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Post# 21493   10/2/2007 at 19:27 (6,021 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Not a bad $10 day at St. Vinnies and the Restore
Firstly a very nice condition Royal Prince and I got an extra bag for it that looks to be unused. I didn't even notice till I got it home that it's the 75th Anniversary model cause it sez so on the side. That should put the value up into the thousands


Post# 21494 , Reply# 1   10/2/2007 at 19:30 (6,021 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

And this 1958 Canadian Electrolux Z88. I needed the attachments more than the vac for my other one which is in much better condition. This one has a replacement hose but in good condition and a replacement cord, both should be red.
Still in all it runs very well and is ever soooo quiet.


Post# 21495 , Reply# 2   10/2/2007 at 19:51 (6,021 days old) by charles~richard ()        

ohhhhhhhhh, the Z88 is a real honey! Whisper-quiet as you say but very powerful. One of them won best straight-suction canister cleaner one year at a VCCC convention "suck-off."

Royal is nice too, those are such durable hand vacs. Too bad they're now made of hideous red plastic. I believe the "spare" bag is correct for this model; the one on it is, I think, rather older. This machine is great for cleaning out your car.



Post# 21496 , Reply# 3   10/2/2007 at 20:40 (6,021 days old) by lux1521 ()        

In all of my collecting of Royal handvacs I have yet to get that one. I can tell you that the bag that is on it is original. The red handle is what makes it interesting and what makes me think that the bag is correct. I belive that it is a canadian version. You have a US replacement bag.

I have never seen the red handle version with a 75th anniversary sticker though. My 75th anniversary, along with every other one I have seen are always all blue. The metal nozzle plug is also different.

Is that replacement bag dark blue? I've been looking for the dark blue hand vac for years. What ever you do don't wash it! It won't be blue for very long.


Post# 21497 , Reply# 4   10/2/2007 at 21:05 (6,021 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

It is the Canadian version. I also have another one boxed away somewhere with the red handle and dark blue bag. I think everyone I've ever seen has had a red handle

Post# 21499 , Reply# 5   10/2/2007 at 23:03 (6,021 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Holy leapin' cows, Pete...

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Two stunning vacs! That's a Version One 88, 1957-63 - judgeing by the Electrolux lettering below the midline. Version 2, 1963-67 has the lettering above on the rear haunches and adds a white rubber bumper all around. I thimk...

I must get over to Sarnia/Port Huron so's you can take us thrifting. Are these places open Sundays or Mondays? Oh well, only 5 more weeks and I'm on vacationtime.

I have a free extra canadian Lux Red woven hose in great cosmetic shape for display if ya don't mind it leaks somewhat.

The red Lux88 is top of my want list for the 80 series to fill that lonely gap between the 86 & 89. I've gradually acquired all the red tools & telescopic wand and a red hose that surprisingly doesn't leak...waiting for the lucky day my eyes spy a lonesome red 88. And I'm sure there must be a matching red PN1 out there, too.

Congrats on your finds.

Dave


Post# 21510 , Reply# 6   10/3/2007 at 03:08 (6,021 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
My late 60's lux 89

Here is a pic of my canadian eluxomatic 89. I believe this is a late 60's model. I have an aftermarket hose on it. I did manifest then matching power head and wands for the vac bought the vac from my local vac shop, for 50 bucks. It has very strong suction and is very quiet!! I am looking for the matching green attatchments, (floor brush, crevice tool, brush and upholstery tool). The powerhead is also very qiuet and works like a hot damn. I will be sure to bring this vac to the 2008 convention.This is one of my favourite luxes. My aunt had this exact model and as a chid when I would visit her house I would get soooo excited when she would pull out the lux 89 and say that it is time to clean.. Wow, what great memories .
Is there anyone eles in vacuumland who has memories about a lux 89?? If so,, please do share.

Cheers,
Brad.


Post# 21514 , Reply# 7   10/3/2007 at 04:38 (6,021 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

I have an 89 as well with the original non power hose and a few attachments, no power nozzle though.

Dave I'll keep this 88 with your name on it as I only wanted the attachments. I don't think the 88 was ever available with a power nozzle. This one has no power port on the machine itself.


Post# 21515 , Reply# 8   10/3/2007 at 06:01 (6,021 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Brad, I like that shade of metallic green on your Electrolux. Pete, I notice the front on your machine is laid out differently than the American models. That is a really good looking design.

