 to £80 more and you can buy yourself a Miele S4 Hybrid!
To be honest I don't think the Magnesium is at all ugly - not when you consider that a lot of other Chinese made appliances for the vacuum cleaner market doesn't have half the style Oreck have added here. Of course, one's opinion of what is ugly and what is not is very much dependent on the individual. Though not in any way affecting the performance and despite my name plate on here, I didn't ever consider Sebo's Felix Fun to be in any way good looking; the bright orange colour put me off in an instant - see stock photo - even the orange here clashes badly with light brown wood in a home! CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK |
Post# 225811 , Reply# 10   3/31/2013 at 10:39 (4,036 days old) by compamac ()   |   | |
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Well when you do get the Oreck Magnesium you will know how bad of a machine it really is. It is terrible with deep cleaning. I would rather have a Miele S4 than this Oreck. |
Post# 225825 , Reply# 11   3/31/2013 at 13:40 (4,036 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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The Maggy can wait - Im interested in Oreck's newer bagless upright - see thread
(www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...) The Oreck Touch |
Post# 225837 , Reply# 12   3/31/2013 at 14:31 (4,036 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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Post# 225862 , Reply# 14   3/31/2013 at 19:44 (4,036 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I think its a sign of the times - after all Hoover originally made bagged vacuums, and soon they began bag-less ones too. It could well have a small dust cup so that it doesn't damage the bagged upright sales. That would make sense. As they say in this business though, don't knock it until you've tried it. |
Post# 225864 , Reply# 15   3/31/2013 at 20:30 (4,036 days old) by compamac ()   |   | |
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They ALWAYS advertised bagged being better though. Hoover never really did that until the had bag less technology. Oreck was wide open to bagless but they decided to stick with bagged. |
Post# 225868 , Reply# 16   3/31/2013 at 21:07 (4,036 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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Post# 225898 , Reply# 17   4/1/2013 at 05:49 (4,035 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I agree with you but Oreck are a small company next to the likes of Miele and the rest of the Germans, even other European brands like Philips who make great vacuums (but are seldom available to buy in the UK) offer more - however everyone apart from the premium 2; Sebo and Miele are sticking to bags - Bosch produce bagless vacuums, but they're not very good IMHO.
The hardest task Oreck will face will be trying to convince their loyal fans that their bagless vacuum is better. They may try a different tactic. |
Post# 225933 , Reply# 20   4/1/2013 at 11:10 (4,035 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I've commented before on Oreck XL vacs. I wish I could like them and had my parents not had one, I'd probably have bought an XL7 by now. My parents had a light grey XL with a black bumper. Bought brand new in the 1990s and had it for a couple of years but they couldn't stand the noise or the fact as you say it has a narrow dust channel up the back of the spine. The other problem we had was that our XL was particularly hungry for drive belts though I did like the side door slide out access for changing one around and the hidey bit on the sole plate. What I didn't appreciate was that our older model had a bag snap on fixing - not the slider holder that current ones have - so the bag could eventually come off no matter how many times I ensured the bag tongue when over the plastic bit on the oval dust channel.
The other downside is that I have never appreciated the fact that the Oreck never cleans flat to the floor. Oh it can fall to the floor, but the brush roll doesn't actually sit flat like a Sebo X1 and you can't wheel the XL away after use, it always has to be carried. I notice that the XL10 and XL7 have a partition at the back that allows you to wheel those vacs away after use.
The only things I like about the Oreck XL is the long 10 metre cord length and the brush rolls - they seem to groom carpets extremely well - but having to replace the side brushes every couple of years is a bit of a nuisance and the UK market/Oreck UK at that time charged a high cost for the dust bags, with the Celoc white ones being quite hard to buy as they were constantly out of stock. |
Post# 225934 , Reply# 21   4/1/2013 at 11:14 (4,035 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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I think Oreck is pretty popular in the US. They sell them in infomercials, at "Oreck Clean" stores, and now I've even seen some in Targets (a "superstore" like Walmart and K Mart). I've also seen the Oreck steam mops in Walmart. People typically seem to think that they are the best vacuums for some reasons. I personally don't like them. I've had two uprights. One was very loud and needed a new fan, and the other was just not a very good cleaner and was a bit noisy. My local vacuum store told me about how bad vacuums they are, because of how small the fans in them are. The brushroll is what really cleans. I do kind of like their bag system, how it automatically closes.
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Post# 225938 , Reply# 22   4/1/2013 at 11:23 (4,035 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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Post# 225960 , Reply# 23   4/1/2013 at 13:11 (4,035 days old) by compamac ()   |   | |
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The Oreck Touch just I dont see being worth it. Very cheap design! Small bagless capacity. I heard the stretch hoses were known to tear |
Post# 225969 , Reply# 24   4/1/2013 at 14:33 (4,035 days old) by compamac ()   |   | |
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I emailed Oreck, last night I forgot to mention. They said that they make bagless vacuums to bring in a bigger amount of sales. But if they only have 2 models sold in stores where are the sales then |
Post# 225980 , Reply# 25   4/1/2013 at 15:14 (4,035 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 226005 , Reply# 28   4/1/2013 at 18:03 (4,035 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 226036 , Reply# 30   4/1/2013 at 21:12 (4,035 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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The Oreck Touch does seem very cheap. I saw one video of it, and it was very high pitched and noisy, sort of like a Euro Pro vacuum.
I think that they would make many more sales if they sell more machines in more stores. And I do know that they (the bagged uprights) are pretty good at cleaning surface dirt, but they really don't deep clean well at all. I wonder if the Oreck Touch would deep clean any better... |
Post# 226066 , Reply# 31   4/2/2013 at 06:04 (4,034 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well I can't speak for the rivals because the UK don't have any; we did have a Hometek Chinese built upright that was similar to the Oreck. It hung around for a few years, a few members on here bought one as well as me - they're okay but they attracted an older crowd of people and seemed to do quite well even for the lack of dust bags since the bags were of largish capacity.
Only in the last couple of years Vax have a commercial upright, the VCU-02 - there's a separate thread about that one on here I'm sure. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK This post was last edited 04/02/2013 at 06:21 |
Post# 226107 , Reply# 33   4/2/2013 at 13:59 (4,034 days old) by compamac ()   |   | |
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Just went to my local Vac Shop. They sell the model I have for $129.99!!! Isnt that a little expensive |
Post# 226180 , Reply# 34   4/2/2013 at 22:08 (4,033 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Thing is, as I've noted in the other post regarding the Swift upright, countries have different exchange rates etc and a lot of sellers in the UK are over pricing these vacuums for a lot more profit -sometimes charging astronomical prices for products that shouldn't be that expensive to buy. Buyers are none the wiser unless they check comparing websites, but even then not all sites are included to get the best deal.
Thus one shouldn't really compare a vacuum cleaner going by price alone. |
Post# 226256 , Reply# 35   4/3/2013 at 11:19 (4,033 days old) by compamac ()   |   | |
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Well I was just thinking about price but its ok. I do notice though that this thread has gotten a lot of replies! Thank you for all of them |
Post# 226503 , Reply# 37   4/4/2013 at 12:36 (4,032 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)   |   | |
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The Versavac seems really odd. I have a Shark Vac Then Steam, and on that the vacuum is only for hard floors. At first I was't sure if the Versavac could be used on carpeting, but I saw a video of it and now I know it can be used on carpet. I don't think it would clean carpets very well, it seems like something that someone who wants to save time and space would buy and find useful. |