Post# 21516 , Reply# 9   10/3/2007 at 07:52 (6,021 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Alan, Canadian Luxs have always differed from the American models. Without knowing any of the details, its obvious the Z30 & Z50 series shapes derive from the European models. The 80 series debuted in 1957 with the wrapper cavity turned horzontal, as the shape suggests. Uses the exact same self-sealing bag. We never got an ejection system like the LX but inside the door are the same pneumatic components & adjustment dial to stop the motor & pop the door.

Biggest difference is the hose connector mechanism and the connector diameter. An American hose is too large to fit Canadian , while a Canadian hose will fit American loosely. American uses two press latches while Canadian uses a sprung slipring with 6 ball bearing engaging inside a groove. Meaning both hoses are free to rotate in their couplings.
Our AP series was the first Plastic Canadian Lux equivalent to the US 1205 and even then we got different body styling on the same chassis...Sorta like we got Buicks and you got Oldsmobiles. :-)

Oh, how well I remember Mom's Red Lux. She would tow me up & down the long central wood hallway and over the livingroom carpets. Just like we would sing all her favorite songs from the 40's & 50's while doing the dishes we would sing 'at the top of our lungs' while vacuuming. She was a modern gal with 2 young scamps and a 3rd on the way, just moved to the suburbs and Red was her favorite color. Red headed Aunt Carol got a blue Constellation and that just kept me enthralled. In 1967 (Canada's Centennial year) when I was 14 Mom traded up to a green Z89 but my vac riding days were behind me by then. I don't recall she got the Power Nozzle. 'Round about 1980 Dad was using it as his workshop basement vac (Mom had gone back to a Filter Queen) with replacement white hose when he got a spankin' new Shop-Vac, and that's when I rescued it in the nick of time from the garage trash heap on a chance weekend visit. The matching pigtail power hose was long gone & replaced with a non power generic but the collapsing power wand is intact. I found the PN1 in a Salvation Army store a few years back. The rubber motor mount ring had torn away so I replaced that and it sucks strong & quiet like new. Now on the alert to her son's additional peculiarities, Mom gave me the Filter Queen in the 90s when she went to Sears and got an easier to tow around Kenmore canister. Now that she's a feisty widow in a huge 3 bedroom apartment she's got a central vac setup.

Just this past week I got the green non-electric hose with trigger switch nozzle and the green clip on power cord gifted from Doug Smith in Saskatoon...cause I won the ZB55 and tweed ZB57 he had up on eBay. And that's why I have an extra excellent red woven hose for your 88, Pete.

I'll keep my eyes open for green tools for you and hopefully in November I'll drop off the hose to you on my way back from Butler PA and North Canton...

Dave


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Post# 21518 , Reply# 10   10/3/2007 at 08:57 (6,021 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Mom's Z89 now. Together at last!

Post# 21519 , Reply# 11   10/3/2007 at 09:06 (6,021 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
The dusting brush is generic

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Every summer while we kids & Mom stayed at the Port Stanley cottage Dad would embark on a total reconstruction makeover of some room in the house and he always had some stunt dreamed up to prepare Mom for her surprise in advance. One year on the way home Dad handed Mom a wrapped package with the Shag Rug attachment in it and she was mighty perplexed til we got home. The basement recroom was wall to wall cream shag. I hated that carpet...always loosing important Girder & Panel pieces in it. Not to mention all the screws & bolts & stuff from the Mecanno set or what appliance I'd be taking apart. I'd fire up the Lionel electromagnet and run it through the pile to reclaim metal bits. Ahh, good times, eh?

Post# 21521 , Reply# 12   10/3/2007 at 09:40 (6,021 days old) by ian88 ()        

I find the combination of 60s and 70s styles (tool and body for instance) very interesting, aeolean..you can really tell it's a stepping stone between eras :)

Post# 21523 , Reply# 13   10/3/2007 at 12:09 (6,021 days old) by charles~richard ()        

The last of the red Z88 did have a power nozzle - you lift up a little tab in the front part of the handle to connect the power cord from the hose - it had the same wrap-around cord as the early American G and L.

There was a beautiful 88 on eBay a few years back - mint and I mean MINT condition, power nozzle, original hose, and a fabulous high-styled two-tone black and white leatherette ottoman to store it in. Don't know who the lucky winner was, but it warn't MEEEE. I recall that interestingly enough it was located in the US and not Canada.



Post# 21524 , Reply# 14   10/3/2007 at 14:27 (6,020 days old) by charles~richard ()        

We discussed Canadian Electrouxes earlier - see link.



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Post# 21525 , Reply# 15   10/3/2007 at 14:29 (6,020 days old) by charles~richard ()        

And also here - this thread veers around a bit, but there are some good photos of Canadian Luxes & accessories.



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Post# 21526 , Reply# 16   10/3/2007 at 16:06 (6,020 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Thanks for the stories and links, and trips back into time in the shag thread!

Post# 21532 , Reply# 17   10/3/2007 at 18:44 (6,020 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

DAve you have me confused.. aren't you looking for a red z88? You can have this one I just found if you want since you have a hose for it. This latest one, nor my other red one have the little handle tab for plugging in a p/n.. My green 89 does though

Post# 21535 , Reply# 18   10/3/2007 at 20:56 (6,020 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Right Pete, re-reading my posts I confused myself. Just got all over exhuberant recalling the Lux & Mom stories. Now with 3 red Canadian hoses hanging on the door waiting for red vacs to miraculously manifest the one I got this week is airtight, which added to the enthusiasm.

1. You have a red hose already for your other red one. This latest 88 gives you the tool set for the first one. I misunderstood.
2. Yes, I'd luv to have the red Z88 version one with NO power takeoff 'cause now I have an airtight hose for it and enough extra red tools to compliment it. Please put my name on it and I'll see you as soon as reasonable. I have this Sunday and Monday off but watching the weather carefully as Sunday may be a perfect last boat day before it gets wrapped for winter storage.
3. As Charles pointed out its the later version 2 red 88 that has the power takeoff as well as a white rubber bump strip all around...and that's yet another one all we Canadians should be on the lookout for. LOL
4. Your picture of the thrift store 1958 88 appears to have the back housing for the cordwinder, yes?



Post# 21536 , Reply# 19   10/3/2007 at 21:24 (6,020 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

I have the red hose already, a good one, so now I'm pretty well complete I think with the z88.
The one I'll give you is red all around, just the photo looks dark for some reason. The cord looks to have been replaced since it's cream and not red. but then who knows. Maybe they put some cream cords on some to match the handle and switch?


Post# 21537 , Reply# 20   10/3/2007 at 21:47 (6,020 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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I'm sure when cords needed replacing the Shop guy would simply use new stock in whatever color was current. Finding a red cord would be great since its easy to take the cord retracter apart and replace the cord; I've adjusted all my retracts & Cord-o-matics to perform sharp & snappy. Certainly cream is a better choice than stark white.

Wouldn't it be nice to find a forgotten Canadian stock of vac cords in all sorts of colored supple rubber? I'd have no qualms about buying a crappy vac just to salvage the coloured cords & plugs...

So that 88 does have a cord retracter or I'd be seeing cream cord snaking all over your carpet...


Post# 21538 , Reply# 21   10/3/2007 at 21:59 (6,020 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Here's the backside, it's pretty close but yes not an original, doesn't have that little bulb stopper before the plug, just a disk thing

Post# 21539 , Reply# 22   10/3/2007 at 22:26 (6,020 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The same replacement cord & disc plug on my Z86

Post# 21540 , Reply# 23   10/3/2007 at 22:31 (6,020 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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This one does not have the pneumatic stop & pop components inside the door though there is a funnel shaped blank rubber plug in the hole of the bag compartment rim.

It does have the power plug connector under a handle flap, tho.


Post# 21541 , Reply# 24   10/3/2007 at 22:41 (6,020 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Out back, the lovely red cord funnel and replacement cord with disc plug. If this is a rebuild from several vacs its mighty hard to tell. I'm gonna assume its the entry level model 86. Z86s were available in two versions from 1957 thru 1967, according to Doug Smith's site.

Post# 21544 , Reply# 25   10/4/2007 at 04:20 (6,020 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
back of my lux 89

From what I can see it looks as if the plug and power cord are original on this machine. Is there any way to tell exactly what year this machine is? Can any one help me with finding that info?
Thanks
Brad.


Post# 21545 , Reply# 26   10/4/2007 at 07:52 (6,020 days old) by dial-a-nap (Omaha - the home of the TV Dinner)        

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Beautiful Luxes guys - I had an all-green Canadian Lux I found at a thrift store in Phoenix, AZ, probably from a snow-bird's house. It was a fantastic vacuum and years ago, I could never understand why it looked so different from the U.S. versions. Thanks for the pics and stories!

Post# 21548 , Reply# 27   10/4/2007 at 08:49 (6,020 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

The one pictured above shows the latest patent date of 1958, serial 1085016.
My other one shows patent pending of 1962 and a much higher serial number 24????? hard to read.
The serial number is on the inside edge rim of the actual machine but the patent, mfr's info is all on the inside shiny plateing of the flip down part.


Post# 21559 , Reply# 28   10/4/2007 at 13:58 (6,019 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
Info on my lux 89

Hello Pete.. ON the front of my lux it says ELUX . O. MATIC. The numbers on the inside of the rim of the machine read 0046799....so what do these numbers tell me? The mfr's on the shiny plate says:TO ORDER DUST CONTAINERS WRITE TO; ELECRTOLUX CANADA LIMITED, 2751 TRANS-CANANDA HIGHWAY POINTE CLAIRE, QUEBEC. Then, on the botom of the macine is it stamped: PATENTED 1952,1953,1955,1958,1960,1961,1962,1963 & PATENTS PENDING & 1956,1959 FOR MODEL Z-88. So the big question...How do I tell when this machine was made?
Thanks,
Brad.


Post# 21572 , Reply# 29   10/4/2007 at 16:05 (6,019 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

I'm stumped but at least it's 1963 or later.. Maybe Doug in MJaw knows, I'll email him since I don't think he checks in here often.

Post# 21579 , Reply# 30   10/4/2007 at 22:29 (6,019 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
Electrolux 89 Memories

Hello all. I’m new to this site (just introduced myself in another thread), and I thought I’d share my memories of Electrolux 89 vacuums and the 80 series Electrolux machines in general.

As far as the 89 goes, it was hands down the most popular vacuum of my young days, at least in my little city. A great many relatives, neighbors, and friends had one, not to mention a lot of businesses, stores, and hospitals. These included all the variations; some with green electric hose, some with green standard hose and wrap-around cord, some with the PN III, some with PN IV, and some with the green telescopic wand and some with the newer style sheath and steel wand. Every time I saw one I’d stand there staring like an awe-struck schoolboy, appreciating that beautiful green color and the solid looking appearance. Of course, when I got to actually use one, I was in heaven. That smooth, super-quiet sound just enthralled me.

However, my actual obsession dates from my very young days, when my grandparents owned two beautiful 86 machines. It pains me now to think they’re gone (along with all the above mentioned machines of friends and relatives), and I didn’t snap them up. Both of them were power nozzle equipped, but one of them only had the standard non-electric red hose and attachments, while the other had the green electric hose, telescopic wand, and PN IV of a model 89. I can still remember being good-naturedly chided for spending too much time playing with those machines (I suspect most of you have had the same experience), and thus began my half-thrilling, half-shamefaced, obsession with vacuum cleaners.

Going back to the 89 for a moment, I wonder if anyone remembers a “scent-filter” that attached to the blower receptacle? A great many people who had 89 machines also had one of these little filters, and the scent is firmly connected in my mind with the 89. Also, I often wonder why the 89 was so much more popular than the 88 and 86, at least in my experience. I rarely saw the latter machines, while the 89 was everywhere. Oddly enough, when I finally found an 88, I found myself liking that beautiful cherry-red color much more than the 89 green, but who can choose between two such lovely machines?

I also ran into a lot of confusion regarding the age of the 86-89 machines. I’ve asked several people who worked with Electrolux/Aerus, and got a different answer every time. One fellow told me (in 2003) that the 89 was over 50 years old! The official model history published by Aerus doesn’t help much either; several of the models are left out entirely. I’d love to see some original documentation on these machines.


Post# 21580 , Reply# 31   10/4/2007 at 23:37 (6,019 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

That's interesting that there were so many of them. I can't imagine there being a lot of selection back then in Nfld other than an Elux salesman and the Eatons catalog especially out of town in the small places so a salesman could probaly have done quite well. My in-laws are all over the place around Clarenville to Bonavista and there's lotsa them, can you imagine one family member a salesman and all those sales LOL. I kid him about it, but it's true, just about everyone knows everyone and/or are somehow related by blood or marriage it seems.
Now I have to call him to see what vac lurks in his dads house LOL but he won't have a clue


Post# 21581 , Reply# 32   10/4/2007 at 23:42 (6,019 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Hello sireluxomatic, and welcome! I am in the U.S. but appreciate and admire Canadian Electroluxes very much and have five of them - a Canadian XII, then ZB30, ZB54, ZB55, then a Z89. I used to have a Z88 but gave it away to someone who was dying to have it.

I also have the Canadian versions of the "Junior Polisher" and the early TurboTool.



Post# 21584 , Reply# 33   10/5/2007 at 00:48 (6,019 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

Charles Richard:

Many thanks for your welcome. I believe your site was my first sight of the many beautiful American Electrolux machines. I particularly like the looks of the G in all its variations. There was a decent looking turquoise G on Ebay recently, but the shipping price was a bit of a heart breaker, not to mention a nice tan G (ditto on the shipping price).

Pete:

It does seem that Newfoundlanders have that kind of close connection. I can't speak for other places, but in St. John's, in my younger days, I can remember no less than 5 Electrolux branch/sales offices. Today, there's approximately 1 Aerus outlet...a sad reminder of how times have changed. I happened to be there in the summer buying some bags, and saw an 89 stuck in a corner behind all the Guardians and other "new-fangled" machines. The 89 outshone them all, in my opinion.


Post# 21589 , Reply# 34   10/5/2007 at 07:18 (6,019 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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It seems like motels/hotels used the lux 88, 89 quite frequently also. I can remember as a kid staying at many hotels and seeing them in the hallway. I was always trying to get a closer look at them.

Gary


Post# 21592 , Reply# 35   10/5/2007 at 08:36 (6,019 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
Hose Abuse Reminder and Question

Hi Gary. Your point about motels and hotels using the 80 series machines reminds me of a time I was in a hotel watching a janitor vacuuming the room with an Ambassador. The power nozzle kept cutting out, and I could see why after I saw the vacuum sitting in the hallway. It had one of those too short white/blue patterned hoses, and the janitor had stored it with the power nozzle standing up on its top end and the canister flat on the floor. No wonder the power nozzle was cutting out...that hose was bent out of shape. Vacuum abuse distresses me.

By the way, have you or anyone else seen an 89 with a little green clip near the bag door, presumably for clipping on an attachment? Mine has it, and yet its the first one I've ever seen. The color matches the dark green of the handle and switch, so it seems to be a genuine "product".


Post# 21594 , Reply# 36   10/5/2007 at 09:01 (6,019 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Bob, I always assumed that that clip is to hold the clip-on exterior power cord attractively down by the side of the canister. My cord is certainly long enough that I can spiral it snugly around the hose and the clip keeps the slack from looping out.
On the other hand, I don't have a pigtail hose to know if that short piece of cord has the length to comfortably go through that clip on its way up to the handle socket. The clip is simply a force fit under the trim strip and not difficult to pull straight out.
Which type hose was the clip provided for? My vote is for the add on wrap around exterior power cord.
Does anyone have a manual that includes a section on the power nozzle connection innstructions? Mine doesn't even show the optional power nozzle and shows a non powered hose with no pigtail. The only mention is on the machine illustration indicating the location of 'recepticle for power nozzle cord', leading me to think the power nozzle came with its own manual?


Post# 21595 , Reply# 37   10/5/2007 at 09:13 (6,019 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

Dave:

I never even thought of that as a cord clip. Sadly, I'm many thousands of miles distant from the vacuum, so I can't check to see if the pigtail cord will fit into the clip. I did try to clip the attachments on, but they fit only loosely. I bet it is a clip for the wrap-around cord.


Post# 21597 , Reply# 38   10/5/2007 at 11:02 (6,019 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Bob/Dave,

My 89 does have that clip also and I thought it was for the pigtail cord also although I don't use it. I just wrap the pigtail cord around the hose once and then plug it into the receptacle on the handle. I find that keeps the pigtail tight enough so that it does not get in the way. I have the instruction manual but I can't remember if it shows the hose or not - I will have to check it out tonight.

Gary



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